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STEVESMI 8 week shredder stack non suppressive and safe!

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A lot of guys have been messaging me who are overweight wanting to cycle steroids.. lets face it guys if you are over 15 or 16% body fat you just aren't going to be pleased with running a cycle.. you need to get your body fat down before you mess with steroids to get good results plus as Dylan illustrated in his article its not safe at all.

I put together a great shredder stack I wanted to share with you using a combination of 2 compounds which are non suppressive, safe to take if you are overweight (unlike steroids) and also perfect for those of you who want to bridge in between cycles and cut down. It also won't murder your wallet either.

1-8 GW 20mg everyday split dose. you will need 2 bottles if you want to save money you can do 10mg everyday using 1 bottle but its optimal for fat loss to hit 20mg everyday sarms1.com

1-8 T stack Rx. 3 caps per day.. you will need 2 bottles .. please click this link>>>> http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...ck-rx-no-17-special-prices-codes-1224963.html to find out where to buy and the latest codes

the GW and T stack work perfect together, your T levels will jump on the T stack which will aid your fat loss without aromatizing to estrogen which will keep water weight away. follow this to a tee combined with daily exercise and a good diet and you will shred. I recommend 10-20 minutes a day of morning cardio, and eliminating dairy/red meat/breads/sugars and increasing vegetables. you also want to drink A LOT of water or green tea, the more you drink the better to flush everything out.

if you can afford it for even better fat loss run the above stack for 12 weeks.
 
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Awesome idea here Steve. These are two very diverse things that can be incorporated into cycles in many different ways OR, you can just stack them together for great results as well and not worry about suppression
 
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^^^ thanks bro. I ran this stack myself as a bridge just recently for 8 weeks and took off 2 inches off my waist and lost 3.5% body fat. it was embarassing walking downtown the other day at an art festival and having to keep hiking up my jeans.. sucks that I just spent $300 on two pairs of new jeans that no longer fit me but oh well lol. just sharing my experience..
 
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nice!gw from sarms1..great choice
i personally like the osta/gw from sarms1 for a cycle with very little supression..Very little suppression that can easily negated with the proper supplementation.But then again, i have never used the teststack!

i will be following buddy!very interested
 
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excellent stack bro... i really like the concept and idea and it can definitely be extremely beneficial for people not wanting any sort of suppression... great concept bro...
 
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i have some hcgenerte left over and also half a bottle of GW......may give this a shot for 20days and see how it goes.

im saving for a house + wedding so any purchases over 20bux have to be discussed with the misses.

it blows
 
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Lou Super Man 123 said:
Holy cow! GW is really expensive!
No doubt it must be very effective but I can get 3 bottles of Lipo 6 Black for the price of 1 only bottle of GW.
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GW is not a stim bro.

anyone can put something together with a bunch of caffeine and slap a label on it and sell it for cheap. GW is like nothing else out there for fat loss.

and T stack is like nothing else out there as a T booster and supplement. they are in a class of their own
 
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stevesmi said:
GW is not a stim bro.

anyone can put something together with a bunch of caffeine and slap a label on it and sell it for cheap. GW is like nothing else out there for fat loss.

and T stack is like nothing else out there as a T booster and supplement. they are in a class of their own
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Yeah man, I wish I could afford them or a least to live close to where they are selled.

I'm aware of GW (I saw Dylan's videos) but I don't know T stack, I will read about it latelly I believe.

GW + swimming must do wonders.

I wonder what Test stack + Unleashed can do.

Damn I wish I could afford it !!!
 
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When it comes to spending money on your BODY there shouldnt be a budget. Some people buy and spend 500-1000 on belts wallets jeans etc but you cant spend the money to make your body look nice (with hard work of course)? Your opinions are your opinions but keep them to yourself instead of trying to act like a douch on a forum where people are trying to help others better themselves physically.

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T stack. its 12 supplements in 1 bottle so you are saving about $500 or so when you buy it.. and its not expensive at all.. if you use the code i listed you are essentially paying a bit over $100 for each bottle that lasts you up to 2 months. also anyone reading this can try it and if they don't lose fat on this stack by following what I wrote to a tee then by all means send it back and get your money back!! hell you can even PM me and yell at me if you want too i don't care cause I know this stack works based on the dozens of real life experiences plus the science behind it.
 
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Lou Super Man 123 said:
Wait to see Dylan's examples of good cycles and you will know the meaning of "expensive" :FRlol:

I could do a Dbol + Test + Deca + Proviron + GH + Insuline cycle and become a monster with the money of 1 Elite Fitness cycle :p
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really? you have any idea how much just gh alone costs? you think deca is cheap? lolll you know how much support you would need on a cycle like that? that comment makes no sense whatsoever... you don't know what your talking about bro... not in the least...
 
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dylangemelli said:
really? you have any idea how much just gh alone costs? you think deca is cheap? lolll you know how much support you would need on a cycle like that? that comment makes no sense whatsoever... you don't know what your talking about bro... not in the least...
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Heeeeeeeeey !! I was joking !!

Of course the GH alone for 4 months is about 2000 dollars (in my country).

It was a joke !!
 
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stevesmi said:
well first off you missed the part that this is a shredder stack that will not suppress you. that cycle you listed is way more expensive anyway, will shut you down hard, and is not suitable for someone who is overweight or looking to shred down between cycles.

you guys got to do a better job of understanding what this stack is for. its for LOSING FAT with zero suppression!! it is NOT a steroid cycle at all so lets not compare apples to oranges
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I was joking man, of course it has no sense because I was just messing around.
I would never touch that cycle even if I have the money, there's no reason for that, I guess that every guy who doesn't want to become pro only trains to look good to girls and you achieve that by matching the adonis index and you don't even need roids for that.

If I had the money and wanted to shred fat. your stack is by a clear mile the way to go.
 
Steve I gotta pick ur brain real quick... Is the reason you say no red meat solely for cuttin purposes or do you just go against it in general? If so , why? I eat steak as my "fat meal" daily, usally with steamed broccoli.
Other question why no dairy at all? I thought Chobani plain was g2g... Low cals and high protien and convient... Another meal I have daily is the big plain flavored Chobani with some natty protien granola... I think the total macros are somthing along these lines...
Protien 60g
Fat15g
Carbs 37
 
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BEAST420 said:
Steve I gotta pick ur brain real quick... Is the reason you say no red meat solely for cuttin purposes or do you just go against it in general? If so , why? I eat steak as my "fat meal" daily, usally with steamed broccoli.
Other question why no dairy at all? I thought Chobani plain was g2g... Low cals and high protien and convient... Another meal I have daily is the big plain flavored Chobani with some natty protien granola... I think the total macros are somthing along these lines...
Protien 60g
Fat15g
Carbs 37
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I have found too many 'fat guys' consume way too much red meat and dairy. really this thread is meant for those types of guys who are having a tough time losing weight, only because I get swamped with messages from guys who are that way who insist on juicing because they think it will help them lose weight when it is actually counter productive. this stack is a solution for those.

specificaly dairy is very bloaty and has a ton of sugar, so a lot of guys are best served cutting way down on their dairy consumption or even eliminating it during their cut and then later on they can gradually bring it back but in moderation.. i have an article that gets into the whole dairy thing on muscle research, i would check that out. red meat i do consume grass fed beef probably once or twice a month but not very much, again its okay in moderation but if you are trying to lose weight you definately do not want to have it very often especially if its not grass fed.

really to be honest someone who runs this stack will still lose fat even if they choose not to change their diet but if you were to incorporate my advice totally including the cardio aspect you would lose inches on your waist in those 8 weeks i am 99.9% confident.
 
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Theres a big difference between chiobani plain and flavored... The protein content is much higher in the plain and the sugar is much lower... If you want flavored then go with dannon light n fiit... I have greek yogurt everyday but its the right kinds and steve is right about keeping dairy and beef limited when cutting...
 
I don't touch any Chobani or any Greek yogert for that matter unless it's plain. I add some granola for taste.
But yes I completely agree with the idea of keeping dairy on the low side..
 
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BEAST420 said:
I don't touch any Chobani or any Greek yogert for that matter unless it's plain. I add some granola for taste.
But yes I completely agree with the idea of keeping dairy on the low side..
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read the ingredients man. 99% of the yogurt on the shelves is crap. there was one yogurt company that had Jamie Lee Curtis advertising for them if you remember and people fell for it hook, line, and sinker.. turns out they had HFCS in their yogurt as the sweetener!! you gotta know what you are eating.
 
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stevesmi said:
read the ingredients man. 99% of the yogurt on the shelves is crap. there was one yogurt company that had Jamie Lee Curtis advertising for them if you remember and people fell for it hook, line, and sinker.. turns out they had HFCS in their yogurt as the sweetener!! you gotta know what you are eating.
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exactly... INGREDIENTS TELL ALL... there are certain greek yogurts that are excellent but you have to read and understand... i would keep dairy to a minimum... one to two greek yogurts a day is plenty of dairy... beyond that, i would not have any more... i stick with that and it has always worked well... keep the sugar 7 grams or below and get the fat free... if its over 120 calories then its not what you want... the best ones for you are between 80-120 calories... the only flavored ones that are not high in sugar are danon light n fit... yoplait has a decent one but its gets up right at 10 grams of sugar which is too high with it... otherwise stick with plain...
 
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Not only that, here in my country is a tv show where scammers are exposed and a time ago, among other things, they exposed that a lot of yogurts lied on their nutritional information, so you can't base your decisions on that.
I would say that the first problem is to buy food made by the man, I understand Dylan because I'm that estrict too.
I never eat refined foods nor foods made by the man, I never eat dairy or red meat, I get my b12 with fish and my cholesterol with eggs.
You don't need red meat nor dairy, neither salt.
With 1 glass of celery you get all the sodium you need for the week, you get the iodine from the sea food, in my country is an algae that has about 100x more calcium than milk.
Dairy produces a mucus that sticks to your colon.
And I can continue forever, we think that because we are live we are healthy and that's not the case.
"Ok I'm breathing so whatever I'm doing is good and ok because I'm not dead yet" that's the trap.
On google are several sources of which additives are toxic, you can print it and carry it when you are shopping at the supermarket and then compare it with the package's ingredients.
 
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Fage also makes good plain yogurt. 0% is 18g protein and 2% is 20g protein. When I want to add flavor I just add natural cinnamon and it taste great.
 
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I have been getting tons of PM's from guys who have ran this shredder stack and have lost 2-3 inches on their waste in 8 weeks without the use of harmful diuretics or stims. and they feel great. I am so happy its working out so far.

anyone who would like to share their experience with my shredder stack feel free to tell us about it
 
I have been on Steve's protocol for more than a week now since joining the forum and I have lost 6 pounds and over an inch on my waist.. I have been following his system to a tee! I was a bit apprehensive because that T stack is pricey but I am so excited so far.. Its working!
 
henry100 said:
I have been on Steve's protocol for more than a week now since joining the forum and I have lost 6 pounds and over an inch on my waist.. I have been following his system to a tee! I was a bit apprehensive because that T stack is pricey but I am so excited so far.. Its working!
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yeah bro like I told you in the PM's if you put your heart and discipline into it you will be shocked at the results.. keep it up bro and keep us all updated!

if anyone is looking for the best deal on T stack always hit me up
 
I'm just the type of guy for whom Steve said he designed this stack. I cycled some in the past but have recently fallen down on the training and diet and put on weight faster than I thought was humanly possible. All my own fault, but fortunately that means I can change what's wrong. I'm going to take his advice and go for the twelve weeks. I've got the GW and Test Stack ordered and hope to begin next week. I'll let you know how it goes.

By the way, Steve, thanks for all the advice via PM. Your experience and your common sense are pure gold. You are a brick! Once the bf is down, I'm looking forward to getting your help on the next step.
 
optimumwarrior said:
I'm just the type of guy for whom Steve said he designed this stack. I cycled some in the past but have recently fallen down on the training and diet and put on weight faster than I thought was humanly possible. All my own fault, but fortunately that means I can change what's wrong. I'm going to take his advice and go for the twelve weeks. I've got the GW and Test Stack ordered and hope to begin next week. I'll let you know how it goes.

By the way, Steve, thanks for all the advice via PM. Your experience and your common sense are pure gold. You are a brick! Once the bf is down, I'm looking forward to getting your help on the next step.
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you are going to kick ass, don't worry
 
Hey man if your still down time to get back after it and time to get back on the horse training back on point but dont want to rely on the bottle do work then do work
 
What about eggs. Thats dairy. I usually go with 6 whites and 2 whole eggs ????


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Hi Steve, I'm definitely interested in running this. Can the rx be delivered to the uk?


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mikkeltaylor said:
Hi Steve, I'm definitely interested in running this. Can the rx be delivered to the uk?


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yes it can.. it ships worldwide, same with the GW

http://w3.teststackrx.com/109.html <<< click that.. scroll down to the bottom and you will see a link for 'international orders' .. click that and you can order ..

message me if you have any issues.
 
stevesmi said:
yes it can.. it ships worldwide, same with the GW

http://w3.teststackrx.com/109.html <<< click that.. scroll down to the bottom and you will see a link for 'international orders' .. click that and you can order ..

message me if you have any issues.
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Ah ok cool, just struggled initially think maybe the amazon link. Will try a bit later then let you know if any probs, cheers!


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Ordered my gw yesterday, but waiting for that before placing the test stack order. Will it be ok to start on the gw for a couple of weeks before the other stuff arrives? I already have some tribulous. Can I use that instead for those two weeks?


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mikkeltaylor said:
Ordered my gw yesterday, but waiting for that before placing the test stack order. Will it be ok to start on the gw for a couple of weeks before the other stuff arrives? I already have some tribulous. Can I use that instead for those two weeks?


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yeah but the T stack arrives within a couple days once you order it.

you must keep your T levels strong during your cut down or you will go completely catabolic
 
Ok cool, gotcha. Once gw arrives I'll order the test stack and start a few days later. Cheers Steve :-)


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not being a party pooper..but...didnt they discontinued GW bcoz of its cancer causing potential? that's one serious side...we're talkin about cancer here... :(
 
nooneknosme said:
not being a party pooper..but...didnt they discontinued GW bcoz of its cancer causing potential? that's one serious side...we're talkin about cancer here... :(
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we've already talked about GW and cancer ad naseum on this board, try doing a search and learning the facts on it.

it wasn't discontinued because of cancer, it was discontinued because of WADA banned it ahead of 2008 Olympics, if you are still not comfortable running GW then you can run the T stack solo and up your cardio a bit to make up the difference
 
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mikkeltaylor said:
Ok cool, gotcha. Once gw arrives I'll order the test stack and start a few days later. Cheers Steve :-)


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this is a very simple starter stack but you should love it!
 
jb2012ny said:
Can i do this stack along an eca stack
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absolutely.. its totally safe and will not suppress your HPTA whatsoever

I do recommend this stack over ECA because in no way is it a stim.. that means it will not effect your sleep or make you loopy. on the contrary it will actually strengthen your heart
 
Steve,

Bump on thread, solid information that is still relevant. I've been searching for additional details on nutrition part diet starting this stack Monday for 12 wk run. Should I get hung up on macros? Been playing with 1-1.2 g protein per lb and then backfilling remaining calories 80/20 carbs to fat first half of week - then reversing 20/80 carbs to fat remainder of week, about 2200 cals a day. Clean, no red meat, no dairy, a little unsweetened almond milk with a protein shake in afternoon, but I think it is non dairy. I'm 46, sitting at 5'6 and 222. I lift big and hard, and results show but bf % must go down. Appreciate your wisdom.
 
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