test boosters vs aas

[bowly]

have a question..when one takes test boosters like novodex xt there is a surge in the total test.....for me it went 200 points over the max range and it was supported by arginine,cactus agnus and zma..
this excess of free and total test did not provide me with the protein synthesis that comes with the use of aas but it did make the balls grow healthier ,erections thicker and sex better..
at some point this excess started converting to estro and that caused the gyno for me..
so does it mean that even test boosters need a pct and warrants use of ai s and serms..
once the test level has reached 3 times your natural level what time window does one have to cash on it till it goes down to base level..
at 35 yrs can test ever stay at twice or thrice the base level as a permanent upgrade..
can for some test boosters be better than aas

 

[tripleOG]

IMO, definitely not. No otc test booster will ever compare to aas. I've taken all of them and I've honestly never seen even marginaly good results. Yeah I might get a little horny or an even harder boner but that's about it. Also I feel like they do cause gyno just as much as aas but without the anabolic possibilities. Just my 2 cents.

 

[goal245]

Test boosters (novadex xt etc.) are basically mild aromatse inhibitors. This means less of your natural testosterone gets converted to estrogen hence the raised test levels. I also remember seeing a study that showed ingredients in novadex xt to show up as testosterone in a blood/urine test. So the 200 points over the max you achieved could have been just a false reading for ingredients in the novadex xt and not actual testosterone. You cant get gyno from novadex xt and you dont need pct as it is a crappy pct by itself

 

[Nelson Montana]

have a question..when one takes test boosters like novodex xt there is a surge in the total test....


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THERE ISN;T A SINGLE NATTY PRODUCT TAT WILL INCREASE TOTAL T. THAT'S WHAT MAKES UNLEASHED SO UNIQUE. IT LOWERS SHBG WHICH INCREASES FREE T. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT.

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for me it went 200 points over the max range and it was supported by arginine,cactus agnus and zma..

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NO WAY YOUR T INCREASED FROM THOSE INGREDIENTS.



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this excess of free and total test did not provide me with the protein synthesis that comes with the use of aas but it did make the balls grow healthier ,erections thicker and sex better..


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NOT FROM THE PRODUCTS YOU MENTIONED, EXCEPT MAYBE ARGININE WILL GIVE BETTER ERECTIONS.

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at some point this excess started converting to estro and that caused the gyno for me..
so does it mean that even test boosters need a pct and warrants use of ai s and serms..

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SOME OF THOSE PRODUCTS CAN INCREASE ESTRO. IT ISN;T AROMATIZATION.



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once the test level has reached 3 times your natural level what time window does one have to cash on it till it goes down to base level..
at 35 yrs can test ever stay at twice or thrice the base level as a permanent upgrade..


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THE EFFECTS OF UNLEASHED IS ABOUT 48 HOURS.



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can for some test boosters be better than aas


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DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU MEAN BY "BETTER." IF BY BETTER YOU MEAN "MORE" THE ANSWER IS "NO."

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[bowly]

Test boosters (novadex xt etc.) are basically mild aromatse inhibitors. This means less of your natural testosterone gets converted to estrogen hence the raised test levels. I also remember seeing a study that showed ingredients in novadex xt to show up as testosterone in a blood/urine test. So the 200 points over the max you achieved could have been just a false reading for ingredients in the novadex xt and not actual testosterone. You cant get gyno from novadex xt and you dont need pct as it is a crappy pct by itself

makes sense bro..i was wondering how can an otc raise test so much..even when on peak of my cycle my test was only 536..so i started to wonder whats up with this stuff..but incase one uses these stuff how do you plan the defence against a possible gyno arising out of an estro rebound

 

[joe d]

no comparison. some could be slightly effective off cycle. some are helpful in pct.

 

[bowly]

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Quote posted by bowly http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/test-boosters-vs-aas-663606.html#post8972003​

have a question..when one takes test boosters like novodex xt there is a surge in the total test....
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THERE ISN;T A SINGLE NATTY PRODUCT TAT WILL INCREASE TOTAL T. THAT'S WHAT MAKES Unleashed SO UNIQUE. IT LOWERS SHBG WHICH INCREASES FREE T. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT. Don’t get it in my part of the world..will try and get it for my next cycle for sure

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for me it went 200 points over the max range and it was supported by arginine,cactus agnus and zma..
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NO WAY YOUR T INCREASED FROM THOSE INGREDIENTS.started these test boosters after 5weeks of pct,nolva clomid proviron..was low on vitality and mood..blood test showed test at241..hence tried the test boosters..the pct drugs don’t cause gyno and neither do arginine cactus and zma..so we are left with novodex xt which has a reputation of causing delayed gyno



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this excess of free and total test did not provide me with the Protein synthesis that comes with the use of aas but it did make the balls grow healthier ,erections thicker and sex better..
..........................................

NOT FROM THE PRODUCTS YOU MENTIONED, EXCEPT MAYBE ARGININE WILL GIVE BETTER ERECTIONS.yes it could be the arginine giving me the excitement but what about my test which was at 1200 and free test at 71..lh at 4 times the max range at28..it was definitely something more than just arginine

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at some point this excess started converting to estro and that caused the gyno for me..
so does it mean that even test boosters need a PCT and warrants use of ai s and serms..
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SOME OF THOSE PRODUCTS CAN INCREASE ESTRO. IT ISN;T AROMATIZATION.but could sudden stopping of novodex xt cause a surge in the estro and cause gyno as complained by others too..​

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once the test level has reached 3 times your natural level what time window does one have to cash on it till it goes down to base level..
at 35 yrs can test ever stay at twice or thrice the base level as a permanent upgrade..


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THE EFFECTS OF Unleashed IS ABOUT 48 HOURS.no I mean the test which went to1200..how long does it take for it to come back to 240..which would be my base level..​

Also the other question was can at 35yrs my test level raise permanently to double or triple the base level ever

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can for some test boosters be better than aas
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DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU MEAN BY "BETTER." IF BY BETTER YOU MEAN "MORE" THE ANSWER IS "NO."yes it did not give me the protein synthesis that I get in 4 weeks of orals alone..after what goal said that novodex has ingredients that show raised test levels instead of actually raising them I would agree that test boosters hardly match upto aas​

 

[bowly]

no comparison. some could be slightly effective off cycle. some are helpful in pct.

agreed...whats your weight and bf joe..your back looks really good..

 

[burnthiscorpse]

test booster vs. AAS....translation....garbage vs. real deal

Not to knock things like Unleashed because I have used it. But to me those things are best used for pct and even while "on". To help with natty test levels.

 

[Nelson Montana]

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Quote posted by bowly http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/test-boosters-vs-aas-663606.html#post8972003
have a question..when one takes test boosters like novodex xt there is a surge in the total test....
.................................................. ......

THERE ISN;T A SINGLE NATTY PRODUCT TAT WILL INCREASE TOTAL T. THAT'S WHAT MAKES Unleashed SO UNIQUE. IT LOWERS SHBG WHICH INCREASES FREE T. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT. Don’t get it in my part of the world..will try and get it for my next cycle for sure

.................................................. .............................

for me it went 200 points over the max range and it was supported by arginine,cactus agnus and zma..
.........................................

NO WAY YOUR T INCREASED FROM THOSE INGREDIENTS.started these test boosters after 5weeks of pct,nolva clomid proviron..was low on vitality and mood..blood test showed test at241..hence tried the test boosters..the pct drugs don’t cause gyno and neither do arginine cactus and zma..so we are left with novodex xt which has a reputation of causing delayed gyno



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this excess of free and total test did not provide me with the Protein synthesis that comes with the use of aas but it did make the balls grow healthier ,erections thicker and sex better..
..........................................

NOT FROM THE PRODUCTS YOU MENTIONED, EXCEPT MAYBE ARGININE WILL GIVE BETTER ERECTIONS.yes it could be the arginine giving me the excitement but what about my test which was at 1200 and free test at 71..lh at 4 times the max range at28..it was definitely something more than just arginine

.................................................. ......
at some point this excess started converting to estro and that caused the gyno for me..
so does it mean that even test boosters need a PCT and warrants use of ai s and serms..
....................................

SOME OF THOSE PRODUCTS CAN INCREASE ESTRO. IT ISN;T AROMATIZATION.but could sudden stopping of novodex xt cause a surge in the estro and cause gyno as complained by others too..

..............................................
once the test level has reached 3 times your natural level what time window does one have to cash on it till it goes down to base level..
at 35 yrs can test ever stay at twice or thrice the base level as a permanent upgrade..


.................................................. .............


THE EFFECTS OF Unleashed IS ABOUT 48 HOURS.no I mean the test which went to1200..how long does it take for it to come back to 240..which would be my base level..
Also the other question was can at 35yrs my test level raise permanently to double or triple the base level ever

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can for some test boosters be better than aas
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DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU MEAN BY "BETTER." IF BY BETTER YOU MEAN "MORE" THE ANSWER IS "NO."yes it did not give me the protein synthesis that I get in 4 weeks of orals alone..after what goal said that novodex has ingredients that show raised test levels instead of actually raising them I would agree that test boosters hardly match upto aas​

#1: What raised your T was the Proviron.

#2: UNLEASHED is good for a natty guy to give him an edge. For someone who uses gear, it's great for PCT or even to increase the effectiveness of a cycle, but it obviously isn't a substitute for steroids.