summers almost here..need to shed those last pounds. please help.

[getbig1212]

I've always been stocky/a little chubby type. I'm 24 years old, kind of short about 5'8 and always had a stocky build but never cut..always lifted on/off.. over the past year i've gotten more serious and have made a big change in my type of body by dieting really well and doing cardio with my weight training. My weight used to generally be around the 185 range and i had a rounded look and now i've cut down to 165-170 range. I dont have a six pack and i'm def not ripped yet but i've toned up all over. Still have little love handles and a flat but semi chubby stomach. I'm happy i've came very far with hardwork. I'm going for the lean/cut/in good shape look now which i never have so i'm confused at the point i'm at now on what to do..my results have def slowed up now with the fat loss its at the point where its getting tough i'm 165 pounds i kind of hate being so light bc i'm used to feeling big and sturdy but i do look a lot better. my question is how much more weight am i going to have to drop to get my skin tight and those abbs showing more, and am i on the right path to get there? or should i change things a little ?
ive cut down my diet little by little and starting from april 1st my diet is as follows:
carbs only in the morning (oat meal) and post workout (baked potato), and every five or six days i'll carb up eating some more carbs that day or another baked potato at night.. no protein shakes.. i try to get my protein strictly from foods and since i dropped the shakes i feel tighter and better bc they always felt wierd in my stomach, and trying to stay low dairy no cheeses, etc.
*My basic daily meal plan looks like this: (i eat every 3 hours)
1. Breakfast: 5 eggs (2 yellows, 3 whites) and a cup of oatmeal (around 9 am)

2. 1 and a half cans of tuna with celery, a tbsp of extra virgin and red wine vinnagerette (12 noon)

3. Same thing as number two. Or grilled chicken with broccoli rabbe (around 3pm)

Go to the gym around 4ish..weight train for an hour..then do cardio either 20 mins of hiit on the tredmill or if my legs are soar i usually do the elliptical for about 30-45 minutes (sometimes an hour) medium pace, also throw in some fast pace in there and some slow pace every once in a while)

4. post workout, A lean meat like chicken or a fish (i am for 6-8 oz of the meat), mixed veggies mostly broccoli or asparagus, and a baked potato

5. Then around 9 oclock if i'm out i'll grab an egg white omellete with some spinach and turkey in it, or if i'm home and have some chicken left over have that..something light

If i go to sleep early (11 or before) i end the eating at meal 5 but if im up a little later i'll have some low fat cottage cheese, or a handfull of mixed almonds right before bed..

*WHAT DO YOU THINK? I workout about 4 days a week and do cardio 2-3 hours per week. AM i on the road to getting ripped? Should i just keep at it or change something and up the cardio?? Like my weight got real low and i still feel i got some fat beneath my skin. Some experienced input would be highly appreciated . WHen i wake up in the morning i look/feel lean and my skin looks tight then by night it looks loose/a little hangy and i feel i still have a long way to go. Do i just keep aiming to lower bf to help this?

 

[TheN1ghtmare21]

Your diet is on the right track. Personally whenever I go on a cut I use Mike Dolce's Dolce Diet its worked really good for me.

 

[packers6211]

Dont know how you feel on fat burners or stims, but I too am stalky with only being 5'5. I got up to 290 over two years ago and freak out. I changed the way I ate, started being more active, and working out at the gym. I lost 22 lbs just off that. Then I tried Lean EFX 1 cap daily for a month and drop another 20 lbs. Help me with energy but not bouncing off the wall, and curved my appeitite. I am down to the 240's now and after months off from lean efx I haven't gained any weight back. I plan on using it again soon, and OrbitNutrition.com has it for a cheap price. Good luck with it!

 

[getbig1212]

thanks guys i appreciate the input and the write backs.. this is what i look now this is at 165 lbs. in the morning empty stomach..give me some tips tell me what you think..will the stomach and love handles ever go away? haha :/

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[ajfab88]

diet looks good bro...thats a nice clean diet you got goin on there. should help you put on some nice clean mass

as far as training goes bro, keep doin what your doin, when you see your results start plataeuing, just switch it up whether it be different order of workouts, or just start doing some drop sets and/or pyramids... I feel drop sets / pyramids (especially for the small muscles) really help break through plataeus

 

[psizzle_8]

diet looks good bro...thats a nice clean diet you got goin on there. should help you put on some nice clean mass

as far as training goes bro, keep doin what your doin, when you see your results start plataeuing, just switch it up whether it be different order of workouts, or just start doing some drop sets and/or pyramids... I feel drop sets / pyramids (especially for the small muscles) really help break through plataeus

Agreed. Can't go wrong with drop sets. I incorporate them in all the time. Reliable lil suckers... they always work wonders for me!

 

[red head]

if youve stagnated a bit you could start doin a bit of fasted low intensity cardio in the AM before breakfast and instead of hiit do some bb comlex's . imo doing cardio pwo is not optimal for fat loss as the extra cals burned by 20/30 mins will be minimal and youre doing cardio when your in a catabolic state . fasted liss cardio is a bigger bang for ya buck and safer in terms of muscle loss start with 25 mins and add 5 mins every week .

 

[getbig1212]

thanks my friends. lovin the advice. just picked up 280, 10mg anavars...lets see..shud i start a new thread or just continue this?

 

[kagenical]

I find var, for the first month, lets me keep my calories quite low (high protein of course, stacked with Creatine too) while keeping my lifts strong, or even stronger.
40mg/50mg var per day, IF and Keto style dieting 500kcal under maintenance and you can exchange a LOT of fat for muscle in a month (a personal best was -8/+1 lbs)

But then after that I start to shut down and get lethargic, so I keep my var cycles really short with solid recovery breaks between them. YMMV of course, Since this is in the diet forum, might as well continue here.

I also love taking my var sublingually, I double my visible vascularity literally 5-10 minutes after I place the tabs under my tongue, and the strength effects come on quicker, though that last bit may be placebo .

 

[getbig1212]

excited to see what happens..been taking it for 3 days now 50 mg a day. stepped my cardio up to atleast an hour a day lately, some times an hour and 20 mins..as much as i can squeeze in am cardio on an empty stomach (usually only 20 mins) then the rest pwo slow/steady also

 

[kagenical]

When the var hits, I think cardio might become a bit more tough. You'll notice some crippling calf pumps, heh.

Although many will blame extraneous factors, like genetics (or flat-out tell me I'd delusional) I gained 2.5" on each calf from uphill (8% incline) "HIIT" running while on 8 weeks of 50mg/day. HIIT consisted of 30s running at 7mph and 60s walking at 4mph, for around 12-15 reps.

So, if you could stand to gain a bit there, power through the pumps. And FWIW my calves are 17.5" in circumference after I carb up. That shit never happened until oxandrolone.

 

[getbig1212]

bout a week and a half into the var today and todays i realized i had really sick pumps when doing bis where i had to stop and like rub my forearm bc they were getting too pumped, and a big decrease in appetite...var anyone? i had a plate of chicken with some veggies in front of me and i just couldnt do it, had a 50 gram shake tho, then a few hours later came home figured id eat the chicken, eh i passed, had a shake again. this coming from someone that i have to try real hard not to over eat especially at night (now), idk the appetites not there, maybe var

 

[kagenical]

Var suppresses appetite in some, but not me. I was absolutely ravenous on it - but then again, I'm used to the suppressing effects of ECA with nicotine - and I was training like a motherfucker at the time.

Switch your shakes to casein if you can't eat and you'll have absolutely no issues replacing meals with liquid protein. Whey is too quickly digesting (you may absorb most of it in 3 hours, whereas a steak might take three hours to leave your stomach) to reliably replace meals - that's why we take it PWO for some fast amino action.

And try an afternoon (5-10 nothing major) of long-ish hill sprints. I dare you.

 

[getbig1212]

whatsup guys idk if anyone is still reading but ill post up just in case. been a month on the var. 50 mg a day, 30 mg in morning , 20 mg late afternoon b4 training. (10 mg capsules) my weight is up about 6 pounds, def a more thicker look in my shoulders n trapps, as well as overall harder feeling/look..when i train i feel tight n stay pumped for a long time, also some strenght gains which only started a few days ago, nothing crazy though..i wasn't expecting anything crazy..no side effects at all except increased vascularity n hardness, and when i have sex the lil guy gets like a rock and i can go for a long time and for 3 round no problem, idk if its the var or the arginine/jack3d.. no more boners then usual, just when i start, i can do whatever i want its nuts lol lean wise i dont think its done much to lean me out, perfect diet n cardio making slow progress with that..we'll see what happens i got one more month left praying i dont shutdown when i come off n regret doing it lol

 

[TheN1ghtmare21]

I dont think you have to worry about shuttin down!

 

[getbig1212]

arite guys. im back. and done. kinda crazy what had happened..i was absolutely loving the var cycle..gained a solid 7 pounds, def got leaner looking, stronger, great workouts..then about 6 1/2 weeks in i started getting stomach aches, nothing major just a little discomfort, i searched and seen it was a side effect of var so i continued, a day later the cramping when to a lil burning but still nothing crazy, i continued, the NEXt day i felt an annoying/semi painful burning in my lower right abdomen that lasted with me throughout the day and progressed throughout the night i tried toughing it out but it was so hard to sleep it wasn't excruciating but it was annoying and i knew something was wrong i went to a walk in first med next morning at 6:30 am and they found blood in my urine and said the pain was coming from my kidneys and gall bladder. i didn't say i was on var but told the doc i was taking a lot of protein/legal supplements. i discontinued taking the var obviously that morning, and was in pain for about another day after that. i stopped lifting, protein, aminos, jack3d for about 3 days and took it easy and im feeling back to normal now. i had blood work and a sonogram on my organs done to play it safe, the sonogram was okay no damage or stones to the kidneys or anything, and the bloodwork was okay but the doc said my liver enzyme count was high. idk what the hell happened but i feel better now but idk whats going on..back in the gym..limiting myself to one protein shake after workout, one scoop of jacked before, and no other pills or supps for a while going back to dr. in 2 weeks to re-check bloodwork. WTF happened to me? one second i was LOVING this cycle next day thought iw as going to die. not enough water? i was taking the first 3 on an empty stomach i feel that hurt..no carb diet too high protein? or just too many things going on at once with my body with the protein shakes, the jack3d, xtend, multi, agrinine, and once i threw the var in there it set it over the edge? idk...i look great though ill tell ya that..but im so f'ing pissed this happened, kinda scary. what you guys think??

 

[getbig1212]

and one more thing i need advice on. Im scared to start my clomid pct because im scared im not healed properly and my kidneys/liver/stomach or whatever the hell is wrong with me won't be able to handle it. WTF do i do? i didnt shut down but after like 5 days no var my dick just feels like it lost sensitivity and takes longer to get going, im thinking tribulus tetretis bc i have some laying around and don't think im in that bad of shape. please help with some suggestions

 

[kiai]

well you were on an oral and I see no liver protection on ur list. I'm still natural so I don't know much about things but sounds like you didn't do your research first I'm sure you will need to get on a liver supplement for a while to help with your recovery the good news is that your enzymes should go back to normal after a while, so just follow up with your doctor you should be fine. also consider a correct PCT many in here would advise you away from clomid.