Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Hah, cortisol is essential to good health and gaining LBM if you're not using AAS. Exercise, sex, dieting, and a myriad of things will TRANSIENTLY increase your cortisol levels, and this is a good thing. You don't want to suppress this. Chronically elevated cortisol (due to chronic stress/depression/lifestyle etc...) is a bad thing however, and I seriously doubt some infommercial supplement will help with this. As Sassy69 also pointed out, a lot of the "lower ab thing" that women complain about is mostly genetic and all the supps in the world won't help eliminate it.
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The Shadow
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MS said:
...Andreas Munzer die a few years ago form chemically supressed cortisol levels......I dont think we are talking that type of supression.
ashley2212
Banned
I just need to say something about lower tummy bulges in general...
For some reason, too many women (ESPECIALLY on this board) are obsessed with trying to make the lower part of their abs flat like a board. The thing I think you fail to realize is that to an extent, that's part of a woman's natural build. There are a rare few people with super-fast metabolisms (built like 12 y/o boys) who naturally have stomachs with no curve to them at all... not to mention they have no other curves in their bodies either.
Women have a small, natural curve there because that's where babies grow. When you see pictures of models (fitness or runway) they're usually sucking in or flexing that region, but believe it or not, the majority of them have a natural curve there as well. The difference is - THEY ARE LEAN. Lose the fat, you lose the tummy to reveal the natural curve that you have there.
Case in point: If you do not have upper abs, you need to focus on LOSING FAT... not flattening lower abs.
So can we PLEASE PLEASE stop obsessing over lower abs!!! I feel like there's about 10 threads started every day having to do with "flattening tummies".
Thank you.
For some reason, too many women (ESPECIALLY on this board) are obsessed with trying to make the lower part of their abs flat like a board. The thing I think you fail to realize is that to an extent, that's part of a woman's natural build. There are a rare few people with super-fast metabolisms (built like 12 y/o boys) who naturally have stomachs with no curve to them at all... not to mention they have no other curves in their bodies either.
Women have a small, natural curve there because that's where babies grow. When you see pictures of models (fitness or runway) they're usually sucking in or flexing that region, but believe it or not, the majority of them have a natural curve there as well. The difference is - THEY ARE LEAN. Lose the fat, you lose the tummy to reveal the natural curve that you have there.
Case in point: If you do not have upper abs, you need to focus on LOSING FAT... not flattening lower abs.
So can we PLEASE PLEASE stop obsessing over lower abs!!! I feel like there's about 10 threads started every day having to do with "flattening tummies".
Thank you.
T
The Shadow
Guest
well.....lower abs are aLL about 2 things:
1 - low bf
2- Having muscle there
1 - low bf
2- Having muscle there
J
jenscats5
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ashley2212 said:
Good points......
One thing I've noticed in all the gyms I've gone to, is that heavy, lean, very lean or in the middle -- most women have that "lower ab curve" or slight "belly" thing going on. I've seen very few women not have that & the only ones I have seen are uber-lean women. One in particular taught 3 aerobics classes per night, spent 30 mins on the elliptical per night AND lifted EVERY night..... she was a cyborg, I swear....;
ashley2212 said:
Very very true.
Unless you are looking to train for a Figure/Fitness/BB competition (which requires getting down to EXTREMELY low BF, a level which is NOT maintainable) you will likely have a curve or some fat on your stomach. This is normal, and not to be confused with rolls and rolls of fat on the stomach.
Genetics plays a huge role here.
"genetics play a huge role here" Amen
Depends a LOT on how your hips and lower back are put together. And the biggest "genetic" difference is gender. Men have basically nothing sitting in their lower ab cavity once their testicles drop. Women have all of their reproductive organs sitting there. This means that men can eat a lot of food/fiber or whatever and still not have a bulge whereas a lot of women will show a bulge with even a few veggies siiting in the lower intestine. It is for this reason that I forego all fibrous foods for 4-5 days precomp...basically anything sitting in the lower intestine will be sitting on top of uterus/ovaries thus causing a "bulge". This is NOT to be confused with lower ab fat which you can tell by a simple skinfold test. Even then it is perfectly normal (like it or not) for most women to carry fat in the lower abs/butt/hips/thighs. So as always leanness is essential to see abs, but as a woman you may also have to think about how much fiber you eat if you want to look "flat" for a special occassion (and you may still have to suck things in as well). It is not natural for a woman to have flat abs!
Depends a LOT on how your hips and lower back are put together. And the biggest "genetic" difference is gender. Men have basically nothing sitting in their lower ab cavity once their testicles drop. Women have all of their reproductive organs sitting there. This means that men can eat a lot of food/fiber or whatever and still not have a bulge whereas a lot of women will show a bulge with even a few veggies siiting in the lower intestine. It is for this reason that I forego all fibrous foods for 4-5 days precomp...basically anything sitting in the lower intestine will be sitting on top of uterus/ovaries thus causing a "bulge". This is NOT to be confused with lower ab fat which you can tell by a simple skinfold test. Even then it is perfectly normal (like it or not) for most women to carry fat in the lower abs/butt/hips/thighs. So as always leanness is essential to see abs, but as a woman you may also have to think about how much fiber you eat if you want to look "flat" for a special occassion (and you may still have to suck things in as well). It is not natural for a woman to have flat abs!
MS said:
Just wanted this to be posted again.....so maybe more women will re-read it and realize they are NORMAL if they have a so-called "lower ab pooch"
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GiaDona
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my grandmother always said that " a little tummy is sexy". Okay, so i started all this...and I should have listened to her and I'll listen to you all. 
ashley2212
Banned
MS said:
lol, that's a lot more technical than my "cuz it's where babies grow"
hahahaha
