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The case against bulk cycles

Good infor Dial_tone!

What do your clean bulk cycles look like?

Alot of deca, winny, primo and tren??

Please give us and idea of your clean mass cyles

thanks
 
Quadsweep said:
lots! 23-25 cal per pound.

Quad
Yep..Usually I take in about 4800- 5100 cals per day...Thats about right for my wieght...I fluctuate between 225-230 lbs...
 
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BodyByFinaplix said:
I noticed no one in the "swain brotherhood" from the training board had anything to say here. Probably at the buffet right now, so didn't catch the thread.

Most of them are powerlifters and don't particularly worry about fat. :)

-sk
 
FCBX said:
Good infor Dial_tone!

What do your clean bulk cycles look like?

Alot of deca, winny, primo and tren??

Please give us and idea of your clean mass cyles

thanks

I think he's speaking more of food choices than drugs, I doubt you wanna try and bulk on winny
 
MrMakaveli said:


I think he's speaking more of food choices than drugs, I doubt you wanna try and bulk on winny
You can bulk or cut on any AAS, it's all about your diet...I have known people who bulked on winny and made awseome gains, with a lot less water retention than your traditional Test cycle
 
muscleup said:
You can bulk or cut on any AAS, it's all about your diet...I have known people who bulked on winny and made awseome gains, with a lot less water retention than your traditional Test cycle

After doing "bulking" cycles consisting of dbol, test, deca, etc... in the past, I'm going to try and do a bulking cycle of just anavar at 50mg a day. I cut with it and in my opinion nothing works better. If it goes well, thats it for me. Just two cycles a year consisting of just anavar. One cutting and one bulking.
 
tzan said:


After doing "bulking" cycles consisting of dbol, test, deca, etc... in the past, I'm going to try and do a bulking cycle of just anavar at 50mg a day. I cut with it and in my opinion nothing works better. If it goes well, thats it for me. Just two cycles a year consisting of just anavar. One cutting and one bulking.
Good deal keep us posted on that one...
 
Dial_tone said:
The karma has been rolling in like a train. I wasn't expecting that. I should've said something useful a long time ago. LOL

your advise will work great for most, althoug there will always be those with super high metabolism or who just cant eat, those fucks will have relie on some junk
 
On a slighty different note I think ties into dosages and cycle length.. I'm beginning to think that a longer cycles at moderate dosages are better. Forcing your body to pack on 35 pounds in 8 weeks and keep it is certainly harder than 35 pounds in 16 weeks. Adding an extra 1000 calories a day won't upset your body like adding an extra 2000 calories. Lose a week on a short cycle and it feels wasted, lose it on a long cycle and it's no big deal. When I first started researching the reccomended doses were 500 test, 400 deca, 50 mg dbol. I even got a few for a 1g of test, based on this being my first cycle. My "virgin receptors" would make the best gains , so why not go all out. Any question about lower doses was met with ridicule. Moderate doses worked for me, I hope I'll never need a gram of test.
 
muscleup said:
You can bulk or cut on any AAS, it's all about your diet...I have known people who bulked on winny and made awseome gains, with a lot less water retention than your traditional Test cycle

Yes, you can but you'd get more bang for the buck using EQ/Deca or tren than you would with winny or anavar. Anavar in effective doses is ridiculously expensive so I'd avoid both until they were absolutely necessary.
As far as drugs I didn't start this thread to make recommendations to people. I would just avoid more than one aromatizing drug at a time. A test/dbol/anadrol will put a boatload of weight on, but alot of it will be weight you don't want.
 
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