Test P, Tren A + Mast....sleeping better, no sides, and acne clearing up...

[colorado1975]

Hi Guys -

My stats:
37 yo
5'11
199 lbs
Bf 11%
Working out for the past 15 years with some breaks (running, weights, etc.)

I'm on my 4th cycle (cutting cycle), 3 weeks in:
1-10 test propionate 75 mg day
2-9 trenbolone ace 50 mg day
1-10 mast propionate 75 mg day
2-10 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
2-8 caber .5 mg e3d
3-12 HCG - 500ius week


Couple questions -


1) I have not felt any sides yet on Tren A....last time on Tren E I felt sides within a few days = sweating during the day, mild anxiety, bad night sweats, insomnia (odd, as it was long acting) - have not felt any sides yet though. Do you think this is because Masteron is helping with the sides? If so, can anybody explain the science as to why this would be?

2) I have not slept well in 8 months (3 months on cycle, 1 month PCT, 4 months off).....within a few days of starting Test Prop and Mast I was sleeping like a baby. Is mast known to help with sleep?

3) Tren, Test, and Masteron are all said to cause acne...over the past 4 months I have not been on cycle and my back acne has been
terrible...since going on Master/Test 2 weeks ago and then Tren last week my back acne has almost gone away....odd again....any idea as to why/how ths could be?

Btw, no complaints here...psyched with how I feel, just trying to understand the science behind it all!

 

[Texas Monster]

1) You are sleeping better because of the caber. That aids with the sleep and the sides of tren.

2) Your acne is due to the fluctuations of hormones not the stability of them. Think about like this. When we go through fluctuations that is when we experience side effects. After PCT your body was trying to get back to normal and in order to do so you went through a wide swing in fluctuation. Now that you are back on your levels have stabalized resulting in less side effects from your hormones ie acne. Same thing happend to me. While on I was clear. Second I came off I had acne on my back.

Couple questions for you.
Why start tren at week 2. Why not just start it at week 1 then have the couple weeks of test at the end to help you recover better.
Are you running N2gaurd and lipid stable. ( you really need to be if you are running tren)
Did you get blood work done before cycling again. Tren recquires extra time off.
Have you ran HCG that long before in the past?

 

[EZ_E]

1) You are sleeping better because of the caber. That aids with the sleep and the sides of tren.

2) Your acne is due to the fluctuations of hormones not the stability of them. Think about like this. When we go through fluctuations that is when we experience side effects. After PCT your body was trying to get back to normal and in order to do so you went through a wide swing in fluctuation. Now that you are back on your levels have stabalized resulting in less side effects from your hormones ie acne. Same thing happend to me. While on I was clear. Second I came off I had acne on my back.

Couple questions for you.
Why start tren at week 2. Why not just start it at week 1 then have the couple weeks of test at the end to help you recover better.
Are you running N2gaurd and lipid stable. ( you really need to be if you are running tren)
Did you get blood work done before cycling again. Tren recquires extra time off.
Have you ran HCG that long before in the past?

Great post TM...

I ran tren E once and had bad sides, but I don't get the same with tren ace....a little insomnia maybe....

Money cycle BTW, my all time favorite...what's your PCT?

~EZ

 

[colorado1975]

Hey TM!

Thanks for your reply and feedback. Appreciated!
Your questions:

Why start tren at week 2. Why not just start it at week 1 then have the couple weeks of test at the end to help you recover better.
I've read a number of times that Mast can help with the sides of Tren and its good start mast a week before Tren....thought I would give it a try. I may add a week at the end of test only to do as you mentioned, recover better. This would give me an 11 week cycle. Hopefully not too long for somebody in my position.

Are you running N2gaurd and lipid stable. ( you really need to be if you are running tren)
I am running 7 caps of N2Guard per day...as far as lipid stable...I am not, is this the name of a product? and if so, any recs on a place to get it? Not sure if that is allowed on here, so maybe via PM?

Did you get blood work done before cycling again. Tren recquires extra time off.
Yes, I had blood work done before I started my cycle....my doc compared it to my blood work from 18 months ago and he was literelly blown away with the improvements (triglycerides, BP, Lipid Panel, Kidney Functioning, Cholesteral, etc. all improved tremendously)....granted I was on a strict diet, intense exercise program, and no booze from feb-july...but I was also on a pretty damn meaty cycle for me personally from Feb-April:
Prop- 300/wk - 12 weeks
Tren e- 450/wk - first 8 weeks
Var- 80/Ed- last 6 weeks
Hcg - 250iu/eod - 12 weeks
HGH - 2.5iu/ed
T3 - 25/Ed
The only thing that was negative with my blood work was low test....359 (range 350-1100). My test was 350 before I ever touched synthetic test so I have had low levels for some time. I assume they spiked during my last cycle only to inch back down over the past 4 months. he is suggesting I go on TRT but only @ 200mg per month...that seems really low to me though. TRT is definately a whole other 'can of worms' as far as logistics and cycles so I have a LOT to learn on this subject and how to go about doing so if I do.

Have you ran HCG that long before in the past?[/QUOTE]
Yes, I've run HCG at 250iu eod for 12 weeks following by 1000iu ED for 5 days at the start of PCT for my last cycle.

 

[Texas Monster]

Are you running T3 right now too?

 

[colorado1975]

Great post TM...

I ran tren E once and had bad sides, but I don't get the same with tren ace....a little insomnia maybe....

Money cycle BTW, my all time favorite...what's your PCT?

~EZ

Hi EZ -
interesting we dont get the same sides on Tren A - a lot of people say the sides are worse on Tren A at that!

I agree, def a money cycle...only starting my third week but feel so good and calm as well as strong and already see some nice results. It almost feels TOO good as I think I'm going to get addicted to this one!#*&*& Trash the psychotrophic meds and therapy and go gear for psychological peace of mind! I'm sure Keiser and my doc would be real big on that plan! Anyhow, my planned PCT is as follows:

PCT
11-14 clomid 25/25/25/25
11-14 Unleashed/post cycle combo
11-14 forma stanzol
11-14 daa powerchews or powder

I say planned PCT as my doc wants me to go on TRT for low test....not sure what I'm going to do here though.

 

[colorado1975]

I'm not. Thoughts? I told my psychiatrist about T3 when I was taking it and he had little concern as he said it used to be used for an antidepressent for a long time until the better ones came out. Interesting how different types of docs have such different opinions on all of this stuff. He also said, and I quote, 'I think testosterone was the best treatment for you depression that I have seen in the 8 years I've seen you'.....

 

[dylangemelli]

the product is called lipid stabil... just do a google search on it and look for the cheapest price because some places sell it much cheaper than others bro... its a great product... myself and many others have used it and have been very happy with it... please don't run t3... its a muscle eating piece of trash... its not necessary at all... i can't stand clen and t3... just a bunch of shit to me... your cycle is excellent as is bro... keep working hard and keep us updated on your progress...

 

[colorado1975]

the product is called lipid stabil... just do a google search on it and look for the cheapest price because some places sell it much cheaper than others bro... its a great product... myself and many others have used it and have been very happy with it... please don't run t3... its a muscle eating piece of trash... its not necessary at all... i can't stand clen and t3... just a bunch of shit to me... your cycle is excellent as is bro... keep working hard and keep us updated on your progress...

noted, no T3 here brother! and lipid stabil started today. Thanks!