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mol3000

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i need something that worked better then even ephdra and even when im not exercising... whats the best out right now
 
I am evaluating LipoFlame, it' keeps me hot all day, a little sweat all day that is.. so far i'm liking it..
 
Stronger than ECA and works?...AAS yup hes right...Some other things like Lipoflame and Thermorexin work, but they dont excatly work the same as ECA, there is more science behind ECA than just "its a stim".
 
i been using that stimulant X...this stuff makes me crazy and i get inmpotence, but it ripped the fat off. i dropped 50 lbs since the last week of Feb 07. I lost some muscle, but most it was because of cardio. I went from 30% bodyfat to my present 15% on it (according to a tanita scale i have). if u can handle the side effects for over a month its worth it. keep in mind tho i did cardio twice a day and only ate fruits and veggies (occasional bowl of oatmeal twice a week when i felt weak), along with my normal protein sources.
 
bigrob215 said:
i been using that stimulant X...this stuff makes me crazy and i get inmpotence, but it ripped the fat off. i dropped 50 lbs since the last week of Feb 07. I lost some muscle, but most it was because of cardio. I went from 30% bodyfat to my present 15% on it (according to a tanita scale i have). if u can handle the side effects for over a month its worth it. keep in mind tho i did cardio twice a day and only ate fruits and veggies (occasional bowl of oatmeal twice a week when i felt weak), along with my normal protein sources.
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thats a good stim....but man i couldnt sleep for shit on it, had to give up.
 
Razorguns said:
lipoflame + hoodia + salads/chicken all day = bye bye fat
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What?

From personal experience I can tell you that Lipoflame makes me feel full very quickly. If you stack it with Hoodia and you wont be able to eat at all!



-BRR
 
What about human growth hormone - somatropin - protein peptide fragment 177-191? Anyone have experience with it?
 
poysyn said:
anabolic androgenic steroids
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im almost 100% sure aas do not burn fat. for example...winny. people think winny is such a great fat burning steroid but in reality all it does is enable you to hang onto muscle tissue while cutting. this way by doing all your cardio and dieting and taking winny at the same time youve salvaged most of the muscle you had before you dieted and this way you look a lot more defined because the muscle is still there. in that sense aas isnt exactly thermogenic.
 
markshark said:
im almost 100% sure anabolic androgenic steroids do not burn fat. for example...Winstrol - stanozolol. people think Winstrol - stanozolol is such a great fat burning steroid but in reality all it does is enable you to hang onto muscle tissue while cutting. this way by doing all your cardio and dieting and taking Winstrol - stanozolol at the same time youve salvaged most of the muscle you had before you dieted and this way you look a lot more defined because the muscle is still there. in that sense anabolic androgenic steroids isnt exactly thermogenic.
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most 'fat burners' are just anti-catabolics anyway, AAS is simply the best for cutting if you are looking for the very best results..

as for something to magically burn the fat away, its not any thermogenic its a diet
 
any fat burner that allows u to stick to calories in < calories out routine. simple as that. could be as simple as an appetite supressant.

lipoflame is hardcore. fi i take 3 pills on an empty stomach, i'll puke within 5 mins and faint in 10 if i don't eat something.
 
bottom line the best thing to do is eat the least amount of carbs as possible, do cardio, keep thermogenics such as caffeine ephedrine or green tea in your body throughout the day and you will burn fat.
 
why take speed when you can just clean up your diet and maybe sip some green tea throughout the day? the body is a temple!
 
thermorexin works really well if you do cardio with it, but i'm not so sure its any better than an eca stack,
 
clen/t3 orrrrrrrrrr... DNP. tried thermorexin a while back and it had me almost throwing up all day. these days i'll just stick with eca. its dirt cheap and better then anything else out there imo
 
hoodia - dietex - bodybuilding.com

lipoflame raises my metabolism. so i'm happy.

hoodia allows me to eat less, less as in less calories. i'm rarely hungry.
 
So If i tried a stack with dermatherm and Clenbuterol... which one would be better to use with it: stimulant X or lipoflame
 
LIPOFLAME is a Rapid Fat Burner to be used when doing Cardio to Drive Fat Loss to its highest levels. Its Extremely effective
You can also use LIPOFLAME for wokouts

I use LIPOFLAME of Cardio and Legs days

and Use Amplify02 for Upper body days to get that Maximum Pump look :)
 
BIGBUCK$ said:
Clenbuterol/t3 orrrrrrrrrr... dnp - dinitrophenol - . tried thermorexin a while back and it had me almost throwing up all day. these days i'll just stick with eca - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin. its dirt cheap and better then anything else out there imo
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Dam bro I finally found someone the same as me lol.All them fucking fat burners an energy drinks make me want to throw up.Don't no why all fucking day nausea man I guess I have a weak stomach lol.You think the ephedrine-cafeine-aspirin works better then clen bro.I was thinking it was a substitute for clen.What you think ?
 
mol3000 said:
So If i tried a stack with dermatherm and Clenbuterol... which one would be better to use with it: stimulant X or lipoflame
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You can use Lipoflame with DermaTherm... that would be a killer combo. I personly dont like clen, but you could probably slowly build it into the stack.

-Pp
 
BigRupe said:
Thanks bro I've been busy this summer.

Started my dermatherm about a week ago.

I use it at NIGHT before I go to sleep.
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How's that working out? They told me it might make it so I couldn't sleep. But I think I would rather burn a little before bed then when I'm on my way to work.
 
Jimbo15 said:
How's that working out? They told me it might make it so I couldn't sleep. But I think I would rather burn a little before bed then when I'm on my way to work.
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I use at night because I wear white shirts to work and it will stain them.

It does NOT keep me from sleeping. I like that feeling it gives.

Plus since its anti-catabolic I think taking it at night makes perfect sense as body temp drops at night too.

It's too early for me to report any results as yet.
 
i've been using xenadrine efx for my cardio and it's been great for me.

is it better than lipowhatever? i wouldnt know... but considering i have a contraindication to aspirin, i'm never gonna use these stackers ever again LOL

i've lost most of the fat % on me anyway so i have no need. planning on switching to MuscleMilk for my energy/fatburn now. cuz there's no aspirin in it :)
 
Primordial Performance said:
You can use Lipoflame with DermaTherm... that would be a killer combo. I personly dont like Clenbuterol, but you could probably slowly build it into the stack.

-Pp
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thanks..... anybody else
 
What would you all recommend for me. I need to drop 25-30 lbs of body fat, hoping for 15 weeks. Working out 5-6 days a week. I want to build muscle but shed the fat on my body. I see all different stimulants here but not sure which ones would work best.
 
The Dermatherm is not a stimulant, but it’s a strong thermogenic and anti-catabolic. (fat burning/muscle preserving)

You can stack it with just about any stimulant with great results. (lipoflame, ECA, clen, ect) Or our newest product Tea-3. Guys on this stack are reporting awesome results so far.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
The Dermatherm is not a stimulant, but it’s a strong thermogenic and anti-catabolic. (fat burning/muscle preserving)

You can stack it with just about any stimulant with great results. (lipoflame, eca - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin, Clenbuterol, ect) Or our newest product Tea-3. Guys on this stack are reporting awesome results so far.

-Pp
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How is Dermatherm different than Yohimburn? - sorry if this sounds stupid
 
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i rate eca better then clen IMO sure others woudlnt and lipo is up there also.. lipo is especially good cause u can stack it with either of the 2 above and make a shyt kickin stack ..never tried dermatherm so i cant coment ..dnp is in a league of its own but i wouldnt ever advise sumone to do it because its dangerous and i see how people do careless cycles of gear and a careless cycle of dnp could kill
 
P A U L said:
i've been using xenadrine efx for my cardio and it's been great for me.

is it better than lipowhatever? i wouldnt know... but considering i have a contraindication to aspirin, i'm never gonna use these stackers ever again LOL

i've lost most of the fat % on me anyway so i have no need. planning on switching to MuscleMilk for my energy/fatburn now. cuz there's no aspirin in it :)
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lol not even comparable lipo is top notch and xenadrine efx is crap..
 
ICPERFECT said:
How is Dermatherm different than Yohimburn? - sorry if this sounds stupid
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Yohimburn claims to be a local spot reducer, which you only apply to small areas. (with stimulants)

Our product has no stimulants and is a full body fat reducing cream, meaning its absorbed and acts systemically.

-Pp
 
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