Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I have two cycles behind me and both have ended the same way, I made great gains during the cycle with minimal sides, the Towards the end of PCT I crash, breakout like mad, lose almost all I gained and have no drive or ambition not to mention no libido. I'm thinking about going on permantly, running a low dose of 200-250 wk Test, and cycling heavy two times a year. Anyone on here always on?
Those who never come off.....
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jokerswild said:
I will bump this up for you. Ulter never comes off. Maybe he will chime in for you.
bump for answers....
Its All Genetics
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well loosing all ur gains is gunna happen if u dont plan ur pct and dont keep cals high after cycle, also u need to lower training volume after or ur gunna overtrain.
what has ur pct looked like?
what has ur pct looked like?
hankes64
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This is know as Hormone Replacement Therapy. They use Test cyp at anywhere from 200mg-400mg a week depending on how bad you need it, oh did I mention its legal through a prescription? I advise going to see an HRT specialist. They could also prescribe somatropin GH if you are in need also. If I were I would not "prescribe" myself any HRT program, too many factors in that. It also sounds like your PCT may be not up to snuff, including diet and training.
hankes64 said:
I'm no expert but I have never heard of ayone on HRT getting 400mg Test wk. As far as my PCT, I have ran HCG at 1500 iu wk the last month of my cycles then followed with the standard clomid/nolvadex plan for six weeks........
Prizz
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I can remember when many guys were doing just what you asked about.... There was this Fad at the time to keep a steady dose of Test at all times as a base, and then just cycle other drugs on top of it from time to time..... I did this for about 1.5yrs.... Kept a base dose of 400mg of Test per week, and would cycle other drugs on top of it from time to time..... Gains did keep coming, but I now think that coming off totally between cycles is a better option.... Esp since there are drugs like IGF to use between cycles..... Biggest reason for coming off IMO would be to let receptors clear out, allowing the next cycle to be effective..... Not to mention keeping a healthy Axis....
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hankes64
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jokerswild said:
This is why I said depending on how bad you need it, in other words depends on the patient and where his levels are. Also, for PCT you need to run it as long as your cycles are. General Rule of thumb being if you have a cycle thats 12 weeks long then your PCT should be 12 weeks long.
hammercurls
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im gonna give igf a shot post cycle
hammercurls
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i cant decide whether to use 20 or 30 mcg. my instict tell me keep it at 20
hankes64
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http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=422102hammercurls said:
Has injection info and doses
Ulter said:
How often do you have bloodwork done, what are your dosages, do you run HCG year round, etc......
cubuff27
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35 was my cutt off date for staying on. 2 kids and 20 years of training later I have earned it. My priorities changed from when I was 25. Now that I am set financially and family wise I can kind of shift focus to myself for a few years. Plus wait till my daughters boyfriends come to pick her up for a date and I show up at the door...I want them to sh!t their pants and remember the site of me when they try anything with my little girl!
Bloodwork, Echo Stress and physical are annually.jokerswild said:
I used to get bloodwork done every other month but it was always the same.
My regular dosing is 400mg/test and 300mg/deca. That goes up a little in the summer by 100mg of each. Every so often I will add tren/eq depending on my goals. I have used T3 in the past to cut but now with Sesamax I don't think I'll do that anymore. I only use HCG a few times a years and that's only if I am going to be naked in public. Just a personal thing.
taoiron
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cubuff27 said:
That’s what I am talking about brotha!!
I tell people that is why I train. I still have a few years before they start dating (6 n 9) so I should be sitting around 225-230 by the time they start bringing boys around.
I think I will have them bring them to the gym to meet me. I would have to time it right… About half way into my workout so I am all pumped up and angry as hell!
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Ulter said:Bloodwork, Echo Stress and physical are annually.
I used to get bloodwork done every other month but it was always the same.
My regular dosing is 400mg/test and 300mg/deca. That goes up a little in the summer by 100mg of each. Every so often I will add tren/eq depending on my goals. I have used T3 in the past to cut but now with Sesamax I don't think I'll do that anymore. I only use HCG a few times a years and that's only if I am going to be naked in public. Just a personal thing.
How long have you been running like this? Are you on any meds for BP or cholesterol? Ever had a blood test come back bad?
A little over 5 years. Right now I am using Sesamax and Policosanol for chol. I think chol levels are over-rated as a predictor of CAD. Most of the research on it is sponsored by the companies that sell statin drugs. One of the things they never take into account is the lifestyle of the subjects in the tests. They look at the chol levels exclusively and never consider that these people eat like shit and never exercise and are genetically predisposed to heart disease. I think that has more to do with CAD frequency than the chol does.jokerswild said:
I never come off neither. Just got to keep up with the blood work and eat right.
anal itch said:
250mgs Test per week.
Destroyer1986*
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My problem with this at such a young age is becoming sterile, I do intend on having kids. It just seems that staying on eliminates any chance of having children.
Destroyer1986* said:
No need to reproduce my friend. This world isn't good enough for your children.
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