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Sugar vs. Nutrasweet etc.

littleRock

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I'm trying to cut out as much sugars and simple carbs as i can and was wondering what the consensus is on products like Nutrasweet, Aspartame (sp) etc.
 
no calorie, no insulin spike

If you don't over consume those artificial sweeteners it is perfectkly OK
 
littleRock said:
I'm trying to cut out as much sugars and simple carbs as i can and was wondering what the consensus is on products like Nutrasweet, Aspartame (sp) etc.

One word: SPLENDA aka sucralose
 
A while back the head of the FDA said table sugar wouldn't be allowed on the market if it came up for review due to its detrimental effects on human health. Some of the pseudo science surrounding nutrasweet really gets on my nerves sometimes but I prefer sucralose anyway.
 
I did a search for "FDA banned sugar" and found this.



NO SUGAR TONIGHT
Pure white, deliciously sweet and nutritionally useless. Sugar in the morning, sugar in the evening, sugar at supper time. We eat about 130 pounds of the stuff a year or 35 teaspoons a day. And it's in everything, chicken soup, pickles, pork and beans, peanut butter, bread, macaroni and cheese, ketchup, mustard and relish, jam, pop, yogurt, canned fruit and vegetables, salad dressings, not to mention the endless list of desserts, jam packed and stuffed to capacity with sugar.

Sugar cane in its natural form is rich in minerals and vitamins. The sugar molecules are complexed with other organic molecules. The organic components of sugar cane work synergistically to nourish the body. Sucanat, which is dehydrated cane sugar, is rich in potassium, vitamin A, vitamin C, B1, B2, B6, niacin, calcium, iron, phosphorous, pantothenic acid, magnesium, zinc, copper, and chromium. In contrast, refined sugar is devoid of nutrients and acts more like a drug than a food. It quickly passes through the stomach wall causing blood sugar levels to rise, then plummet.

First, the blood sugar level skyrockets and causes the pancreas to secrete insulin to compensate for the excess blood sugar. Afterward, the blood sugar level drops below normal. This state has been coined the sugar blues. The downside of the sugar blues is a state of depression, lethargy and irritability.


The craving for sugared foods can be like a drug addict craving a fix. There is an uncontrollable desire for something sweet. The addict will seek a sugar fix eight to twenty times per day. While the average consumption is 24%, there are children consuming more than 50% of their calories as sugar. For school teachers, Halloween is a nightmare. Their students are affected by a massive sugar intake. Hyperactive on sugar, they behave erratically and become difficult to control.

In digestion, protein and sugar combinations putrefy and cause toxic substances called ptomaines and leucomaines. Over-consumption of sugar paralyzes our white blood cell's phagocytic ability, increasing the risk of viral infections. There are 60 to 400 trillion phagocytic white blood cells active in the body. White sugar causes these defenders to become sluggish in their work, thereby lowering resistance to disease. In other words, processed sugar messes up your immune system. After ingesting white sugar, the power of your immune system drops 50% for 24 to 48 hours. It's one of the worst things you could put into your body. Except artificial sweeteners.

One of them, Aspartame is, by far, the most dangerous substance on the market that is added to foods. Aspartame accounts for over 75 percent of the adverse reactions to food additives reported to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Many of these reactions are very serious including seizures and death. What is the FDA doing to protect the consumer from the dangers of aspartame? Nothing. Donald Rumsfeld, the current Secretary of Defense, was Chief Executive Officer of G. D. Searle & Co., a worldwide pharmaceutical company, where he served until 1985. While there he earned awards such as the Outstanding Chief Executive Officer in the Pharmaceutical Industry in 1980 and 1981. He along with Robert Shapiro are solely responsible for using their political muscle and graft to buy off the FDA and get NutraSweet approved, and are responsible for the death and disease this toxic chemical has caused. In 1992, the FDA approved aspartame for use in malt beverages, breakfast cereals, and refrigerated puddings and fillings. In 1993 the FDA approved aspartame for use in hard and soft candies, non-alcoholic favored beverages, tea beverages, fruit juices and concentrates, baked goods and baking mixes, and frostings, toppings and fillings for baked goods.

In 1991, the FDA banned the importation of stevia. The powder of the leaf has been used for hundreds of years as an alternative sweetner. It is used widely in Japan with no adverse effects. Scientists involved in reviewing stevia have declared it to be safe for human consumption - something which has been well known in many parts of the world where it is not banned. Everyone that I have spoken with in regards to this issue believes that stevia was banned to keep the product from taking hold in the US and cutting into sales of aspartame. What is the US Congress doing to protect the consumer from the dangers of aspartame? Nothing.

What is the US Administration (President) doing to protect the consumer from the dangers of aspartame? Nothing. Aspartame consumption is not only a problem in the US. It is being sold in over 70 countries throughout the world. A few of the 90 different documented symptoms listed in the report as being caused by aspartame include: Headaches/Migraines, Dizziness, Seizures, Nausea, Numbness, Muscle spasms, Weight gain, Rashes, Depression, Fatigue, Irritability, Tachycardia, Insomnia, Vision Problems, Hearing Loss, Heart palpitations, Breathing difficulties, Anxiety attacks, Slurred Speech, Loss of taste, Tinnitus, Vertigo, Memory loss, Joint Pain.

According to researchers and physicians studying the adverse effects of aspartame, the following chronic illnesses can be triggered or worsened by ingesting of aspartame: Brain tumors, Multiple sclerosis, Epilepsy, Chronic fatigue syndrome, Parkinson's Disease, Alzheimer's, Mental retardation, Lymphoma, Birth defects, Fibromyalgia, Diabetes. Aspartame is made up of three chemicals, aspartic acid, phenylalanine, and methanol. The book, "Prescription for Nutritional Healing" by James and Phyllis Balch lists aspartame under the category of "Chemical Poison." As you can see, that is exactly what it is.
 
table sugar (saccharose) is far worse than aspartam
 
can i get your opinions on the artificial sweetner Acesulfame K (Potassium) Iheard it was worse than aspertame
 
grafix-GNC said:
can i get your opinions on the artificial sweetner Acesulfame K (Potassium) Iheard it was worse than aspertame

Acesulfame K is GRAS (generally recognised as safe) just like aspartam

it has a bitter after taste that is why it is often used with aspartame
 
:rolleyes:

Another aspartame thread. Good Lord.

I use all three national brand sweeteners, Equal, Sweet 'n Low, and Splenda. For dieters, they are Godsends. The crap you read on the web about the dangers of aspartame is just that...crap.

Ask yourself:

1. Have you ever heard of anyone having an adverse reaction to ANY artificial sweetener?

2. Have you ever seen a legitimate news report or newspaper article on ANYONE having an adverse reaction to ANY artificial sweetener?

3. Considering how many millions of pounds of sweeteners are sold each year, if there were really a problem, don't you think we'd have been aware of it years ago?

4. Have you ever heard of any problems with sweeteners from any source but the web?

If you have some sort of alergy or one-in-a-million reaction to a sweetener (and that is possible with almost anything you can eat), you'll know it immediately. Beyond that, use them to your heart's content.

Here's a couple links that might help:

MIT report from the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition
FDA Report
 
Well...
I must admit I have adverse reactions

every time...

huge spots, headaches, ....

every time...

yes, it is awfull and really painful...

every time ... I hear stupids urban legends about artificial sweeteners and brain cancer :D :D :D
 
Anthrax said:
Well...
I must admit I have adverse reactions

every time...

huge spots, headaches, ....

every time...

yes, it is awfull and really painful...

every time ... I hear stupids urban legends about artificial sweeteners and brain cancer :D :D :D

I've been shamefully absent from the Diet board of late. Good to see you are still around sir. :D
 
Good to see you back ! :angel:
 
Check out Stevia

I was glad to see that stevia got some mention but I didn’t feel there was enough info listed so here is my two cents.


I started using stevia about a year ago, the FDA restricted health food stores from calling it a sweetener as the sugar lobby is quite powerful, however people were able to get around the ban if they sold it as a supplement. Health food stores were not allowed to carry books on cooking with it or free to use it in their cafes instead of approved sweeteners.

I have done quite a bit of research on stevia, I cook with it regularly and when I HAVE to have chocolate chip cookies I make carob/stevia cookies from a recipe that I found off the internet. I also learned you can use applesauce in baking to replace butter requirements and rather than white flour I use whole wheat or oat flour.
Stevia is wonderfully sweet, wont spike your insulin, won’t rot your teeth and isn’t made up of some pharmaceutical chemical that is stored in your brain tissue. It’s natural, it’s a good antioxidant and if you go follow these links you may find something that will convince you to give it a try. All stevia is not made equally so ready about the different companies; I use sweet leaf and wisdom of the ages. I hope this helps you cut your sugar without the nasty side effects of some in lab sweeteners.


http://www.stevia.net/

http://www.dorway.com/stevia.html

http://www.steviacanada.com/

http://www.cookingwithstevia.com/
 
a 30% ascesulfame K and 70% aspartame mixture appears in some research to have the same sweetness rating as that of sucrose. Maybe that was helpful.

The best thing is just to use these sweeteners in different ratios to find what best works for you. Just remember that some will have different taste indexes in relation to the heat/environment they are in.

BMJ
 
gymtime said:

1. Have you ever heard of anyone having an adverse reaction to ANY artificial sweetener?

2. Have you ever seen a legitimate news report or newspaper article on ANYONE having an adverse reaction to ANY artificial sweetener?

3. Considering how many millions of pounds of sweeteners are sold each year, if there were really a problem, don't you think we'd have been aware of it years ago?

4. Have you ever heard of any problems with sweeteners from any source but the web?

1. Yes, in a manner of speaking. Personal experience with obese individuals has found a strange link between difficulty losing weight and use of aspartame products. Generally, this has been a case of proportion; those using the higher amounts have been affected greater. I am of the opinion that there is a connection between aspartame use and decreased insulin sensitivity, so for that reason, it has no place in my diet programs.
2. Yes. Flight training manuals instruct pilots to avoid aspartame containing products because of the risk/association with seizures. Anyone I know who has seizure risks or conditions is told to stay off the aspartame.
3. No. The fact that no association has been made does not mean it does not exist. The current studies suggesting aspartame safety have been funded by groups benefitting from sales.
4. Yes. I have a file of physician-provided case studies containing over 2,000 documented occurrences of side effects believed to be associated with aspartame consumption. So whether physician experience has led to an increase in web communication or vice versa is almost immaterial. However, I do see your point and I tend to discount the near fanatical proportions it is given on some websites that have no credentials or legitimacy.


While I do not support the web-hype in its entirety condemning aspartame, there is way too much negative association for it to be called completely safe. I definitely think it is time for an independant organization to examine the evidence and even conduct tests. That's probably the only way it can be conclusively shown to be safe or suggested usafe with any degree of accuracy. I am not one prone to suggestion and hype, so ultimately my opinion is that it should be used sparingly and as a last resort to sucrose. Sucrose is very dangerous and has helped obesity rates in this country reach staggering proportions. So to say aspartame is as dangerous as sucrose is not true. So while I may be considered by some people to be anti-aspartame, I am not an outright opponent. I need more info before making an absolute stance and even then it could be a linked association. For example: it could be something as simple as aspartame side effects when consumed in X quantities by persons also consuming X amounts of trans fatty acids. Etc.
 
BackDoc said:


1. Yes, in a manner of speaking. Personal experience with obese individuals has found a strange link between difficulty losing weight and use of aspartame products. Generally, this has been a case of proportion; those using the higher amounts have been affected greater. I am of the opinion that there is a connection between aspartame use and decreased insulin sensitivity, so for that reason, it has no place in my diet programs.
2. Yes. Flight training manuals instruct pilots to avoid aspartame containing products because of the risk/association with seizures. Anyone I know who has seizure risks or conditions is told to stay off the aspartame.
3. No. The fact that no association has been made does not mean it does not exist. The current studies suggesting aspartame safety have been funded by groups benefitting from sales.
4. Yes. I have a file of physician-provided case studies containing over 2,000 documented occurrences of side effects believed to be associated with aspartame consumption. So whether physician experience has led to an increase in web communication or vice versa is almost immaterial. However, I do see your point and I tend to discount the near fanatical proportions it is given on some websites that have no credentials or legitimacy.

Do you have sources for any of that? It would make for an interesting read.
 
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