The Golgi organ doesn't always prevent injury, right, so ...

[SteelWeaver]

Thanks everyone. I recognise that overtraining is more of a chronic, systemic thing. I'm wondering more about acute damage to the muscle fibres - in one session. I mean, does mechanical failure always occur suddenly, without warning? Or is it possible to continue a set and ignore pain signals to the point where the whole muscle just rips? What is the more likely scenario? Fux obviously had no idea his next rep was going to rip his quads out, otherwise he wouldn't have done it, and he was working with a weight he had done before. (btw - did his muscles rip out at the insertions, or did the fibres themselves "snap"?) However, he was close to a contest, so would have been in a state of overtraining to some degree or other.

It seems like most people who tear muscles say the injury occured on a normal set, without warning.

What's the connection between recruitment of motor units and damage to muscle fibres? As the set progresses, more motor units are recruited as myofibrils are damaged and fail? In a typical trainee, CNS failure occurs before pure mechanical failure, right?

Jut wondering about various things ...

 

[The Shadow]

Thanks everyone. I recognise that overtraining is more of a chronic, systemic thing. I'm wondering more about acute damage to the muscle fibres - in one session. I mean, does mechanical failure always occur suddenly, without warning? Or is it possible to continue a set and ignore pain signals to the point where the whole muscle just rips? What is the more likely scenario? Fux obviously had no idea his next rep was going to rip his quads out, otherwise he wouldn't have done it, and he was working with a weight he had done before. (btw - did his muscles rip out at the insertions, or did the fibres themselves "snap"?) However, he was close to a contest, so would have been in a state of overtraining to some degree or other.

It seems like most people who tear muscles say the injury occured on a normal set, without warning.

What's the connection between recruitment of motor units and damage to muscle fibres? As the set progresses, more motor units are recruited as myofibrils are damaged and fail? In a typical trainee, CNS failure occurs before pure mechanical failure, right?

Jut wondering about various things ...

Fux tore insertions I believe.

As a set progresses I myofibrils burn out - this is why strength decreases on each rep....as you become a more advanced lifter - you are able to recruit MORE myfibrils than you did as a beginner - which again makes it easier to overtrain.

In a "typical" trainee - you will stop a set before damage(mech failure) happens