Supps for a non cycling natty??

[SirIsaacBrock]

I've been doing some reading aorund and it seems some of the test boosters here actually do work, unless its all a rep conspiracy..

I seemed to notice that lot of people here dont think you should mess with anything liek test boosters, or even things like the sarms until you're a little older because as a 25 year old Im already producing a buncha test? at least supposed to be? whats the harm in boosting it?

I currently take just whey protein, creatine mono, and multis suppd with vit c and d, fish oil, a g/c/msm joint supp and green tea extract.. gonna start taking a preworkout soon but some of these thigns got me interested

like what about GEAR? supposed to boost your protein intake

I get the idea that alot of these are for moreso when your gains slow down and you need a boost, is that to say, at a newbie stage you won't feel the boost? I mean, if im working at 100%, won't any extra supp like this boost me up to 110%, theres no harm in it right?

I've gained 30lbs since january so Im doing good.. but everyone wants an edge and I am not going to look at steroids until I put on another 20-30lbs of lean mass 'natty.' the sarms look interesting but at this point i feel like its playing with fire and i should just ignore them for a while

 

[Idobehigh]

Gear is great to add a very good amino acid and will do exactly what you said, test boosters work for a certain age as well, you never mentioned how old you were? That will play a big role.

 

[bonacris]

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[SirIsaacBrock]

Gear is great to add a very good amino acid and will do exactly what you said, test boosters work for a certain age as well, you never mentioned how old you were? That will play a big role.

I'm 25

I've read tree reviews on hcgenerate and un leashed but for the most part they seem to be from guys using them in their pct. Nothing much about standalone use

Supposing that my test and hormone production is at its lifetime high, can products like these boost them even further?

 

[Nelson Montana]

UNLEASHED, Pytoserms, BRIDGE and GEAR would make an outstanding natty, non suppressive stack.

 

[SirIsaacBrock]

UNLEASHED, Pytoserms, BRIDGE and GEAR would make an outstanding natty, non suppressive stack.

That sounds insanely expensive

I looked at HCGenerate and noticed that you take 10 pills a day at about 10$ a pill

I guess my biggest question is, when it comes to stuff liek gear and all these things, why haven;t I heard of them and why aren't larger supp companies selling such offerings?

I mean, I guess I am looking for an edge, but not spending $20 a day kind of edge for something that may be less than noticeable at my stage? dunno.

 

[liffalot]

I've been doing some reading aorund and it seems some of the test boosters here actually do work, unless its all a rep conspiracy..

I seemed to notice that lot of people here dont think you should mess with anything liek test boosters, or even things like the sarms until you're a little older because as a 25 year old Im already producing a buncha test? at least supposed to be? whats the harm in boosting it?

I currently take just whey protein, creatine mono, and multis suppd with vit c and d, fish oil, a g/c/msm joint supp and green tea extract.. gonna start taking a preworkout soon but some of these thigns got me interested

like what about GEAR? supposed to boost your protein intake

I get the idea that alot of these are for moreso when your gains slow down and you need a boost, is that to say, at a newbie stage you won't feel the boost? I mean, if im working at 100%, won't any extra supp like this boost me up to 110%, theres no harm in it right?

I've gained 30lbs since january so Im doing good.. but everyone wants an edge and I am not going to look at steroids until I put on another 20-30lbs of lean mass 'natty.' the sarms look interesting but at this point i feel like its playing with fire and i should just ignore them for a while

25 years old is plenty to be starting Sarms or AAS if you think you're ready for it. That's generally the age where people will tell you that your youthful test level drop a bit and even out.

I always recommend that people look into SARMS before AAS just because they are relatively cheap, easy, and still produce great results. A good stepping stone if you will.

I get all of my Sarms from the board sponsor Sarmssearch here - you wont find anything better out there

 

[liffalot]

That sounds insanely expensive

I looked at HCGenerate and noticed that you take 10 pills a day at about 10$ a pill

I guess my biggest question is, when it comes to stuff liek gear and all these things, why haven;t I heard of them and why aren't larger supp companies selling such offerings?

I mean, I guess I am looking for an edge, but not spending $20 a day kind of edge for something that may be less than noticeable at my stage? dunno.

Like everyone else said too, those are great supps for a completely natty cycle.

The reasons are different for each of them. GEAR for example is very expensive to make because it is incredibly highly concentrated and difficult to extract Super Plasma Serum brought to you at an affordable price. Big companies don't waste their time with anything that costs them X amount of dollars to make, especially when they cant make a huge profit off of it (and lets be honest nobody is going to buy GEAR for 100 bucks a bottle).

With things like phytoserms too, they are very specialized and your average everyday creatine junkie either doesn't need to mess with them or doesn't want to mess with them. They are all for next level athletes and people who aspire to be so.

 

[SirIsaacBrock]

Sarms seem really very interesting, but I've only been lifting since the start of the year and I don't think I am at any point ready for such things, or really for a few years, though am I wrong to believe that I would likely entertain greater than average gains using such products? Anyway I'm no athlete and I don't really have any end goal in sight, its kind of hard to say when I'd feel ready, but I do feel like I have a lot of natural growth in me. But then I feel like if I load up on thigns like unleashed and gear im not being entirely 'natural' anyway, and I should just go for it.

Sarms are also interesting in the fact that I can have a guaranteed readily available high quality source; when it comes to anything like steroids, I have no idea where to even start, and they seem way too intense for me with all the pct, having to do bloods and so on and so forth. I'm meticulous about the thigns I do, and when I do things I do them right and proper like a lot of people I've noticed on here, but the cash factor is astounding. I have no idea what true aas' cost, I know theyre expensive, but I also know that some of you are spending quite a large amount on your pcts and so on and so forth.

Anyway yeah Id like to stay "natural" for a good while, but the whole question of just what is natural comes into mind when I start thinking about all these supps...

 

[Idobehigh]

Well good for you for actually saying your not ready for roids yet and I respect you for that I just wish a lot of others were like you lol as far where to start on aas just keep looking on here and you will eventually start understanding more about, cycle depending on what they are range from 400-to upwards of 1000$ defiantly learn as much as u can