The case against bulk cycles

[flex2win]

good read...

 

[borg4902]

What about when your done with the bulking cycles and your still like 13%bf then its cool to cut right?

 

[Mini Viper]

good post bro.

 

[Judo Tom]

your advise will work great for most, althoug there will always be those with super high metabolism or who just cant eat, those fucks will have relie on some junk

i have a really high metabolism but eating junk food or fast food is a cop out.. if you need a large amount of cals then you should look into supplimenting with extra virgin olive oil and protein shakes.. its really that simple..

dense low gi carb sources like whole wheat pastsa, brown rice pasta and oatmeal will help as well..


when i bulk like this i stay really lean and the scale moves up quickly if i go to wendys or BK everyday the scale moves up quickly but i get more fat and less muscle..

we all should be looking to gain muscle if bulking not fat and crappy cals lead to fat not muscle

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[NapoleanComplex]

What about when your done with the bulking cycles and your still like 13%bf then its cool to cut right?

you'll want to hold off a while on cutting. This will give your body to adjust to the new gains and solidify them. Cutting to early, and you can wave bye-bye to those gains you worked so hard for.

 

[powerforward]

bump for a great post

 

[hansel28]

That was a great post!So many people I currently workout with and have in the past try these multiple bulker cycles and only end up looking husky and stocky but not hard and muscular.I tend to eat fairly clean all year round.Im not saying you shouldnt eat heavy as far as calories-2900-4000 a day but try to keep it clean.To me diet is everything and any good pro ,novice or begginner bodybuilder would agree.Anybody new to this board would be wise to listen to dial-tone because he knows what he is talking about!

 

[ogilthorpe]

I was just saying the same thing to a friend last night. We both can put on mass no problem so why eat everything in sight. Now I'm dealing with shedding fat. I'm not doing another "bulking" cyce until I'm absolutely lean. Due to my body type I will bulk lean as you suggest and keep doing cardio. I'd rather put on only 10 pounds of lean mass than 30 pounds of shapeless mass.

 

[little chris]

For me a cutting cycle requires much more gear. Between 1 and 1.25gr of gear since I pretty don't take in more than 60 gr of carbs p/d. I look at other guys cycles and for the most part they do the oppsite which is use much more gear bulking.

Last cutter looked like this
Test 375mg
Primo 400-500mgs
Var 40mgs

However on a bulker since I can finally eat which is what you need to do in an ectomorph frame I take in more food with less gear. Come Dec. My cycle will look like this.

Sust 250mgs
Primo 300mgs
Dbol 25mgs

 

[ogilthorpe]

One more thing, watch out for protein/meal replacement shakes if you're prone to fat gain. Use them judiciously.