Thinking about hiring a personal trainer

[Hannibal]

controlled shove, that make sense as a visual. ill tinker with it again tonight. gotta go back for cardio and posing, ill do some light presses as a mild pump. hehe.

Spatts uses the compares it to the action of a crow bar...which makes it easier to visualize. The more force that you generate driving yourself into the bench from your feet up....the more force that you can deliver to the barbell. You have to STAY TIGHT though. If you aren't maintaing a tight core...then all the force will be lost. You should be driving from the heels....and drive yourself BACK..not up. You should be tryin to push the bench back....not pushing your hips up off the bench. If you try this and your ass is coming off the bench...move your feet further out in front of you....you should set your legs up as a solid foundation like you were going to squat.

 

[epimetheus]

Try to tear the bar in half too.

 

[Hannibal]

If you want to see the Best Bencher on the Planet....

http://powermagonline.com/videos/george-bench.html

 

[spatts]

Try to tear the bar in half too.

Exactly...this recruits the lats to stabalize.

 

[CytoMel]

Also there is another technique for leg drive while benching but you need a wide competition style bench. If you squeeze your upper thighs around the knee and squeeze them into the bench then yu can get a lot of leg drive too without much from your heels. Its hard to do this well without a good bench-it works well for me

 

[ZZuluZ]

Spatterson, I acknowledge your point. Without knowing the specifics of his impairment it's hard to tell him exactly what exercises are suitable. I agree that flies target the chest and don't use shoulder rotation....I just find them an extremely weak substitute.

As for scientific knowledge, as long as it is acknowledged that it has its place then I'm happy.

Hell, I'm not strong at all as I've just started but I feel confident giving a lot better advice than the vast majority of people a lot stronger than me.

-Zulu

 

[b fold the truth]

Pizza??? Where???

It is all learned on the field...

B True

 

[ZZuluZ]

BTrue, you realize that MANY athletes such as olympic athletes have coaches who are a lot less strong than them, right?

Simple question:

10 randomly selected people. You or Mel Siff can train them. Do you seriously think you would help them achieve their goals better? This isn't to be a prick; I respect your knowledge and experience greatly, but I think there are a great deal of qualified scientific experts out there.

And it's not all learned on the field. There are masterminds behind everyplay. Just look at basketball, the triangle offense, etc, etc.....

I'm acknowledging your point of view and I think it has merit. Maybe we can both see eye to eye here.

-Zulu

 

[makedah]

This thread and the similar "lats vs. pecs" one have led me to wonder exactly what the pecs 'do' anatomically. I'm still working with really light weight, but I'm thinking of eliminating db (bench) presses until I get my bad rotator cuff up to par. I would still do closed-grip presses and other things for shoulder and tris. But I worry what I would be "missing" (other than potential injury) if I skip the bench. I'm a novice to heavy lifting, at this point training for overall strength and increased lean mass, not competition (BB or PL).

Can someone tell me what the pecs do or point me to a Web page that discusses it? I tried searching online, but can't think of good search terms that keep me for looking for the proverbial needle in a haystack.

 

[b fold the truth]

BTrue, you realize that MANY athletes such as olympic athletes have coaches who are a lot less strong than them, right?

Simple question:

10 randomly selected people. You or Mel Siff can train them. Do you seriously think you would help them achieve their goals better? This isn't to be a prick; I respect your knowledge and experience greatly, but I think there are a great deal of qualified scientific experts out there.

And it's not all learned on the field. There are masterminds behind everyplay. Just look at basketball, the triangle offense, etc, etc.....

I'm acknowledging your point of view and I think it has merit. Maybe we can both see eye to eye here.

-Zulu

Mel Siff...hmmm...I know who he is but have never met him. Charles Poloquin...don't think too highly of a lot of his methods. Louie Simmons...have never met him either. The WSB principles change constantly which is another reason why US powerlifters are setting records constantly and US olympic lifters are not.

Mel Siff will never be able to fully teach someone how to bench press 600 pounds till he has done it himself. He does not know what it takes both mentally and physically to do that. Louie Simmons does. I take Louie Simmons's word over Mel Siff's advice any day of the week.

If you use the example that Mel Siff's advice is better than mine...then I will go ahead and pose the question is your advice better than mine also? Show me what you have done. Show me where you have grown and where you have increased your bench press by 400 pounds. Show me how you had to force feed yourself and how you stressed at night about the next day's workout...and still did it. I am waiting...

B True