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solidrock5

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Just looking for people who experienced all esters of test. Anyone prefer sust over enanth or cyp? gained more? kicked in faster im sure? gains came faster? less water?
Ive read alot just seeing what people on the board feel and what they like.
test is test what you prefer?
 
I prefer e or c just cause I don't like pinning as often to achieve stable levels. With your nutrition in check I gain hardly any water retention
 
On week 6 of test-e cycle. Nice gains been made so far. Bit bloated though but other than that its a very enjoyable cycle.

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I am liking this test prop cycle I am on. No water bloat and awesome gains.
 
Have only run sust and test e.. pinning is the same but my test e is legit pharma grade so its unbelievably smooth.. the sust was UGL and left a good bit of PIP..

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bonacris said:
Have only run sust and test e.. pinning is the same but my test e is legit pharma grade so its unbelievably smooth.. the sust was UGL and left a good bit of PIP..

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Sust can be pinned e3.5d but would be much better pinned Ed or oed for more stable levels.
 
i never tried sust or prop but im thinking of running sust with my next cycle or just kick starting the cycle with some prop
 
I love them all. My early years my fave was SUST. Now I prefer CYP or ENAN just do to less injects per week.
 
You just haven't found the best of both worlds. Or you have?
I have tried suspension, prop, pynolprop, E 250, E 300, E400, C200, sust 250 and sust 350.
I prefer suspension, then cyp, prop, pynoprop, E's then sustanons.
To me its how they made me feel.
 
I never noticed much difference. Prop isn;t worth the extra pinning. I have some on hand if I ever decide to compete again, I'd use it the last 2 weeks to be a little dryer. But other than that, I don't see any advantage. If you're holding that much water, back off on the dosages. I also think it's funny when guys use prop and deca!
 
kubes said:
Sust can be pinned e3.5d but would be much better pinned Ed or oed for more stable levels.
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Thats the worst advice I have heard in a while. Sustanon was developed to be once per week. It is not based on the shortest ester its based on the average of all the esters. Sustanon has the Decoanate ester which lasts I think 15 days. Please do some more reading.
 
goin on 4T said:
Thats the worst advice I have heard in a while. Sustanon was developed to be once per week. It is not based on the shortest ester its based on the average of all the esters. Sustanon has the Decoanate ester which lasts I think 15 days. Please do some more reading.
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there was a guy on youtube who did a vlog and said he was pinning sustanon EOD and I wrote that he should pin it once a week only and he argued with me and there were several posters who told him that he was correct to pin EOD. amazing how much bad info is out there

if guys want to pin EOD then they should use prop. sustanon should to be pinned every 8 days and ran 14 weeks to take advantage of its long acting esters. only a very small % (about 12%) of sustanon is made up of prop. that means 88% isn't. so not sure why guys treat it like prop when its only 12% of it??
 
stevesmi said:
there was a guy on youtube who did a vlog and said he was pinning sustanon EOD and I wrote that he should pin it once a week only and he argued with me and there were several posters who told him that he was correct to pin EOD. amazing how much bad info is out there

if guys want to pin EOD then they should use prop. sustanon should to be pinned every 8 days and ran 14 weeks to take advantage of its long acting esters. only a very small % (about 12%) of sustanon is made up of prop. that means 88% isn't. so not sure why guys treat it like prop when its only 12% of it??
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But Steve!!!! What about my unstable blood levels??? Gotta pin it EOD!! :)

You're right about the misinformation. A little searching on sust around other forums explains where most guys get this idea.
 
Jbranken said:
But Steve!!!! What about my unstable blood levels??? Gotta pin it EOD!! :)

You're right about the misinformation. A little searching on sust around other forums explains where most guys get this idea.
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yeah thats what that guy told me on youtube. he said "if you pinned once a week you would get a yo yo" definately its forum guru's spouting this shit is where they are getting it
 
stevesmi said:
yeah thats what that guy told me on youtube. he said "if you pinned once a week you would get a yo yo" definately its forum guru's spouting this shit is where they are getting it
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I stay away from commenting on YouTube. It's mostly 17-20 y/o kids trying to have keyboard wars with eachother. Can't win an argument there lol
 
"steroids are bad. period. they might make you look more muscly but yeah they do come with a MASSIVE risk. if you take too many of them at one time you can get high and you'll start tripping. just don't do it, its bad for you. and it makes hair grow on your back."

LOLOL

"Yes it comes with a risk. It's altering your genetics so something like that isn't going to be good for you. The damage never wears off. Mainly you're average guys do it because they're not getting enough attention from ladies."

Is this true??!!?
 
If you;re concerned with unstable blood levels, sus is the worst thing to use since it has short and long acting esters.
 
Test is test...
 
Thanks for the replys i have just been using enanthate ester and sust seemed nice because i would like to start feeling the test and seeing gains and pumps a little sooner while having the longer esters running the cycle 10-16 weeks not having to pin ed also considering next cycle maybe jumpstarting with some prop just trying to decided asking about other experience Thanks again
 
solidrock5 said:
Thanks for the replys i have just been using enanthate ester and sust seemed nice because i would like to start feeling the test and seeing gains and pumps a little sooner while having the longer esters running the cycle 10-16 weeks not having to pin ed also considering next cycle maybe jumpstarting with some prop just trying to decided asking about other experience Thanks again
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Kick start with an oral either.. I say this because I'm still uncomfortable with pinning the whole time

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I have had this discussion over Sust sooooo many times ... I don't even wanna get into another one. I cannot pin sust or Prop ... my body reacts really shit to it ...I get immense PIP and the worst Test flu ever! I prefer the Cyp ester ... but at no less than 12 weeks. Pinned suspension in the past but hell ... that bitch just burnt me to smitherines! The Enan is not bad either, but for me personally, my body, the molecular weight in the 300mg/ml is just too heavy and the depot I create by pinning gets really hard and uncomfortable after only 4 weeks.
 
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Essie said:
I have had this discussion over Sust sooooo many times ... I don't even wanna get into another one. I cannot pin sust or Prop ... my body reacts really shit to it ...I get immense PIP and the worst Test flu ever! I prefer the Cyp ester ... but at no less than 12 weeks. Pinned suspension in the past but hell ... that bitch just burnt me to smitherines! The Enan is not bad either, but for me personally, my body, the molecular weight in the 300mg/ml is just too heavy and the depot I create by pinning gets really hard and uncomfortable after only 4 weeks.
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Same thing with the pip, I cut mine with oil, but I also got really bad test flu. Can't do it anymore.
 
What gives you the bad PIP? Do you cut your Sust with oil? I havebconsidered it previously, but then you are left with 3cc's to pin just to get your 250mg worth of Test ... :-)
 
I am not in anyway trying to start a debate but I am wondering what the benefit are to not keeping the levels of the short esters steady? Or you guys saying that they will be steady enough with less injection frequency of once EW? I came here to pick up on some new things and get another perspective
 
kubes said:
I am not in anyway trying to start a debate but I am wondering what the benefit are to not keeping the levels of the short esters steady? Or you guys saying that they will be steady enough with less injection frequency of once EW? I came here to pick up on some new things and get another perspective
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Sust was designed for guys on trt.. it requires less pinning and you can get away with pinning once a week but twice is ideal.. the percentage of short esters in sust is not equal to the rest and is usually less than 15% so its not worth while to pin ed or even eod because you wouldn't even notice the prop kicking in

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Essie said:
What gives you the bad PIP? Do you cut your Sust with oil? I havebconsidered it previously, but then you are left with 3cc's to pin just to get your 250mg worth of Test ... :-)
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Depending how bad the first shot goes I'll try 1/2ml first and if that's not enough then a full ml of oil. I had to add an extra ml of oil to my test/tren/mast blends as well and primo. Primo kicks my ass.
 
bonacris said:
Sust was designed for guys on trt.. it requires less pinning and you can get away with pinning once a week but twice is ideal.. the percentage of short esters in sust is not equal to the rest and is usually less than 15% so its not worth while to pin ed or even eod because you wouldn't even notice the prop kicking in

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This is why I don't care for blends. Test e or c is just easy pin every 3.5 days and done
 
Essie said:
What gives you the bad PIP? Do you cut your Sust with oil? I havebconsidered it previously, but then you are left with 3cc's to pin just to get your 250mg worth of Test ... :-)
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I believe you are having a reaction to the prop ester. Try to cut it with sterile GS oil 1ml/1ml.
 
I was thinking when you said even primo was giving you a hard time....maybe i was wrong If you were cutting primo with extra oil, depending on the ml/mg for the primo i guess all ive seens was 100mg per ml for primo that would be alot of oil assuming you were using over 600mg ew along with test.... idk i guess thats what you get for assuming huh lol
 
solidrock5 said:
I was thinking when you said even primo was giving you a hard time....maybe i was wrong If you were cutting primo with extra oil, depending on the ml/mg for the primo i guess all ive seens was 100mg per ml for primo that would be alot of oil assuming you were using over 600mg ew along with test.... idk i guess thats what you get for assuming huh lol
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My primo is 200mg/ml and my test varies, I have some at 400mg/ml and some at 600mg/ml, that's all enanthate and I haven't had to cut that. I don't do prop or sust anymore unless the prop is in a blend. For primo I do 1.5ml (300mg) to 1ml of oil, primo is just a very large molecule and kicks like a mule regardless how you cut it.

So really I'm doing 2ml's of oil a week, didn't realize you were stalking me, lol.
 
I have used Sust, Prop, E and C.... I have attempted Ed pinning to E4d pinning and i got similiar results from all... But feel prop keep the retention down the most in my opinion...
 
goin on 4T said:
I believe you are having a reaction to the prop ester. Try to cut it with sterile GS oil 1ml/1ml.
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Nah ... I KNOW I am having a reaction to the prop ... I pinned Sust a few times, all from different brands to see if it was just the first lab's sust which hurt me, but they all did. So I then worked through all the esters in Sust and found the culprit ... PROP! Since then, haven't pinned sust again and won't touch prop ever, EVER again! lol! Susp hurts me ... it burns like a mofo ... but at least it doesn't leave me with that prolonged PIP and flu. :p ;) :evil: :chomp:
 
Captain FT said:
Depending how bad the first shot goes I'll try 1/2ml first and if that's not enough then a full ml of oil. I had to add an extra ml of oil to my test/tren/mast blends as well and primo. Primo kicks my ass.
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When you say Primo kicks your ass ... do you mena that it kicks your ass in a bad way ... as in makes you cringe when administered? ... LOLOL!!!!! :cool:
 
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