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[GredDoucette11]

Hey boys, i wanted to hop in on the forum and reach out regarding some issues i’ve had and many other people have had regarding my EX coach Swcc @Swcc Coaching, which everyone knows who he is. Just please be aware of who this guy truely is before you sign up with him.



Little back story, I’m fresh 20 years old. i signed up with Swcc Coaaching to get some guidance on a cycle after being on trt for a few years myself and wanted to take things to next level under guidance of a coach, so i obviously saw Swcc physique and hes knowledge and put my trust into the guy. I wanted to show him i was committed and willing to pay him 52 weeks (1 year) upfront to show him im in this fully.



I was on 150mg test E previously, never upped it, Swcc knew that. I joined up with him, he got me blasting 750 test 350 primo 150npp 100 mast 18iu of HGH, 4iu novorapid. Mind you i’m only on 2.4k calories, low carbs. Instead of increasing my food whenever my weight would stabilise- if it did as i was hella watery and weight kept spiking and spiking, he would just keep pushing my doses higher and higher instead of food.



This cycle was 20 odd weeks. Keep in mind, 0 BLOODS were taken (never requested for them). 0 Blood pressure checks were requested or told me to take them. 0 Blood glucose checks too. That’s on 18iu mind u. With using overdosed HGH which is actually 22iu a day, which he knew.



I didn’t know that what i was doing at the time was wrong and the cycles he put me on was wrong. It wasn’t til the fact, 10 other clients left (in space of 2 days) and made me realise what he was actually doing to my health so i decided myself that i have to pull the pin and leave swcc for the better of me as i knew it was the right thing for me leaving me 20 weeks of payments to be refunded ($1700), which Swcc agreed to refund me on, and he didn’t. Instead he decided to block me on every platform possible.

Swcc is a very terrible person.



I am now thankfully with a new coach, under proper guidance and taking all health protocols seriously. Got bloods done and they weren’t exactly healthy at all, that’s what happens when you sign up with Swcc, you get unhealthy. He does not care about health at all.





Feel free to join in on your experiences in the comments.

 

[Presk]

After speaking to some ex clients, with all the anecdotes this man should not be coaching individuals.
Genuinely a hazard in the community

 

[Trumpy]

Hey boys, i wanted to hop in on the forum and reach out regarding some issues i’ve had and many other people have had regarding my EX coach Swcc @Swcc Coaching, which everyone knows who he is. Just please be aware of who this guy truely is before you sign up with him.



Little back story, I’m fresh 20 years old. i signed up with Swcc Coaaching to get some guidance on a cycle after being on trt for a few years myself and wanted to take things to next level under guidance of a coach, so i obviously saw Swcc physique and hes knowledge and put my trust into the guy. I wanted to show him i was committed and willing to pay him 52 weeks (1 year) upfront to show him im in this fully.



I was on 150mg test E previously, never upped it, Swcc knew that. I joined up with him, he got me blasting 750 test 350 primo 150npp 100 mast 18iu of HGH, 4iu novorapid. Mind you i’m only on 2.4k calories, low carbs. Instead of increasing my food whenever my weight would stabilise- if it did as i was hella watery and weight kept spiking and spiking, he would just keep pushing my doses higher and higher instead of food.



This cycle was 20 odd weeks. Keep in mind, 0 BLOODS were taken (never requested for them). 0 Blood pressure checks were requested or told me to take them. 0 Blood glucose checks too. That’s on 18iu mind u. With using overdosed HGH which is actually 22iu a day, which he knew.



I didn’t know that what i was doing at the time was wrong and the cycles he put me on was wrong. It wasn’t til the fact, 10 other clients left (in space of 2 days) and made me realise what he was actually doing to my health so i decided myself that i have to pull the pin and leave swcc for the better of me as i knew it was the right thing for me leaving me 20 weeks of payments to be refunded ($1700), which Swcc agreed to refund me on, and he didn’t. Instead he decided to block me on every platform possible.

Swcc is a very terrible person.



I am now thankfully with a new coach, under proper guidance and taking all health protocols seriously. Got bloods done and they weren’t exactly healthy at all, that’s what happens when you sign up with Swcc, you get unhealthy. He does not care about health at all.





Feel free to join in on your experiences in the comments.

His unethical conduct extends well beyond this, though this is a fuckin’ huge problem in its own right.

He has been banned on UGL Talk and other forums for a while.

Glad to hear you’re sorted with a good coach now bro.

 

[LVTN]

Also had the displeasure of dealing with Swcc, thankfully not as a client. Some of the protocols he pushes on his clients are fkn wild with complete and total disregard for health - literally zero health monitoring whatsoever

Blocking a client on all platforms after agreeing to pay them back also shows just how spineless he can really be

It’s one fucked up story after another with this bloke, should not be allowed to coach full stop

 

[GredDoucette11]

truely a fuckwit. Needs to banned on all forums

 

[LVTN]

truely a fuckwit. Needs to banned on all forums

Needs to own up to his mistakes and the damage he’s caused imo

 

[GredDoucette11]

His unethical conduct extends well beyond this, though this is a fuckin’ huge problem in its own right.

He has been banned on UGL Talk and other forums for a while.

Glad to hear you’re sorted with a good coach now bro.

glad to see you agreeing trumpy u legend

 

[Django_]

Blokes a danger to his clients, I was one of his longest clients and I had to pull the pin asap. Not only is he dangerous but he’s a huge grub and one of the most selfish people I know. From trying to under cut vendors in their own chats to making fun of his own clients to fit in. Takes 0 accountability for his actions and blames everyone else for being an asshole. I could go on and on about everything else his done but I could guarantee it still wouldn’t get through his skull

 

[GredDoucette11]

Blokes a danger to his clients, I was one of his longest clients and I had to pull the pin asap. Not only is he dangerous but he’s a huge grub and one of the most selfish people I know. From trying to under cut vendors in their own chats to making fun of his own clients to fit in. Takes 0 accountability for his actions and blames everyone else for being an asshole. I could go on and on about everything else his done but I could guarantee it still wouldn’t get through his skull

bloke needs a proper think of his actions.

 

[Trumpy]

glad to see you agreeing trumpy u legend

He tries to poach customers from other vendors, joins their chats and DMs people when they ask about shit. Undercuts the vendors to secure them.

Sells them his own imports and his own shit products.

Forces them onto fucking huge protocols; I would assume to make a buck for himself by selling to his clients.

He uses his disabled clients to steal from the supermarkets, gloated about it in a group chat as though we are scumbags like him and would approve or laugh.

He also lost a tonne of clients and his coaching chat was practically abandoned.

Meanwhile he’s on socials playing the victim of online bullying. It’s wild.

Thankfully we have communities here and over at UGL Talk that don’t condone or permit that type of behaviour.

Men of integrity, not boys of opportunity. Fuck that bloated marshmallow.

 

[IronHQ]

Hi all.

We were not aware of any of this background when SWCC began logging with us several weeks ago. Appreciate the community sharing their concerns & experiences.

Damn, Demon Throne - now this

Our relationship with SWCC ended approx. 1 week ago.

Thanks all for raising awareness amongst the community.

 

[shnagzy]

Just thought I'd take the opportunity to chuck my experience in here as well.

Pretty much signed up at the same time and as I thought I was doing the right thing by seeking out some guidance in a world that was completely unfamiliar to me. Before signing up I had been self prescribing TRT ranging between 125mg to 210mg and never pushed any higher or any other compounds as I had never used anything before and honestly didn't know enough to trust myself.

Signed up with swcc and the first thing he did was bump my test to 400, add in eq and GH. Thinking I was in the right hands I followed along. Eventually at the peak of the growth phase this reached 900 test, 200 eq, 30mg var daily, 8 IU GH and then in "high" days, 50mg anadrol pre workout and 5 iu novo. Now remember, I'd never used anything before and this was an absolute first cycle. To make matters worse I questioned the slin as it freaked me out a little and when asked if there is anything I need to know or worry about I was simply told nope. Although calories were between 25-3000 and carbs were under 300, so the skin was freaking me out.

Moving on a little and we decided that we would cut for 6 weeks before my trip to europe so the cycle changed and went to 400 test, 200 tren, 100eq l, with the intention of adding in winstrol at the end. Yes you read that right tren for a very first cycle. But again as i was new and thought I was doing the right thing by hiring someone to guide and look after me, I followed along.

As Europe was approaching I asked if I should do anything as I would be away nearly a month and was concerned about just completely coming of cycle and travelling while crashing my system. Ofcourse the answer I got was nope you'll be fine. Again I had to reach out for advice elsewhere to keep myself safe.

Luckily for me some of the boys started to have disagreements and leave because it made me question things and from advice I was given from a select few, I decided that I needed to remove myself from the situation as my health was going to end up being a mess. This was especially the case as over the 20ish weeks I wasn't asked to get bloods once, even after bringing it up, or asked to do blood sugar or anything of the sort.

Was coachless for the last 2 weeks before my trip and simply dropped to a trt dose of test and lower cals to cut the best I could on my own. Also decided to use some test u before leaving to try and kit crash even though "I'll be fine". Now in Europe, still coachless and planning on just staying on trt and probably don't my own thing when I get back indefinitely as I have absolutely been scared off coaching and trusting someone else to guide me in the right direction or help look after me.

 

[G8MARC]

Hey boys, i wanted to hop in on the forum and reach out regarding some issues i’ve had and many other people have had regarding my EX coach Swcc @Swcc Coaching, which everyone knows who he is. Just please be aware of who this guy truely is before you sign up with him.



Little back story, I’m fresh 20 years old. i signed up with Swcc Coaaching to get some guidance on a cycle after being on trt for a few years myself and wanted to take things to next level under guidance of a coach, so i obviously saw Swcc physique and hes knowledge and put my trust into the guy. I wanted to show him i was committed and willing to pay him 52 weeks (1 year) upfront to show him im in this fully.



I was on 150mg test E previously, never upped it, Swcc knew that. I joined up with him, he got me blasting 750 test 350 primo 150npp 100 mast 18iu of HGH, 4iu novorapid. Mind you i’m only on 2.4k calories, low carbs. Instead of increasing my food whenever my weight would stabilise- if it did as i was hella watery and weight kept spiking and spiking, he would just keep pushing my doses higher and higher instead of food.



This cycle was 20 odd weeks. Keep in mind, 0 BLOODS were taken (never requested for them). 0 Blood pressure checks were requested or told me to take them. 0 Blood glucose checks too. That’s on 18iu mind u. With using overdosed HGH which is actually 22iu a day, which he knew.



I didn’t know that what i was doing at the time was wrong and the cycles he put me on was wrong. It wasn’t til the fact, 10 other clients left (in space of 2 days) and made me realise what he was actually doing to my health so i decided myself that i have to pull the pin and leave swcc for the better of me as i knew it was the right thing for me leaving me 20 weeks of payments to be refunded ($1700), which Swcc agreed to refund me on, and he didn’t. Instead he decided to block me on every platform possible.

Swcc is a very terrible person.



I am now thankfully with a new coach, under proper guidance and taking all health protocols seriously. Got bloods done and they weren’t exactly healthy at all, that’s what happens when you sign up with Swcc, you get unhealthy. He does not care about health at all.





Feel free to join in on your experiences in the comments.

brother.. someone on 150mg test e, never upped it and he puts you on that blast straight away? 100% a red flag, thats reckless escalation with several independent risks stacked together, no regard to safety. Certainly not something a coach should be doing especially for someone that has only been on 150mg test e.

Enormous jump in androgen exposure
Serious cardiovascular strain
The HGH dose is extreme
Rapid insulin without glucose monitoring is the most immediately dangerous part
GH and insulin were pulling glucose control in opposite directions
Escalating usage because scale weight stalled makes no sense
Twenty-plus weeks compounds the exposure
No monitoring is indefensible

I am glad that you have shared your story brother, health should always come first. Guy should be banned

 

[Grumpy1]

This is very concerning to say the least
A coach should be looking after his clients health not playing God with ridiculous doses of peds we really need to take a look at whats going on here
This should be looked at seriously people lives are at stake
@the_alcatraz
@abolone
@pigsy

 

[biggieyo89]

Man the real question is how u affording all this in ur early 20s

 

[Presk]

Man the real question is how u affording all this in ur early 20s

Hard work brutha

 

[GredDoucette11]

Hard work brutha

only fans

 

[Swcc]

This will be the one and ONLY reply i will put here 1.because you are all misinformed and wont accept the real truth if it smacked you in the face and
2. Because i have better shit to do with my time

Firstly, this so called cycle that mr Greg was supposedly put on by me literally started at a few hundred mgs of test, 100mg of eq and 10 or 20mg a day of npp, the escalations up to what he claims in the end are all of his own doing and choice "oh i can get 36iu gh from so and so can i run 18iu please"

I never threw drugs at him and no his food never went up once because the kid gained 20kg over 20 weeks with no need to, his androgen escalations purely and simply all requested by him, could i have said "no greg" sure, but this lying little fucker (who has been refunded by the way) was adamant on going higher and higher, so he could "fit in" with the older more experienced guys

Constantly gloating too about his importation of peptides and gear the whole time, and how he wanted to have a stockpile large enough he could blast gh for decades, so stop pointing the finger greg and take some responsibility for your own fucking decisions

Another point, you claim i had a whole bunch of client leave me in a feww days? Correct 6 or 7? All of who mainly your buddies, which by the way i have replaced and found much more genuine clients, so dont stress about me mate, worry about yourself, and lastly all my clients are requested by me to get bloodwork, dont bullshit, we pulled bloods atleast twice with you you liar

What else? OH "i didnt know what i was doing" what a load of fucking horseshit mate, you know more about peds than most, so dont play victim here

Another point, go ask any of my other clients who arent braindead their doseages, rarely anyone was over a gram total, and were never forced to take anything, and bloods every 4-6 weeks, all health pharma in their protocol, cardio prescribed, clean diets, supplements to support health, the lot

I find this witchhunt quite contradicting as when i coached the 6 or so guys who left they all LOVED the progress they were making and how much attention to detail i provided, this thread right here is a perfect example of MOB MENTALITY and everything either spun in a way to make me look bad OR taken out of context

Im a human, i make mistakes, i can own up to perhaps not pushinng back harder when a client wanted to explore higher doseages sure, but im also not stupid, id never get a client to do something I HAVENT DONE.

So instead of this being some big witch hunt and it just being he said she said, why dont any of you ASK ME a question about any of these claims and you can have my honest and written out explanantion? Cmon, be men for once and show some civilisation

Act your age and turn what is apparentlt some big negative thread into something positive, bodybuilding can be so toxic and you dont have to be part of the problem

I loved coaching each and every one of my clients and my passion for this is unmatched, anyone would agree if they know me

So cmon? What do i eloborate on? Otherwise if youre just going to make a misleading hate thread fine, but if you want answers then ask, i think youll find this drama is nothing like it seems

 

[GredDoucette11]

This will be the one and ONLY reply i will put here 1.because you are all misinformed and wont accept the real truth if it smacked you in the face and
2. Because i have better shit to do with my time

Firstly, this so called cycle that mr Greg was supposedly put on by me literally started at a few hundred mgs of test, 100mg of eq and 10 or 20mg a day of npp, the escalations up to what he claims in the end are all of his own doing and choice "oh i can get 36iu gh from so and so can i run 18iu please"

I never threw drugs at him and no his food never went up once because the kid gained 20kg over 20 weeks with no need to, his androgen escalations purely and simply all requested by him, could i have said "no greg" sure, but this lying little fucker (who has been refunded by the way) was adamant on going higher and higher, so he could "fit in" with the older more experienced guys

Constantly gloating too about his importation of peptides and gear the whole time, and how he wanted to have a stockpile large enough he could blast gh for decades, so stop pointing the finger greg and take some responsibility for your own fucking decisions

Another point, you claim i had a whole bunch of client leave me in a feww days? Correct 6 or 7? All of who mainly your buddies, which by the way i have replaced and found much more genuine clients, so dont stress about me mate, worry about yourself, and lastly all my clients are requested by me to get bloodwork, dont bullshit, we pulled bloods atleast twice with you you liar

What else? OH "i didnt know what i was doing" what a load of fucking horseshit mate, you know more about peds than most, so dont play victim here

Another point, go ask any of my other clients who arent braindead their doseages, rarely anyone was over a gram total, and were never forced to take anything, and bloods every 4-6 weeks, all health pharma in their protocol, cardio prescribed, clean diets, supplements to support health, the lot

I find this witchhunt quite contradicting as when i coached the 6 or so guys who left they all LOVED the progress they were making and how much attention to detail i provided, this thread right here is a perfect example of MOB MENTALITY and everything either spun in a way to make me look bad OR taken out of context

Im a human, i make mistakes, i can own up to perhaps not pushinng back harder when a client wanted to explore higher doseages sure, but im also not stupid, id never get a client to do something I HAVENT DONE.

So instead of this being some big witch hunt and it just being he said she said, why dont any of you ASK ME a question about any of these claims and you can have my honest and written out explanantion? Cmon, be men for once and show some civilisation

Act your age and turn what is apparentlt some big negative thread into something positive, bodybuilding can be so toxic and you dont have to be part of the problem

I loved coaching each and every one of my clients and my passion for this is unmatched, anyone would agree if they know me

So cmon? What do i eloborate on? Otherwise if youre just going to make a misleading hate thread fine, but if you want answers then ask, i think youll find this drama is nothing like it seems

wasn’t even on EQ so clearly have no fkn clue what u have your clients on. And actually no, i never said anything about going to 18iu hgh. I just came back from Japan, and you said on the check in, let’s go to 18iu HGH, which your MY COACH, U THROW THE PLAN AT ME, I FOLLOW IT!. Don’t be fucking blaming your clients fuckwit. There’s a reason you’re banned on all forums. Despite what stock i have or not. None of your business dickhead so don’t be playing those games. And who are you lying to. Not a single blood test was taken at all, not a single blood glucose was taken at all, not even a single BP monitoring was requested.

 

[Django_]

Time and time again you refuse to take accountability. Never done anything wrong but have been banned on forums and vendors chats, you’re pathetic and down right delusional. “My clients never go above one gram” utter garbage. Full of shit loser. Everyone who’s met you, can’t stand you. You do it to yourself and then play victim. Grow up mate, me and so many other clients who were so close to you left you because of your actions and you’re still denying the fact it was you. You’re mentally unwell and one of the most selfish blokes I know.

 

[Django_]

And another thing, stop saying everyone is mis leading and lying to tarnish your name. You do it to yourself champion. Countless times blaming vendors gear for your shitty jabs. I’ve never met someone who is in denial so much about their shitty behaviour than you. You’re a psychopath

 

[Trumpy]

This will be the one and ONLY reply i will put here 1.because you are all misinformed and wont accept the real truth if it smacked you in the face and
2. Because i have better shit to do with my time

Firstly, this so called cycle that mr Greg was supposedly put on by me literally started at a few hundred mgs of test, 100mg of eq and 10 or 20mg a day of npp, the escalations up to what he claims in the end are all of his own doing and choice "oh i can get 36iu gh from so and so can i run 18iu please"

I never threw drugs at him and no his food never went up once because the kid gained 20kg over 20 weeks with no need to, his androgen escalations purely and simply all requested by him, could i have said "no greg" sure, but this lying little fucker (who has been refunded by the way) was adamant on going higher and higher, so he could "fit in" with the older more experienced guys

Constantly gloating too about his importation of peptides and gear the whole time, and how he wanted to have a stockpile large enough he could blast gh for decades, so stop pointing the finger greg and take some responsibility for your own fucking decisions

Another point, you claim i had a whole bunch of client leave me in a feww days? Correct 6 or 7? All of who mainly your buddies, which by the way i have replaced and found much more genuine clients, so dont stress about me mate, worry about yourself, and lastly all my clients are requested by me to get bloodwork, dont bullshit, we pulled bloods atleast twice with you you liar

What else? OH "i didnt know what i was doing" what a load of fucking horseshit mate, you know more about peds than most, so dont play victim here

Another point, go ask any of my other clients who arent braindead their doseages, rarely anyone was over a gram total, and were never forced to take anything, and bloods every 4-6 weeks, all health pharma in their protocol, cardio prescribed, clean diets, supplements to support health, the lot

I find this witchhunt quite contradicting as when i coached the 6 or so guys who left they all LOVED the progress they were making and how much attention to detail i provided, this thread right here is a perfect example of MOB MENTALITY and everything either spun in a way to make me look bad OR taken out of context

Im a human, i make mistakes, i can own up to perhaps not pushinng back harder when a client wanted to explore higher doseages sure, but im also not stupid, id never get a client to do something I HAVENT DONE.

So instead of this being some big witch hunt and it just being he said she said, why dont any of you ASK ME a question about any of these claims and you can have my honest and written out explanantion? Cmon, be men for once and show some civilisation

Act your age and turn what is apparentlt some big negative thread into something positive, bodybuilding can be so toxic and you dont have to be part of the problem

I loved coaching each and every one of my clients and my passion for this is unmatched, anyone would agree if they know me

So cmon? What do i eloborate on? Otherwise if youre just going to make a misleading hate thread fine, but if you want answers then ask, i think youll find this drama is nothing like it seems

 

[GredDoucette11]

I make my clients get bloods every 4-6 weeks, go ask them” okay bet

 

[iDreamofHenry]

This will be the one and ONLY reply i will put here 1.because you are all misinformed and wont accept the real truth if it smacked you in the face and
2. Because i have better shit to do with my time

Firstly, this so called cycle that mr Greg was supposedly put on by me literally started at a few hundred mgs of test, 100mg of eq and 10 or 20mg a day of npp, the escalations up to what he claims in the end are all of his own doing and choice "oh i can get 36iu gh from so and so can i run 18iu please"

I never threw drugs at him and no his food never went up once because the kid gained 20kg over 20 weeks with no need to, his androgen escalations purely and simply all requested by him, could i have said "no greg" sure, but this lying little fucker (who has been refunded by the way) was adamant on going higher and higher, so he could "fit in" with the older more experienced guys

Constantly gloating too about his importation of peptides and gear the whole time, and how he wanted to have a stockpile large enough he could blast gh for decades, so stop pointing the finger greg and take some responsibility for your own fucking decisions

Another point, you claim i had a whole bunch of client leave me in a feww days? Correct 6 or 7? All of who mainly your buddies, which by the way i have replaced and found much more genuine clients, so dont stress about me mate, worry about yourself, and lastly all my clients are requested by me to get bloodwork, dont bullshit, we pulled bloods atleast twice with you you liar

What else? OH "i didnt know what i was doing" what a load of fucking horseshit mate, you know more about peds than most, so dont play victim here

Another point, go ask any of my other clients who arent braindead their doseages, rarely anyone was over a gram total, and were never forced to take anything, and bloods every 4-6 weeks, all health pharma in their protocol, cardio prescribed, clean diets, supplements to support health, the lot

I find this witchhunt quite contradicting as when i coached the 6 or so guys who left they all LOVED the progress they were making and how much attention to detail i provided, this thread right here is a perfect example of MOB MENTALITY and everything either spun in a way to make me look bad OR taken out of context

Im a human, i make mistakes, i can own up to perhaps not pushinng back harder when a client wanted to explore higher doseages sure, but im also not stupid, id never get a client to do something I HAVENT DONE.

So instead of this being some big witch hunt and it just being he said she said, why dont any of you ASK ME a question about any of these claims and you can have my honest and written out explanantion? Cmon, be men for once and show some civilisation

Act your age and turn what is apparentlt some big negative thread into something positive, bodybuilding can be so toxic and you dont have to be part of the problem

I loved coaching each and every one of my clients and my passion for this is unmatched, anyone would agree if they know me

So cmon? What do i eloborate on? Otherwise if youre just going to make a misleading hate thread fine, but if you want answers then ask, i think youll find this drama is nothing like it seems

Holy fuck you're gay

 

[Trumpy]

This will be the one and ONLY reply i will put here 1.because you are all misinformed and wont accept the real truth if it smacked you in the face and
2. Because i have better shit to do with my time

Firstly, this so called cycle that mr Greg was supposedly put on by me literally started at a few hundred mgs of test, 100mg of eq and 10 or 20mg a day of npp, the escalations up to what he claims in the end are all of his own doing and choice "oh i can get 36iu gh from so and so can i run 18iu please"

I never threw drugs at him and no his food never went up once because the kid gained 20kg over 20 weeks with no need to, his androgen escalations purely and simply all requested by him, could i have said "no greg" sure, but this lying little fucker (who has been refunded by the way) was adamant on going higher and higher, so he could "fit in" with the older more experienced guys

Constantly gloating too about his importation of peptides and gear the whole time, and how he wanted to have a stockpile large enough he could blast gh for decades, so stop pointing the finger greg and take some responsibility for your own fucking decisions

Another point, you claim i had a whole bunch of client leave me in a feww days? Correct 6 or 7? All of who mainly your buddies, which by the way i have replaced and found much more genuine clients, so dont stress about me mate, worry about yourself, and lastly all my clients are requested by me to get bloodwork, dont bullshit, we pulled bloods atleast twice with you you liar

What else? OH "i didnt know what i was doing" what a load of fucking horseshit mate, you know more about peds than most, so dont play victim here

Another point, go ask any of my other clients who arent braindead their doseages, rarely anyone was over a gram total, and were never forced to take anything, and bloods every 4-6 weeks, all health pharma in their protocol, cardio prescribed, clean diets, supplements to support health, the lot

I find this witchhunt quite contradicting as when i coached the 6 or so guys who left they all LOVED the progress they were making and how much attention to detail i provided, this thread right here is a perfect example of MOB MENTALITY and everything either spun in a way to make me look bad OR taken out of context

Im a human, i make mistakes, i can own up to perhaps not pushinng back harder when a client wanted to explore higher doseages sure, but im also not stupid, id never get a client to do something I HAVENT DONE.

So instead of this being some big witch hunt and it just being he said she said, why dont any of you ASK ME a question about any of these claims and you can have my honest and written out explanantion? Cmon, be men for once and show some civilisation

Act your age and turn what is apparentlt some big negative thread into something positive, bodybuilding can be so toxic and you dont have to be part of the problem

I loved coaching each and every one of my clients and my passion for this is unmatched, anyone would agree if they know me

So cmon? What do i eloborate on? Otherwise if youre just going to make a misleading hate thread fine, but if you want answers then ask, i think youll find this drama is nothing like it seems

A man who has done no wrong doesn’t begin their rebuttal with “I’ll reply once, but that’s it.” That’s a man who fears scrutiny, and to that extent, my reply is going to fall on deaf ears.

If it was the case that it was the community who couldn’t accept the truth, then it shouldn’t be the community providing screenshots of the truth. It should be the reverse.

As for having better things to do, what might that be? Your business is online. The reputation you’ve destroyed is online. The medium through which you repair that, assuming you could, is online.

If it was a few people with frivolous complaints, it wouldn’t be taken seriously, but it is a LOT of people with similar stories describing what I and others alluded to earlier.

You know you tried to undercut Alpha and his vendors, and likely others elsewhere.

You know you stole from supermarkets using disabled clients’ wheelchairs.

You know you did everything you’ve been accused of, but you can’t answer to it because to do so would be to admit you fucked up massively and that you lack integrity. You are not a man who can hold himself accountable, that much has been made abundantly clear.

You weren’t going to refund Greg until a third party intervened. How many others have you ripped off?

Instead of trying to gaslight the community, log off, go home, have a cold shower and take a long, sobering look at yourself. The problem is not the community.

 

[Swcc]

I make my clients get bloods every 4-6 weeks, go ask them” okay betView attachment 182530

Thats a lie, we did pull bloods. Perfect ezample
Again of. Withchunt

 

[iDreamofHenry]

A man who has done no wrong doesn’t begin their rebuttal with “I’ll reply once, but that’s it.” That’s a man who fears scrutiny, and to that extent, my reply is going to fall on deaf ears.

If it was the case that it was the community who couldn’t accept the truth, then it shouldn’t be the community providing screenshots of the truth. It should be the reverse.

As for having better things to do, what might that be? Your business is online. The reputation you’ve destroyed is online. The medium through which you repair that, assuming you could, is online.

If it was a few people with frivolous complaints, it wouldn’t be taken seriously, but it is a LOT of people with similar stories describing what I and others alluded to earlier.

You know you tried to undercut Alpha and his vendors, and likely others elsewhere.

You know you stole from supermarkets using disabled clients’ wheelchairs.

You know you did everything you’ve been accused of, but you can’t answer to it because to do so would be to admit you fucked up massively and that you lack integrity. You are not a man who can hold himself accountable, that much has been made abundantly clear.

You weren’t going to refund Greg until a third party intervened. How many others have you ripped off?

Instead of trying to gaslight the community, log off, go home, have a cold shower and take a long, sobering look at yourself. The problem is not the community.

He keeps denying it like we don't have all the screenshots, he's so dumb its infuriating

 

[GredDoucette11]

Thats a lie, we did pull bloods. Perfect ezample
Again of. Withchunt

 

[Swcc]

Holy fuck you're gay

Its okay i dont take offence from people
Doing worse than me in life but thankyou

 

[OwEv751]

Would you have more chat snapshots to share @GredDoucette11 ? Let's lay them all out so it's clear as day.

 

[iDreamofHenry]

Thats a lie, we did pull bloods. Perfect ezample
Again of. Withchunt

Everyone lies but you, you're reputation and business is finished, you're finished. ill give you a job as my labourer on site, you can come be the site bitch

 

[Swcc]

View attachment 182532

Another lie, he bought them because they were "a good deal" at the time, see where this is going? Nowhere, noones going to let the truth get in the way of a good story

 

[Swcc]

Everyone lies but you, you're reputation and business is finished, you're finished. ill give you a job as my labourer on site, you can come be the site bitch

Far from it actually, coaching is busier than ever, but thankyou

 

[iDreamofHenry]

Its okay i dont take offence from people
Doing worse than me in

Its okay i dont take offence from people
Doing worse than me in life but thankyou

You will care when i come see you on Hague Street maggot

 

[Swcc]

You will care when i come see you on Hague Street maggot

Welcome any time you sook

 

[iDreamofHenry]

only if you knew

 

[Swcc]

only if you knew

Dont care too, more important things going on in my life, but hey if you want to illegally trespass then have at it, smile for the cameras

 

[iDreamofHenry]

Welcome any

Dont care too, more important things going on in my life, but hey if you want to illegally trespass then have at it, smile for the cameras

You just invited me in writing you dumb cunt, so I will be seeing you soon, just like you said I could

 

[Swcc]

You just invited me in writing you dumb cunt, so I will be seeing you soon, just like you said I could

Invited you to illegally trespass? Bro your fried learn to read, anyways im off, enjoy your night sooky

 

[iDreamofHenry]

Im fried? Cunt you've scammed your clients, you steal customers from vendors, im gonna bounce your dumb head off the pavement and then I'll post the video for everyone to see ash

 

[Allupfromhere]

View attachment 182528

Broooook i have only just recomposed myself since last time this popped up

 

[Django_]

Another lie, he bought them because they were "a good deal" at the time, see where this is going? Nowhere, noones going to let the truth get in the way of a good story

Mate, the whole ugl community across the forums have you banned or almost banned, the community vendor chats have you blocked and banned, you’re welcome nowhere, you claimed sassys gear blew your leg up because of his gear being poor quality and not a poor quality pin. You genuinely are so unwell I’m concerned. I’ve never met a more compulsive person than you. Are you going to deny having your disabled clients steal for you while shopping, deny putting clients on fuck all calories on slin, you lied about your clients being on less than 1g of gear? I just truly don’t understand why you can’t take some responsibility for your actions? You are truly delusional. You’re a dangerous human. You’re gonna kill someone with your stupidity

 

[pigsy]

This is very concerning to say the least
A coach should be looking after his clients health not playing God with ridiculous doses of peds we really need to take a look at whats going on here
This should be looked at seriously people lives are at stake
@the_alcatraz
@abolone
@pigsy

Agree very concerning and dangerous

 

[GredDoucette11]

Agree very concerning and dangerous

what about the client who joined swcc with a serious heart condition such as heart failure, with swcc knowing that, bloke just wanted to simply loose weight but pushed him on heavy asf doses and he left swcc that week. @Trumpy can verify this

 

[Swcc]

what about the client who joined swcc with a serious heart condition such as heart failure, with swcc knowing that, bloke just wanted to simply loose weight but pushed him on heavy asf doses and he left swcc that week. @Trumpy can verify this

I keep hearing this and am yet to understand who the hell you are talking about? When did i push a massive cycle on someone with heart failure? Show me the evidence because clearly i have 0 idea who the hell you are even on aboit

 

[Swcc]

Mate, the whole ugl community across the forums have you banned or almost banned, the community vendor chats have you blocked and banned, you’re welcome nowhere, you claimed sassys gear blew your leg up because of his gear being poor quality and not a poor quality pin. You genuinely are so unwell I’m concerned. I’ve never met a more compulsive person than you. Are you going to deny having your disabled clients steal for you while shopping, deny putting clients on fuck all calories on slin, you lied about your clients being on less than 1g of gear? I just truly don’t understand why you can’t take some responsibility for your actions? You are truly delusional. You’re a dangerous human. You’re gonna kill someone with your stupidity

Brother i think the one who needs psychiatric evaluation is you, i always supported you and called you when i knew you were struggling, but now for your own good, seek professional help please

 

[Django_]

Brother i think the one who needs psychiatric evaluation is you, i always supported you and called you when i knew you were struggling, but now for your own good, seek professional help please

Fuck up cunt, to say I need psychiatric evaluation. You’re a straight up maggot. You need rehab mate, time to stop popping a handful of opioids before bedtime buddy

 

[GredDoucette11]

Fuck up cunt, to say I need psychiatric evaluation. You’re a straight up maggot. You need rehab mate, time to stop popping a handful of opioids before bedtime buddy

even a wild thing to say to a ex client ay. to say to a client that needs evaluation… True blues

 

[abolone]

@Swcc should have been banned from this platform a month ago @the_alcatraz

Im not here to destroy anyones business or bad mouth anyone. Im here solely because I care about the communities health, safety..

I raised these concerns privately with higher up mod and was ignored. Unfortunately, what should have remained a private matter has now become a public one putting @Swcc in the spotlight.

The constant refusal to accept responsibility is wild bro
He has the belief that everyone who criticises him has an ulterior motive. You need to take a serious look at yourself bro

You have ZERO professionalism and accountability, its not just my perspective its everyones from which ever forum the view remains the same. You are completely unsuitable to present yourself as a MENTOR yet alone a coach brooooo come on turn youtube off you ain't got no degree man...you winging it big time

Take responsibility for your actions, acknowledge where you have gone wrong, and use it as a opportunity to improve. I genuinely wish you the best

 

[Swcc]

even a wild thing to say to a ex client ay. to say to a client that needs evaluation… True blues

Are you retarted? Youve literally done nothing but talk absolute shit abiut me the past month but ohhh heaven forbid i stick up for myself, you certainly act your age thats for sure

 

[Trumpy]

A man who has done no wrong doesn’t begin their rebuttal with “I’ll reply once, but that’s it.” That’s a man who fears scrutiny, and to that extent, my reply is going to fall on deaf ears.

If it was the case that it was the community who couldn’t accept the truth, then it shouldn’t be the community providing screenshots of the truth. It should be the reverse.

As for having better things to do, what might that be? Your business is online. The reputation you’ve destroyed is online. The medium through which you repair that, assuming you could, is online.

If it was a few people with frivolous complaints, it wouldn’t be taken seriously, but it is a LOT of people with similar stories describing what I and others alluded to earlier.

You know you tried to undercut Alpha and his vendors, and likely others elsewhere.

You know you stole from supermarkets using disabled clients’ wheelchairs.

You know you did everything you’ve been accused of, but you can’t answer to it because to do so would be to admit you fucked up massively and that you lack integrity. You are not a man who can hold himself accountable, that much has been made abundantly clear.

You weren’t going to refund Greg until a third party intervened. How many others have you ripped off?

Instead of trying to gaslight the community, log off, go home, have a cold shower and take a long, sobering look at yourself. The problem is not the community.

Bro’s pretending he didn’t read this

 

[Concubine]

Sorry to be the devils advocate here, but why do people blindly go to a coach knowing sweet fucking fanny Adam’s about PEDS and do what they say.

“Bloods weren’t asked for” why did it take so long for you to spark an impulse with what little brain cells you have to independently conclude this is a requirement

You blindly followed

“Had me blasting” and you know blasting may not be the right protocol but you did it anyway

You blindly followed

Seeing the trend here? Take responsibility of your actions. He may given some questionable advice, which will be tailored from what you as a client want out of the coaching.

This is just a dumb fucking 20 year old tik tok clown doing stupid shit being backed up by level headed junkies that can’t fathom the problems in their lives are that of their own.

 

[Swcc]

@Swcc should have been banned from this platform a month ago @the_alcatraz

Im not here to destroy anyones business or bad mouth anyone. Im here solely because I care about the communities health, safety..

I raised these concerns privately with higher up mod and was ignored. Unfortunately, what should have remained a private matter has now become a public one putting @Swcc in the spotlight.

The constant refusal to accept responsibility is wild bro
He has the belief that everyone who criticises him has an ulterior motive. You need to take a serious look at yourself bro

You have ZERO professionalism and accountability, its not just my perspective its everyones from which ever forum the view remains the same. You are completely unsuitable to present yourself as a MENTOR yet alone a coach brooooo come on turn youtube off you ain't got no degree man...you winging it big time

Take responsibility for your actions, acknowledge where you have gone wrong, and use it as a opportunity to improve. I genuinely wish you the best

You of all know people know i know my shit, so say what you want and continue hating me i dont care, but you have all taken this way too far making it a public matter, wish you the best also

 

[Swcc]

Fuck up cunt, to say I need psychiatric evaluation. You’re a straight up maggot. You need rehab mate, time to stop popping a handful of opioids before bedtime buddy

Sorry bud but i dont do recs, i actually live the bodybuilding lifestyle unlike you guys who cant go a week without a cheat meal, best wishes to you mr Django

 

[Trumpy]

Sorry to be the devils advocate here, but why do people blindly go to a coach knowing sweet fucking fanny Adam’s about PEDS and do what they say.

“Bloods weren’t asked for” why did it take so long for you to spark an impulse with what little brain cells you have to independently conclude this is a requirement

You blindly followed

“Had me blasting” and you know blasting may not be the right protocol but you did it anyway

You blindly followed

Seeing the trend here? Take responsibility of your actions. He may given some questionable advice, which will be tailored from what you as a client want out of the coaching.

This is just a dumb fucking 20 year old tik tok clown doing stupid shit being backed up by level headed junkies that can’t fathom the problems in their lives are that of their own.

I don’t fault 20 year olds for not knowing what to do, when to do it or what not to do.

They get a coach to follow instructions and avoid complications; success without the volume of trial and error.

 

[GredDoucette11]

Sorry to be the devils advocate here, but why do people blindly go to a coach knowing sweet fucking fanny Adam’s about PEDS and do what they say.

“Bloods weren’t asked for” why did it take so long for you to spark an impulse with what little brain cells you have to independently conclude this is a requirement

You blindly followed

“Had me blasting” and you know blasting may not be the right protocol but you did it anyway

You blindly followed

Seeing the trend here? Take responsibility of your actions. He may given some questionable advice, which will be tailored from what you as a client want out of the coaching.

This is just a dumb fucking 20 year old tik tok clown doing stupid shit being backed up by level headed junkies that can’t fathom the problems in their lives are that of their own.

not the point, he’s the coach. Paying him to look after clients health, protocols ect. I’m the client, he’s the coach. You follow what the coaches say. Sure i should have done it myself, but for a so called “coach” he should of atleast be requesting it.

 

[abolone]

You of all know people know i know my shit, so say what you want and continue hating me i dont care, but you have all taken this way too far making it a public matter, wish you the best also

There's no hatred here you fool.

 

[Swcc]

Sorry to be the devils advocate here, but why do people blindly go to a coach knowing sweet fucking fanny Adam’s about PEDS and do what they say.

“Bloods weren’t asked for” why did it take so long for you to spark an impulse with what little brain cells you have to independently conclude this is a requirement

You blindly followed

“Had me blasting” and you know blasting may not be the right protocol but you did it anyway

You blindly followed

Seeing the trend here? Take responsibility of your actions. He may given some questionable advice, which will be tailored from what you as a client want out of the coaching.

This is just a dumb fucking 20 year old tik tok clown doing stupid shit being backed up by level headed junkies that can’t fathom the problems in their lives are that of their own.

Finally someone using their brain and talking sense

 

[Swcc]

There's no hatred here you fool.

Right so getting constant threats and no caller id calls isnt hate? Gotcha

 

[Django_]

Sorry bud but i dont do recs, i actually live the bodybuilding lifestyle unlike you guys who cant go a week without a cheat meal, best wishes to you mr Django

So you don’t take a handful of opioids and THC every night before bed? Typical junky behaviour, always in denial.

 

[Trumpy]

Finally someone using their brain and talking sense

Someone using his brain?

Bro, his criticism is that Greg blindly followed YOUR advice

 

[Concubine]

Swcc, there’s no doubt you may have some responsibility in this, people don’t tend to respond this way without some justification, but it looks like there may have been an isolated incident or two which has turned into groupthink gang mentality. I hope you walk away from this with some reflection and lessons learned.

The rest of those involved need to pull their heads in, threats of violence and petty responses is exactly what gives this wonderful community such a bad wrap. Be the change you want to see, not dumb fucking meathead idiots.

 

[Swcc]

So you don’t take a handful of opioids and THC every night before bed? Typical junky behaviour, always in denial.

No i dont actually, have i used edibles before? Yes, have i used opioids before? Yes is it a habit? No, how do you think i am abled to do what i do and progress as a bodybuilder doing all that shit? Use our head mate, and have some facts in your rebuttals for once

 

[GredDoucette11]

Swcc, there’s no doubt you may have some responsibility in this, people don’t tend to respond this way without some justification, but it looks like there may have been an isolated incident or two which has turned into groupthink gang mentality. I hope you walk away from this with some reflection and lessons learned.

The rest of those involved need to pull their heads in, threats of violence and petty responses is exactly what gives this wonderful community such a bad wrap. Be the change you want to see, not dumb fucking meathead idiots.

no threats were actioned at all on our behalf, But when you are in a ugl vendors chat and privately DM ppl saying you will sell them stuff cheaper then that vendor. Expect shit to happen.

 

[Trumpy]

Swcc, there’s no doubt you may have some responsibility in this, people don’t tend to respond this way without some justification, but it looks like there may have been an isolated incident or two which has turned into groupthink gang mentality. I hope you walk away from this with some reflection and lessons learned.

The rest of those involved need to pull their heads in, threats of violence and petty responses is exactly what gives this wonderful community such a bad wrap. Be the change you want to see, not dumb fucking meathead idiots.

You’re incorrect mate. This isn’t one or two isolated incidents.

He isn’t banned practically everywhere for one or two issues, and it’s certainly not a consequence of group think or bandwagoning.

Playing devil’s advocate is fine, but it needs to make sense

 

[Concubine]

Someone using his brain?

Bro, his criticism is that Greg blindly followed YOUR advice

It’s a double edged sword of a criticism, I’ve come in fucking swinging I know but I just think everyone needs to realise, everyone is a fucking idiot here and move on.

 

[Swcc]

Swcc, there’s no doubt you may have some responsibility in this, people don’t tend to respond this way without some justification, but it looks like there may have been an isolated incident or two which has turned into groupthink gang mentality. I hope you walk away from this with some reflection and lessons learned.

The rest of those involved need to pull their heads in, threats of violence and petty responses is exactly what gives this wonderful community such a bad wrap. Be the change you want to see, not dumb fucking meathead idiots.

Above in my response i acknowledged i could have pushed back more when they all wanted more drugs, they wont admit but in the group chat i had and even privately id constantly tell them too stop the obsession with taking more shit, noone wants to admit this because its funner to all gang up one someone when the topics hot

And dont you worry my lesson has been learned, and i think these guys need to stop throwing fuel on the fire here, theyve parted ways, got their money back, and ive ignored them for the last month yet they insist on still going, they need to just go focus on thier own bodybuilding goals and lives because escalating this to personal attacks online and threatening assault is way overboard

 

[Trumpy]

It’s a double edged sword of a criticism, I’ve come in fucking swinging I know but I just think everyone needs to realise, everyone is a fucking idiot here and move on.

That would be fair if the issues were academic or administrative, but they aren’t.

He steals, rips people off, pushes dangerous cycles, undercuts vendors, poaches customers, and more.

A bit of perspective mate. I can understand wanting to squash a shitstorm though

 

[Concubine]

no threats were actioned at all on our behalf, But when you are in a ugl vendors chat and privately DM ppl saying you will sell them stuff cheaper then that vendor. Expect shit to happen.View attachment 182546

So what? Business is dog eat dog and businessmen tailor their businesses to market needs. You’re the market and you showed interest.

If you think this is a problem, stop being the market that forces businesses to drive down their prices by buying into undercut pricing.

 

[Trumpy]

Someone using his brain?

Bro, his criticism is that Greg blindly followed YOUR advice

Notice how SWCC specifically and only dodges my replies I smell fear.

 

[Swcc]

You’re incorrect mate. This isn’t one or two isolated incidents.

He isn’t banned practically everywhere for one or two issues, and it’s certainly not a consequence of group think or bandwagoning.

Playing devil’s advocate is fine, but it needs to make sense

"Banned practically everywhere" oh no im banned from a few tele chats thats sole purpouse this last month has been to try mess with me, ill never not laugh at how dramatised how supposedly grown men can act so childish

 

[Swcc]

Notice how SWCC specifically and only dodges my replies I smell fear.

No im not dodging them, 3 or 4 more replies come up before i even notice yours, what would you like for me to acknowledge from what youve said?

 

[Trumpy]

So what? Business is dog eat dog and businessmen tailor their businesses to market needs. You’re the market and you showed interest.

If you think this is a problem, stop being the market that forces businesses to drive down their prices by buying into undercut pricing.

That’s nonsense mate.

I genuinely don’t understand why you’re defending his conduct so adamantly.

Participating in undercutting is a two way street, but it starts with the vendor. No forum tolerates underhanded tactics.

 

[Trumpy]

No im not dodging them, 3 or 4 more replies come up before i even notice yours, what would you like for me to acknowledge from what youve said?

You’re dodging them bro, that’s why you aren’t specifically replying to them lol

 

[Swcc]

That would be fair if the issues were academic or administrative, but they aren’t.

He steals, rips people off, pushes dangerous cycles, undercuts vendors, poaches customers, and more.

A bit of perspective mate. I can understand wanting to squash a shitstorm though

Then squash it? You think i want to waste any more time with this? Far from it, im happy to walk away, but if im being accused of things im going to defend myself, thats my right

 

[Trumpy]

"Banned practically everywhere" oh no im banned from a few tele chats thats sole purpouse this last month has been to try mess with me, ill never not laugh at how dramatised how supposedly grown men can act so childish

See how you cry victim constantly? This is pathetic.

You were banned for poaching, amongst other things. You’re banned from multiple forums too.

Notice how you still haven’t replied to my original comments

 

[Swcc]

You’re dodging them bro, that’s why you aren’t specifically replying to them lol

No im not dodging them, what do you want me to say? Ask away?

 

[Swcc]

See how you cry victim constantly? This is pathetic.

You were banned for poaching, amongst other things. You’re banned from multiple forums too.

Notice how you still haven’t replied to my original comments

They arent showing for me, what comments? Qoute them and ill reply in one message

 

[Concubine]

That’s nonsense mate.

I genuinely don’t understand why you’re defending his conduct so adamantly.

Participating in undercutting is a two way street, but it starts with the vendor. No forum tolerates underhanded tactics.

Because it’s the world we live in, everyone has someone else to blame and can’t take responsibility for their own actions.

You’re dabbling in illegal substances but want everyone to follow the “rules” haha come on guys don’t be so naive

 

[Trumpy]

They arent showing for me, what comments? Qoute them and ill reply in one message

They are showing. It’s fine bro. You do you. My point was made.

Your lack of accountability is fucking bonkers bro. Absolutely bonkers. You could have handled all of this so much better months ago.

 

[Trumpy]

Because it’s the world we live in, everyone has someone else to blame and can’t take responsibility for their own actions.

You’re dabbling in illegal substances but want everyone to follow the “rules” haha come on guys don’t be so naive

You’re evidently not a serious person, respectfully.

 

[GredDoucette11]

Because it’s the world we live in, everyone has someone else to blame and can’t take responsibility for their own actions.

You’re dabbling in illegal substances but want everyone to follow the “rules” haha come on guys don’t be so naive

u joined 30mins ago, are you swcc alt LMAOAOA

 

[Swcc]

They are showing. It’s fine bro. You do you. My point was made.

Your lack of accountability is fucking bonkers bro. Absolutely bonkers. You could have handled all of this so much better months ago.

Handled what? One client leaving and being upset because i said he couldnt remain in my group chat? Then him doing everything jn his might to try mess with me? You cant reason with immaturity, ive tried

 

[Swcc]

u joined 30mins ago, are you swcc alt LMAOAOA

Says the guy with two phones....

 

[Trumpy]

u joined 30mins ago, are you swcc alt LMAOAOA

We transact in UGL spaces so therefore there are no rules, no expectations, no ethics, and any complaints regarding rules, expectations and ethics are naive. Forums definitely don’t have rules. Group chats definitely don’t have rules. Enforcing rules is naive.

Devil’s advocate, more like low resolution deflections.

 

[GredDoucette11]

Says the guy with two phones....

nothing wrong with that

 

[Trumpy]

Handled what? One client leaving and being upset because i said he couldnt remain in my group chat? Then him doing everything jn his might to try mess with me? You cant reason with immaturity, ive tried

Sure bro, you’re a lost cause. Zero accountability.

Why the fuck do you use disabled clients to steal from the supermarket? Answer that one.

 

[LVTN]

"Banned practically everywhere" oh no im banned from a few tele chats thats sole purpouse this last month has been to try mess with me, ill never not laugh at how dramatised how supposedly grown men can act so childish

You’re banned from every gym you’ve ever trained at except the shit one you train at now as a last resort. You’re banned from literally every telegram chat for scamming people and under cutting vendors. This is the only forum you’re not banned from. All your past clients hate you and the way you treated them. The fact that you still think this is some ‘mob mentality’ bs and not the consequences of you being a complete shit cunt is amazing. But you’re a really good guy and it’s everyone else’s fault right, you’re not the problem? You’re fucken blind, take some accountability for once in your life

 

[Swcc]

nothing wrong with that

No thats fine but i dont have an alt, look greg, you got your money, a new coach you said your thrillled with, why cant you and the rest just bury it, we all have better things to be doing and i certainly am tired of it all, so end this shit so we can go back to living our own lives

 

[GredDoucette11]

No thats fine but i dont have an alt, look greg, you got your money, a new coach you said your thrillled with, why cant you and the rest just bury it, we all have better things to be doing and i certainly am tired of it all, so end this shit so we can go back to living our own lives

i’m happy to end it, and i gave u the heads up, i messaged you this morning but instead you decided to block me once again. I’ll tap out when you tap out and say you will approve and become a better man

 

[Swcc]

Sure bro, you’re a lost cause. Zero accountability.

Why the fuck do you use disabled clients to steal from the supermarket? Answer that one.

See how you phrase it makes it seem like this is something i do constantly? 1 time, ONCE i walked out with an energy drink in a bag whilst i was taking a client shopping, that was one time, thas the extent it ever was and went to, happy? What else do you want me to say

 

[Concubine]

Haha it would be very alt of me to say I’m not swcc alt so where do I go from here haha

I actually joined to seek advice and this was the top post so just joined the community discussion

As you can tell I don’t have context but even with the context I stand by my opinion. Take responsibility for your own health, check yourself, get various opinions if you’re unsure, stop blaming others for your actions.

 

[Swcc]

i’m happy to end it, and i gave u the heads up, i messaged you this morning but instead you decided to block me once again. I’ll tap out when you tap out and say you will approve and become a better man

If you all leave me alone and drop it thats fine with me, ive taken everything thats happen this month and put careful thought it all and i have learned many things i will take away from, to any one in here who i coached i always enjoyed coaching you and the community we had whilst it lasted, i couldve handled things better, i couldve put my foot down more, and honestly i just more than anything else wanted to please, which is a fault in my coaching methodology

So with that being said if it means anything, anyone who felt like i did them wrong in any way im sorry, and i will continue to work on being a better person

All i ask is you stop involving my personal life, keep your chats, keep your jokes, whatever, but id like to move in from this all and keep doing my thing please

 

[Concubine]

Oh no the little boy got blocked? so the beef had to start again fuuuuuuck me this is gold

 

[Trumpy]

Haha it would be very alt of me to say I’m not swcc alt so where do I go from here haha

I actually joined to seek advice and this was the top post so just joined the community discussion

As you can tell I don’t have context but even with the context I stand by my opinion. Take responsibility for your own health, check yourself, get various opinions if you’re unsure, stop blaming others for your actions.

Jesus Christ. “I don’t know what’s going on, but you’re wrong.”

Aight bro.

 

[Trumpy]

See how you phrase it makes it seem like this is something i do constantly? 1 time, ONCE i walked out with an energy drink in a bag whilst i was taking a client shopping, that was one time, thas the extent it ever was and went to, happy? What else do you want me to say

Why were you poaching customers from vendors offering undercutted prices for shit?

 

[Concubine]

Why were you poaching customers from vendors offering undercutted prices for shit?

Business you numpty. Supply and demand, every business does it and no doubt if you see a sale on an item where it’s cheaper than everywhere else you buy it. The cycle repeats.

 

[iDreamofHenry]

Business you numpty. Supply and demand, every business does it and no doubt if you see a sale on an item where it’s cheaper than everywhere else you buy it. The cycle repeats.

STFU

 

[Swcc]

Why were you poaching customers from vendors offering undercutted prices for shit?

The rare occasions it did happen i learnt my lesson, call it what you want, but it was the wrong thing to do, i never wanted to make beef but clearly its taken much harsher than i anticipated, so there thats my honest truth

 

[Concubine]

Jesus Christ. “I don’t know what’s going on, but you’re wrong.”

Aight bro.

There appears to a whole lot you don’t know, hence why you’re asking so many questions, yet you’re still providing a strong opinion. What’s different?