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Superdrol pct? Nolvadex or clomid?

dasitmane

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as far as serms go

is nolvadex alone sufficient

clomid alone sufficient?

or do i need both

i'm all set for other pct supps, just want your opinions on this specific question


if you post, please state whether you have used superdrol and why you are recommending what you are

thanks a lot guys
 
Superdrol requires the same PCT as anything else. Maybe a little more liver protectant while. N2GUARD and Liv 52. Nolvadex will do nothing for recovery but may prevent gyno while on if you're prone to it. Get some UNLEASHED and Protein Factory POST CYCLE.
 
Superdrol is suppressive and very toxic, and will shut you down pretty hard. Make sure you are using N2guard. You are going to need more than a serm or even both in PCT

SERMS only in a PCT will not help you recover. They have a temporary effect, and your test levels will crash as soon as you come off of them. They are good to have in PCT, but you need much more to raise test naturally and control estrogen rebound.

Optimal PCT for best recovery:

Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25 (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
Liquid Aromasin (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
Test Stack 17 or PHYTOSERMS (see link below for info and discounts)
Ostarine 25mg per day (SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators)

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...17-not-your-average-test-booster-1257533.html

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...hytoserms-347-347-beyond-natural-1260633.html
 
Superdrol is the harshest thing I've taken.. A strong pct is vital.. I personally don't think I will ever touch it again

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ok thanks guys

i'm already set on my other pct supps so no need to recommend those

im just asking about the differences between clomid and nolva when it comes to superdrol


and why would i need aromasin for superdrol if it doesn't aromatize?
 
ok thanks guys

i'm already set on my other pct supps so no need to recommend those

im just asking about the differences between clomid and nolva when it comes to superdrol


and why would i need aromasin for superdrol if it doesn't aromatize?

Estrogen rebound.. it can be bad with superdrol.. and prolactin induced gyno had been known to occur as well

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I'm not familiar with this superdrol stuff but if he might have prolactin issues would you recommend some caber for him too bonacris?
 
ok thanks guys

i'm already set on my other pct supps so no need to recommend those

im just asking about the differences between clomid and nolva when it comes to superdrol

That's like asking if it's better to go fishing with wood bait or plastic bait.
 
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I'm not familiar with this superdrol stuff but if he might have prolactin issues would you recommend some caber for him too bonacris?

I had to get caber for an anti gyno run after superdrol. When I did more research it was pretty common to get prolactin gyno. I will never run superdrol again.. It's like the opposite of dbol in the way it makes you feel. Dbol I feel like a king.

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ok thanks guys

i'm already set on my other pct supps so no need to recommend those

im just asking about the differences between clomid and nolva when it comes to superdrol


and why would i need aromasin for superdrol if it doesn't aromatize?

I'm not sure what your other PCT Supps are, but I hope they are pretty damn good. You will need it for a Superdrol or you will be left with low test, low libido, and your gains will be gone.

As for the SERM I would take Clomid over Nolva any day every day
 
Nelson do you use any sarms

SARMS or SERMS? I've used both and had a horrible reaction to serms which is what got me investigating their mechanism. It turned out I wasn't the only one who experienced the sides but no one had come out and written about it because it was just so "accepted." On further investigation it turns out they not only cause sides but aren't very good at restoring HPTA function. In fact, they may suppress it. That also got me started on finding alternatives.
 
What alternatives did you come up with Nelson? I'm not a fan of serms either.

I realized that even if serms worked, at some point you have to stop using them -- that;s when baselines drop back to zero. So why deal with the shitty sides of serms? So I looked into getting natural testosterone as high as possible, but there really isn;t much that will do that. However, there are substances shown to increase FREE testsosterone. And that's the key, because it's the only kind that counts. No one else had done anything like this.

I found a few substances that were effective and recommended them in my books-- mainly avenacosides, A&B. The problem was, they weren't easy to find. So I put the ingredients together myself and set out on the ridiculous notion of explaining to people what recovery was about and how increaseing bioavailable testosterone was the way to go. UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE were born.

It wasn't an easy haul. It still isn't. This ain't Muscletech! lol But thanks to a few people who believed in me -- RIck, George Spellwin, Alex Rogers at protein factory and yes, Nathan "needto"Chase, I was able to reach a large serious anabolic using audience. And the results speak for themselves. Others have copied what I did. And other stuff has come along. But the UNLEASHED/PF POST CYCLE has proven itself the most effective PCT products.

Today, more and more people are accepting that clomid and nolvdex are things of the past. They don't work well. And they have nasty side effects. Still, some people find benefit form the, But even THEY are including UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE into their PCT. It simply makes the most sense.
 
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I personally hate fuckin nolvadex and never tryd clomid but I'm about to run superdrol myself(beastdrol) for my second time the first time I did it I used forma stanzol 2bottels of both unleashed and post cycle along with my cycle support for another month and I recovered absolutly fine kept a good portion of my gains also so to me a serm is not needed an will not be used in this next beastdrol cycle again
 
Then I plan I bridging with some phytoserms 347 the only product left I havnt tryd as long as I can get it for 89$ again or fuck that I won't pay more lol along with some bridge if I can't get the phytoserms cheap enough ill double dose bridge and throw in some more unleashed cause I fuckin love that stuff. Also just to add while on cycle I also use rs transderm and hcgenerate along with my cycle support which is n2gaurd and AI cycle support also got some taurine on hand incase of back pumps
 
Then I plan I bridging with some phytoserms 347 the only product left I havnt tryd as long as I can get it for 89$ again or fuck that I won't pay more lol along with some bridge if I can't get the phytoserms cheap enough ill double dose bridge and throw in some more unleashed cause I fuckin love that stuff. Also just to add while on cycle I also use rs transderm and hcgenerate along with my cycle support which is n2gaurd and AI cycle support also got some taurine on hand incase of back pumps


That's always good to hear. Phyto serms is a good addition too, it's not my product and it's pricy but it is good and can help. BRIDGE is often overlooked but is an excellent addition post PCT to maintain gains and continue progress in between cycles.
 
Holy shit so you are the actual creator of these products? I didn't realize that Nelson, pretty freaking amazing!

Yeah, most companies stick a bunch of shit together, or use what's currently popular and don't even know what anything is supposed to do and just sell that. My products were developed from years of research, experimentation and experience and every ingredient has a purpose. That's hard to get people to realize but the bottom line is, they work. And that's the biggest selling point. Almost everyone who uses it, reorders it.

It's easy to fool newbies into buying some hyped up crap. But guys who know what they're doing want stuff that works. And that's who I want to reach.
 
I'll definitely be looking into adding it to my PCT thanks Nelson, and I know what you mean with the supp companies, throw a couple ingredients together call it a proprietary blend and somehow the FDA says they're good to go.
 
Mr Chicago I'll be the first person to vouch for unleashed and post cycle and I have nothin to gain by doin so I'm just a regular guy like u looking for answers and results I spend a lot of money on shit so if I'm not happy I'll be the first person to put something on blast and say straight up the shit sucks but unleashed is one of those products I would run all year if I could not that it's not economical because it is actualy its probly the best bang for buck product out there to be honest atleast that I've tryd I just like takin a few months off so not to build up a tolerance . U deff won't be disappointed shits like Viagra also lol
 
Nelson I once had someone tell me stinging nettle was a cyclooxygenase inhibiter and should not be messed with if ur looking to increase muscle mass so to stay away from unleashed what would u say to that? I had no response besides listen the shit works for me but would like to know a proper response for that
 
Nelson I once had someone tell me stinging nettle was a cyclooxygenase inhibiter and should not be messed with if ur looking to increase muscle mass so to stay away from unleashed what would u say to that? I had no response besides listen the shit works for me but would like to know a proper response for that

Only in that there's a slight anti inflammatory effect -- which is a good thing. It does not have a negative effect on muscle. Since it suppresses SHBG it can only enhance muscle growth.
 
Not to hijack the thread, but Nelson would you recommend Unleashed/Post Cycle alone after a SARMS triple stack and primobol dex cycle or would the Clomid/Nolva combo still need to be added into that mix?
 
Not to hijack the thread, but Nelson would you recommend Unleashed/Post Cycle alone after a SARMS triple stack and primobol dex cycle or would the Clomid/Nolva combo still need to be added into that mix?

SARMS and Primodex disturb the same hormonal pathways as steroids, so a PCT is needed. SInce they are a little less suppressive, the UNLEASHED/PF POSTCYCLE combo would be perfect.
 
Wow, that stuff used to work great on my... But it shuts you down hard.... I'll have to look it up... Now if only they still made m1t...

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Wow, that stuff used to work great on my... But it shuts you down hard.... I'll have to look it up... Now if only they still made m1t...

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Again it can be found in the uk ;-)

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SARMS and Primodex disturb the same hormonal pathways as steroids, so a PCT is needed. SInce they are a little less suppressive, the UNLEASHED/PF POSTCYCLE combo would be perfect.
Nice, thanks for the reply bro! So just to be clear (still a noob, really want to be sure), I can just use the unleashed/post cycle combo without the use of SERMS for the PCT of that cycle?
 
Nice, thanks for the reply bro! So just to be clear (still a noob, really want to be sure), I can just use the unleashed/post cycle combo without the use of SERMS for the PCT of that cycle?

I'm not a fan of serms under any condition. But yes, UNELASHED and PF POSTCYCLE work great. A little a-dex and maybe some HCG to kick start the PCT wouldn;t hurt but it's not absolutely necessary if the cycle wasn't too long.
 
Nice, thanks for the reply bro! So just to be clear (still a noob, really want to be sure), I can just use the unleashed/post cycle combo without the use of SERMS for the PCT of that cycle?

I would use some forma stanzol also all 3 work great together and start the forma 1 week before the end of ur cycle to let it build up in ur system and run it threw ur hole pct
 
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