Test E/ TBol / Sustanon

[torxes]

Hey guys, so me and my buddy are planning on trying out our first cycle ever, we are both pretty built, i weight at 180 with around 10~12% BF, and i'm 5'9

so what we are thinking of cycling is Test E with TBol and Sustanon, any suggestions / opinions about that cycle ? i'm looking for that lazar angelov look hahah.

but real talk, any tips ? and good dosage advice for first timers looking for serious gains ?

i already follow a strict diet consisting of
Meal 1: Oatmeal / eggs
Meal 2: Rice / chicken /asperagus
Meal 3: Rice / Chicken
Meal 4: Rice / Chicken (usually skip this meal )
Meal 5: Fish & salad
Meal 6: Steak & salad


than you in advanced !!

 

[bigorse]

Drop the sust

Go:
test e 1-12 500mg ew
Tbol 1-5 75mg ed

This would be a good lean bulk cycle with minimal water retention as far as bulker go but it Will depend on diet esp. Sodium intake and keeping estrogen in tact.

As for pct i would go

Nolva 40 40 20 20
Clomid 50 25 25 25
Test booster of choice

 

[torxes]

Drop the sust

Go:
test e 1-12 500mg ew
Tbol 1-5 75mg ed

This would be a good lean bulk cycle with minimal water retention as far as bulker go but it Will depend on diet esp. Sodium intake and keeping estrogen in tact.

As for pct i would go

Nolva 40 40 20 20
Clomid 50 25 25 25
Test booster of choice

hey man, and thank you so much for your reply, any reason why you are suggesting i should drop sust?

 

[bigorse]

Sus will probably hold a little water on you so you wont have that lazar look. Also i dont think its the best idea to mix two differen tests.

 

[torxes]

Sus will probably hold a little water on you so you wont have that lazar look. Also i dont think its the best idea to mix two differen tests.

the reason i was considering sus is for the fact that it has deca, would that not help my cause ? sorry for to many questions haha just someone trying to benefit the most out of a cycle

 

[jtmdell]

You can go with either sust or test e, you really don't need both for your first time. You'll make great gains

 

[torxes]

what do you guys think of tren e, tbol & sustanon stack ? would that work better ?

 

[bigorse]

Not for a first cycle. Just keep it simple. Test only or test and tbol kick start

 

[Stackinplates]

The look u want only one compound really will give it to ya and it's not a first cycle compound but u will get there soon enough !!!

 

[Stackinplates]

Good luck on ur journeyoops where did that pizza come from

No sodium like stated above for the lean gains

 

[torxes]

okay so i ended up ordering tren E, Tbol & Sustanon :$ NEED DEM GAINSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

can someone give me good dosage advice ? i know for tbol i'm supposed to be taking a minimum of 50mg/day ? tren E Once a week (if so, how much should i take per week, cc value pref) Sustanon(Twice a week ? again cc value would be awesome) ?

im 5'9 & weight 180 & in great physique
and as stated above, i have a pretty solid diet that i'm going to fix up to make it eeven better for some leaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan gainz brother, if i get a good dosage advice i'm planning on logging this and keeping you guys updated for i am looking to kill my workouts during the period of time i'm going to be on this.

THANK YOU IN ADVANCED

 

[Chestbrahther]

Go with dbol is much more efficient

 

[Chestbrahther]

okay so i ended up ordering tren E, Tbol & Sustanon :$ NEED DEM GAINSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS



can someone give me good dosage advice ? i know for tbol i'm supposed to be taking a minimum of 50mg/day ? tren E Once a week (if so, how much should i take per week, cc value pref) Sustanon(Twice a week ? again cc value would be awesome) ?



im 5'9 & weight 180 & in great physique

and as stated above, i have a pretty solid diet that i'm going to fix up to make it eeven better for some leaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan gainz brother, if i get a good dosage advice i'm planning on logging this and keeping you guys updated for i am looking to kill my workouts during the period of time i'm going to be on this.



THANK YOU IN ADVANCED

1) go informate please, you seem like you have no idea of what you are doing and you are just saying random compounds...
2) drop tren (wtf dude? Its your first cycle and you wanna try the heviest shit?)
3) go for dbol instead of tbol, much more better.. MUCH MORE, and if you are very... VERY worried about water retention, go for tbol but change sust for test e. Remember water retention is not bad, it will help your strength and if you are bulking worry about to bulk, not about the ripped look.

 

[torxes]

man i really dont wanna touch dbol, i hate the acne most people get from it, one of my closest friends was taking dbol for a cycle, and oh my god his back looks like mountains of acne... idk might have been just a bad kind, i know it doesnt hit everyone like that but still... after seeing that it just scares you so i chose to completely dump the idea of dbol.

is it really that bad to take tren on my first cycle ? any reason not to take tren ? please enlighten me i'm new and i would love to know, and dont rage for my stupidity !!

i would love to keep the water retention to the minimum if possible

 

[Stackinplates]

Ur not gona get much advice on u cycle someone told ya not to do tren and u still did it! Also if u have done any research u would have read tren is a advanced user compound

On top of that tren e!! U will take it and can't discontinue it and u will be wishing u had acne if u experience the sides! They suck I got the on my first run wit tren !

Basically u can feel that compound flowing through ur body very harsh compound and acne is the least of ur concern with that one !

Dbol won't just give u acne bro if ur gonna get acne on dbol ur gonna most likely get it in test of other compounds ! I have run tren 5 times and it's no joke I even run it at a super low dose . But do what u do ! I'm not giving advice ! I don't give advice to guys under 25 or guys that don't listen to other guys recommendations
If guys are gona just ignore and blatantly do what the wanna do I hope they get harsh tren sides or issues so then they ca share the story with others

So go for it try ur tren and who knows things might go well!

Btw I know many guys that tren has given them acne so bad that they have scars! Not trying to scare ya .. But it's a reality and even more real when u come off the drugs pct is known to give some killer acne !

 

[Stackinplates]

Like I said no one is gonna give u dose advice when u ignore the original advice!
Tren is s stupid choice for ur first go around
When ur 4 weeks in on ur tren message us again let us know how u feel please !! Thing is too if u stop it wil still be in ur system. For many weeks and the sides will linger as well!!

 

[torxes]

chill dude lol, i got tren cause i didnt wanna go cheap ass on something i'm going to inj in my body, so i went big (go big or go home right? ) anyways without farther due, a low dosage of tren would be 200mg/week ? i kinda was already planning on taking low dosage of tren, as you see i've asked for dosage advice but you would rather shit on me all morning than try and give me a helpful dosage

 

[bigorse]

I think you should respect and appreciate some of the advice the vets on this forum give you. They arent pulling shit out of their ass to scare you away from certain things they are speaking from experience and giving you the best advice they can. Why make a mistake that could potenitially screw you for life when people with experience can tell you what to do/not to do?

 

[Chestbrahther]

Let me try to understand your reasoning... You dont wand dbol for the acne and you wanna go tren
Dbol will not give you the acne that tren does!! Not even 10 times less, tren acne is some disgusting shit, if your friend did dbol and got acne was very probably that was caused by the test. Listen to the advice people give you, dont just ask and then go and do whatever, then people advice will be useless and they are waisting their time on someone who doesnt want to change their mind. Tren is the heviest roid and you want to go in there in your first cycle, you dont even know how your body is going to react just with test, wait until some more cycles to give it a try to tren. And if you are very worried about acne, dont even consider it.

 

[Stackinplates]

Bro u gonna tell me to chill when I am on Trt for life because of stupid mistAkes I made like ur fixing to do! I will make it a point to try and help everyone but if u wanna go big or go home then I hope ur ready for the crappy feeling u get when ur pct fails to get u back to normal

But who knows u might just be fine .! Will tell ya one thing if ur worried about acne hormones is a risk u gotta take

U need to respect people on this board and keep peace don't be a thing up causing drama

I'm out of this tread and like I said I tried to help and give the best advice but u wanna ignore it so ima ignore this thread

Adios

 

[torxes]

and not a single dosage advice was given LOL, this is why i hate forums, filled with easily butthurt people that are looking for the smallest reason to shit on someone.

thank god for body builder friends.

 

[jb2012ny]

Dude you come in here asking for advice and then you do the opposite. You dnt need tren! First cycle just do a test and tbol is fine. You wanna see how your body reacts too these drugs. You dnt need a mix.. You have plenty of time

 

[wootoom]

Dude you come in here asking for advice and then you do the opposite. You dnt need tren! First cycle just do a test and tbol is fine. You wanna see how your body reacts too these drugs. You dnt need a mix.. You have plenty of time

I totally agree, using a ton of juice creates a bigger problem...needing more. Why not start small? Why not see how your body reacts to separate compounds. A nice first cycle of Test will give you awesome gains. Trust me. If it doesn't, your diet and training isn't in order or its fake. ASS isn't a wonder drug.

 

[torxes]

See, thats the type of help i'm looking for, not shit on me all day -_-' thank you wootom & jb, you are the people i want advice from, The experts & Knowledgeable .

i dont have test e right now the guy i ordered from is kinda annoying lol, definitely not going with that guy again seeing i dont have the ability to alter my order. but i managed to get my hands on his supplier for next time.

what do you guys think if i get on tbol(30mg/day) & Sustanon(.6cc EOD(Every Other day)) only ? would that get me good gains ? even my buddy (won first place in bodybuilding in my province) suggested to not use tren E, but if i insisted to he suggested i take an extremely low dosage, which is .4cc EOD.

 

[wootoom]

Well stick with the Sust. Don't worry about the Test E...Tbol will add a nice kick as well! Good luck and keep us updated

 

[jb2012ny]

I personally like test cyp. And you dnt need 500 mg week. 400 is fine. 200mg Monday and Thursday Tbol 60 mg everyday 4 weeks...

 

[torxes]

so i should take sus twice a week instead of every other day ?
Whats the cc value of 400mg of sustanon ? i know 1 cc will contain 250mg of test in it, so around .7cc every monday / thursday ?

oh man inj this shit is going to be so rough LOOL

 

[torxes]

Hello again guys i would like to update you on whats been happening, i've decided not to get on tren E and see how sustanon and tbol goes, i started my cycle yesterday with .6 cc of sustanon and 20mg of tbol, kept that on low dosage just to see if my body would react badly to it, anyways... today ill be bumping the tbol to 50mg

but OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH my god, best workout of my life, did shoulders and felt like i had a gigantic ball in my shoulders, the pump was UNREAL

 

[Chestbrahther]

Hello again guys i would like to update you on whats been happening, i've decided not to get on tren E and see how sustanon and tbol goes, i started my cycle yesterday with .6 cc of sustanon and 20mg of tbol, kept that on low dosage just to see if my body would react badly to it, anyways... today ill be bumping the tbol to 50mg

but OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH my god, best workout of my life, did shoulders and felt like i had a gigantic ball in my shoulders, the pump was UNREAL

Niceee, glad for you, in starting my first cycle next month, you are making me wanna start now hahaha

 

[torxes]

hahah do it up !! my workout today wasnt as great, probably because i went right after breakfast, couldnt go as ham as yesterday D: probably because i had no carbs :<

 

[Stackinplates]

Good choice on not running tren e!! U will be happy when u run it later on down the down enjoy gaining on low doses and keep things simple when u get more advanced u can always up dose and types of gear !!

Keep us posted on how things go and let me know if u need any advice on stuff!
I got ur back

 

[torxes]

guys how the hell am i supposed to train legs... my butt cheek still hurts from the injection lol, like i get pain in every step

 

[torxes]

@stackinplates

thanks man you're awesome ! i will post progress pics after the cycle i already have a really good base so i'm very excited to see these new gains

 

[torxes]

can someone give me tips on how to ease the injection site pain ? :/ i injected my 1cc of sustanon in the quad this time cause my buttocks was still a little soar, and oh man i feel like a cripple,i can barely bend my leg 90 degrees and walking up the stairs is a serious mission.

i've been using the icy hot pads and i dont think thats helping much, kinda stopped feeling its effect by the second pad, do you think the gel is bad to put over the injection site? any tips would be helpful...

thanks a ton !