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Things are within range estradiol not to sure if because the readings are different than mine here in the us..
Couple questions
Did this issue occur before u started gear?
Or has this been a issue before steroids?
If it started after steroid use do u have bloods before u started gear the first time ?
I have found this .. Before I staters Trt I had bloods taken
Through the past three years I have many many bloods done lots that were "in range" but I still felt like crap!!!
Example my estrogen was at 26 I felt like crap my body likes my levels at 17-20 on the low end.. My test was in range at 680 but my body likes 800-900
So see just because the doctor says ur fine on paper does not mean ur body agrees ... Understand ?
If u have no base level bloods to to compare before the issues then it's hard as hell to determine .. U almost have to play around with ur levels to find out what ur body likes
That's what I did it took years to get dialed in
But thank god I had a good base from my first bloods to keep my trial and error narrow
I have a friend that his estrogen levels need to be at about 40 that's high for a guy but for him it works !!
Couple questions
Did this issue occur before u started gear?
Or has this been a issue before steroids?
If it started after steroid use do u have bloods before u started gear the first time ?
I have found this .. Before I staters Trt I had bloods taken
Through the past three years I have many many bloods done lots that were "in range" but I still felt like crap!!!
Example my estrogen was at 26 I felt like crap my body likes my levels at 17-20 on the low end.. My test was in range at 680 but my body likes 800-900
So see just because the doctor says ur fine on paper does not mean ur body agrees ... Understand ?
If u have no base level bloods to to compare before the issues then it's hard as hell to determine .. U almost have to play around with ur levels to find out what ur body likes
That's what I did it took years to get dialed in
But thank god I had a good base from my first bloods to keep my trial and error narrow
I have a friend that his estrogen levels need to be at about 40 that's high for a guy but for him it works !!
If anyone can help me convert the uk values to us values I can assist a bit more
Keep in mind prolactin is crazy sensitive if ur just slightly over what ur body likes it can cause issues
Mine jumped from 6.6 to 11 on 8 weeks tren without caber I still had sex drive but noticed it was suffering
That's not a big jump at all but it's enough to make a change
Ur body could be off by just a tad bit and it could be the culprit
Hormones are tricky
They all work together like a orchestra!! U start messing with the "tempo" to one all the others start to play at different tunes
Keep in mind prolactin is crazy sensitive if ur just slightly over what ur body likes it can cause issues
Mine jumped from 6.6 to 11 on 8 weeks tren without caber I still had sex drive but noticed it was suffering
That's not a big jump at all but it's enough to make a change
Ur body could be off by just a tad bit and it could be the culprit
Hormones are tricky
They all work together like a orchestra!! U start messing with the "tempo" to one all the others start to play at different tunes
Excellent help mate much appreciated
Ye fully understand about guideline values tbh the dr here are pretty useless imo
Been cycling steroids fir years peeviously no gyno problens till about my fifth year of cycling then id just take sime nolva and it would dissapear didnt even no what AIs were finally got gyno flare up again after pct about 3 years ago and just couldnt shift it this is my first cycle since
Ye fully understand about guideline values tbh the dr here are pretty useless imo
Been cycling steroids fir years peeviously no gyno problens till about my fifth year of cycling then id just take sime nolva and it would dissapear didnt even no what AIs were finally got gyno flare up again after pct about 3 years ago and just couldnt shift it this is my first cycle since
I have a couple buddies that have had it abd it's kinda like ur situation
They just could not get rid of it
They could
"Tame" it and keep it down but it was always there... Gyno is hard to reverse even if ppl tell u that u can it's typically when it's fresh or developing ..
But if u have had it a wile and it's developed the best option is surgery ..
Have had 4 buddies that have had it done cuz they could not get rid of it
They just could not get rid of it
They could
"Tame" it and keep it down but it was always there... Gyno is hard to reverse even if ppl tell u that u can it's typically when it's fresh or developing ..
But if u have had it a wile and it's developed the best option is surgery ..
Have had 4 buddies that have had it done cuz they could not get rid of it
Unfortunately surgery not an option at the minute
Though i could keep it at bay with low dise and ai not should i stop cycle? Obly run non aromitsing compoubds in the future? Or bite the bullet and just keep it natural? Any opinions?
The gyno is not that bad couldnt tell by looking at me just on or off cycle nipples seem always slightly itchy
Though i could keep it at bay with low dise and ai not should i stop cycle? Obly run non aromitsing compoubds in the future? Or bite the bullet and just keep it natural? Any opinions?
The gyno is not that bad couldnt tell by looking at me just on or off cycle nipples seem always slightly itchy
Hold on itchy nips is not gyno!?
Do u have a lump of itchy nips ?
It depends on what ur willing to do
Risk vs reward .... If u feel that u wanna cycle and keep ai and run the proper things to keep ur stuff in check u can do that but if u don't like dealing with it then don't mess with ur hormones
My nips got super itchy but no lumps just cuz they itch does not mean you have gyno
When I first got on Trt my doc did not give me a Ai
My e2 shot up to 146!!!! Nips were so jacked up but no lumps
I found that .25 mg Ed for my Ai is perfect some need more some less I just go off my bloods and morning wood
But u have to think of ur health and possible issues
I would research a good endocrinologist in ur area one that specializes in hormones
Make a appointment and talk to them
Do u have a lump of itchy nips ?
It depends on what ur willing to do
Risk vs reward .... If u feel that u wanna cycle and keep ai and run the proper things to keep ur stuff in check u can do that but if u don't like dealing with it then don't mess with ur hormones
My nips got super itchy but no lumps just cuz they itch does not mean you have gyno
When I first got on Trt my doc did not give me a Ai
My e2 shot up to 146!!!! Nips were so jacked up but no lumps
I found that .25 mg Ed for my Ai is perfect some need more some less I just go off my bloods and morning wood
But u have to think of ur health and possible issues
I would research a good endocrinologist in ur area one that specializes in hormones
Make a appointment and talk to them
How old are you ?
Stats ?
Stats ?
Dang dude 1 mg a day ur estrogen has to be crushed
