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Thinking about startin gear.. too young??

atc5011

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im 20 yrs old 197 pounds.. more ripped than anything else.. work out religiously 5 days a week.. one muscle group a day.. high high high calorie diet to gain/maintain my weight. very healthy diet.. ive gained about 15 pounds in the last months just with diet and workin hard.. was thinkin bout 500mg sust - 400mg deca per week for 10 weeks... worth it or no..??
 
atc5011 said:
im 20 yrs old 197 pounds.. more ripped than anything else.. work out religiously 5 days a week.. one muscle group a day.. high high high calorie diet to gain/maintain my weight. very healthy diet.. ive gained about 15 pounds in the last months just with diet and workin hard.. was thinkin bout 500mg sust - 400mg deca per week for 10 weeks... worth it or no..??

In my opinion,yes too young.at age 20 your body is still flooded with natural testosterone,why introduce synthetic test when you can make great gains naturally?how long have you been weight training in general?most likely you haven't gotten the muscle maturity that you need before you even attempt gear.give it 2 more years of hard training,great diet and plenty of rest.learn about proper steroid profiles and cycles,ai's and serms and pct.....then and only then can you make an educated decision.

best of luck to you bro :)
 
atc5011 said:
im 20 yrs old 197 pounds.. more ripped than anything else.. work out religiously 5 days a week.. one muscle group a day.. high high high calorie diet to gain/maintain my weight. very healthy diet.. ive gained about 15 pounds in the last months just with diet and workin hard.. was thinkin bout 500mg sust - 400mg deca per week for 10 weeks... worth it or no..??

too young imo.

how tall r u?
 
hyp1 said:
In my opinion,yes too young.at age 20 your body is still flooded with natural testosterone,why introduce synthetic test when you can make great gains naturally?how long have you been weight training in general?most likely you haven't gotten the muscle maturity that you need before you even attempt gear.give it 2 more years of hard training,great diet and plenty of rest.learn about proper steroid profiles and cycles,ai's and serms and pct.....then and only then can you make an educated decision.

best of luck to you bro :)

agreed

15 pounds in the last months, nothing to be ashamed of, keep training natty bro and see how many more pounds you can put on in the next few months
 
Keep doing what your doing, If you gained 15lbs naturally then you can still grow. I suggest to anyone to max out their natural potential before even considering steroids.
 
atc5011 said:
im 20 yrs old 197 pounds.. more ripped than anything else.. work out religiously 5 days a week.. one muscle group a day.. high high high calorie diet to gain/maintain my weight. very healthy diet.. ive gained about 15 pounds in the last months just with diet and workin hard.. was thinkin bout 500mg sust - 400mg deca per week for 10 weeks... worth it or no..??


Bro!! You made 15 lbs of gains good natty keepable gains in the last few months. That is fucking awesome!!!!! Keep it going bro. Dont juice!!! You have a shit load of natty test. Take advantage of it bro.
 
don't use gear--eat like a horse and keep training that way you are and you will become a monster naturally in the next few years.
 
Good job dude those are great stats for 20. If you can make gains like that in just a few months, why use gear? Get a few more years under your belt and do some research for when you're ready. Very good job, stay off the sauce for now :)
 
druncanwaria said:
man if i was on test at 20 i would of fucked ANYTHING!!!

Oh the memories...but to OP as has been said it is definitely not worth it and the gains you can make now naturally are going to be much easier to hold onto. Keep at it for another year or two and then look into a cycle. You will be glad you did!
 
eddymerckx said:
db who did you piss off?
everyone. there has been at least 2 times this week i almost bombed him for being a dick in his responses. i was being nice and letting them pass.

i am now going to give a 110% bad karma hit of almost 400 that will bring thatg 950 down some :).

Edit: shoot i guess i have hit him already recently and cant :(.
 
thanks for the responses so fast.. btw i am 5'11'' for the person who asked earlier.. it just feels like i am stalled out.. flat lined.. ill just suck it up.. train lot harder.. and keep eating.. thanks everyone
 
atc5011 said:
thanks for the responses so fast.. btw i am 5'11'' for the person who asked earlier.. it just feels like i am stalled out.. flat lined.. ill just suck it up.. train lot harder.. and keep eating.. thanks everyone

Congrats on your gains.

What I would suggest is that you learn to train smarter rather than harder.

I think one of the biggest mistakes that newbies make is over-training.

Muscle doesn't grow when you are training, it grows when you are resting/recovering.

If you are stalled, I would suggest dropping down to a three or four day a week split (take more rest days between training sessions) for a couple of months and see how you get on.

You also need to change how you train, often called periodisation or contrast training.

Most people have a mix of slow and fast twitch muscle, and they respond differently to different types of weight training, so mixing/chopping and swapping between:

low reps, heavy weight
high reps/volume training
super-setting
drop-sets
pre-exhausting the muscle

can also stimulate new gains.
 
Tatyana said:
Congrats on your gains.

What I would suggest is that you learn to train smarter rather than harder.

I think one of the biggest mistakes that newbies make is over-training.

Muscle doesn't grow when you are training, it grows when you are resting/recovering.

If you are stalled, I would suggest dropping down to a three or four day a week split (take more rest days between training sessions) for a couple of months and see how you get on.

You also need to change how you train, often called periodisation or contrast training.

Most people have a mix of slow and fast twitch muscle, and they respond differently to different types of weight training, so mixing/chopping and swapping between:

low reps, heavy weight
high reps/volume training
super-setting
drop-sets
pre-exhausting the muscle

can also stimulate new gains.

Yes!!! "Smarter">"Harder"
 
atc5011 said:
thanks for the responses so fast.. btw i am 5'11'' for the person who asked earlier.. it just feels like i am stalled out.. flat lined.. ill just suck it up.. train lot harder.. and keep eating.. thanks everyone

NO. TOO YOUNG.

you still have a year or two of height left to attain.

doing steroids will prematurely fuse your growth plates robbing you of whatever height was yet to occur before natural fusing.

some late bloomers continue to grow to 22 or 23.

--

better to take 7-10 days off (horrors!) and then hit the weights with new intensity in order to break tru the plateau. trust me on that one. Change your routine, add some intensity techniques (negatives, x-reps, drop sets, etc).

visit the training board, the nutrition boards read all you can to fine tune your plan and you'll continue to make great natural gains. your hormone levels and recovery ability are at a stage where you really dont need juice to progress .
 
Mavafanculo said:
NO. TOO YOUNG.

you still have a year or two of height left to attain.

doing steroids will prematurely fuse your growth plates robbing you of whatever height was yet to occur before natural fusing.

some late bloomers continue to grow to 22 or 23.

--

better to take 7-10 days off (horrors!) and then hit the weights with new intensity in order to break tru the plateau. trust me on that one. Change your routine, add some intensity techniques (negatives, x-reps, drop sets, etc).

visit the training board, the nutrition boards read all you can to fine tune your plan and you'll continue to make great natural gains. your hormone levels and recovery ability are at a stage where you really dont need juice to progress .


Yes, that works really well too.

I think taking off minimum two weeks every year is essential.
 
Tatyana said:
Congrats on your gains.

What I would suggest is that you learn to train smarter rather than harder.

I think one of the biggest mistakes that newbies make is over-training.

Muscle doesn't grow when you are training, it grows when you are resting/recovering.

If you are stalled, I would suggest dropping down to a three or four day a week split (take more rest days between training sessions) for a couple of months and see how you get on.

You also need to change how you train, often called periodisation or contrast training.

Most people have a mix of slow and fast twitch muscle, and they respond differently to different types of weight training, so mixing/chopping and swapping between:

low reps, heavy weight
high reps/volume training
super-setting
drop-sets
pre-exhausting the muscle

can also stimulate new gains.

and to a lesser extent even doing the same exercises a bit differently can help stimulate the muscle more Eg- instead of sitting down for bicep curls try standing up..
 
It isn;t so much being so young, it's the fact that you're still growing without it. Why use a crutch when you don't need one? There's still a lot to learn and some natural alternatives that can give an edge. Do that first. In the end, your results will be much better.
 
If you take AAS before the age of 24 you will seal the growth plates in your knees, even if you think you have stopped growing, its not worth it. Wait till you have at least 7 years of heavy training under your belt and 0r 25 yrs of age. QAlso the fact that you are asking others leads me to beleive that you are not ready,
 
give it afew years bro, it will be well worth it in the long run. I wish I had waited, if I had IDE be twice the size I am now.
 
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