Starting on Anavar with a few quest.

[*Bunny*]

Ok, I understand the P,F,C ratio but the cals are not going to be to high? I am looking to lose right now. I mean the cals would be at 1700. Is the number you gave for maintaining or losing?

When I started my Project in Jan 05, I was eating probably 1700-2000 cals a day. As a base, I used the 40/30/30 combined with a diet/training Program, and eventually added additional health supplements from the AF Store...

Here are some Before Progression Photos
http://elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4565170&postcount=641

These were Taken In April
http://elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4804107&postcount=1797

I cannot stress how important it is to get your diet on track = #1 DIET

 

[foreigngirl]

When I started my Project in Jan 05, I was eating probably 1700-2000 cals a day. As a base, I used the 40/30/30 combined with a diet/training Program, and eventually added additional health supplements from the AF Store...

Here are some Before Progression Photos
http://elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4565170&postcount=641

These were Taken In April
http://elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4804107&postcount=1797

I cannot stress how important it is to get your diet on track = #1 DIET

Girl, you look incredible!!!

 

[*Bunny*]

Girl, you look incredible!!!

Thank you. I truly appreciate ALL the compliments as if they were the 1st ones and I am VERY sincere & serious about my log (sometimes too serious but hey, it's my life & the way I manage)...

Seriously, for years...YEARS, I did not give the diet a second thought...and finally I just TRIED the 5-6 meals a day, eating every 3 hours, added my great diet/training program (Thank you Shadow), a few supps (Thank you AF Store & Ulter) and BAM...it worked...who knew?!

P.S. Again (multiplied by a few mill) I Love the people I have met here and how helpful/supportive everyone is...every little bit counts

 

[Rhealite]

OK, I have looked at Shadows workout summary and the diet and I printed it to see about giving it a try. I am a bit concerned about not have a large variety of things to eat but I saw your pics Bunny and they look great. Granted I am no where close to that the plan must have been something good. The plan that he se up for the workout goes on a weekly basis right? I just printed off the first post and then noticed that there were more later in the thread.

 

[*Bunny*]

OK, I have looked at Shadows workout summary and the diet and I printed it to see about giving it a try. I am a bit concerned about not have a large variety of things to eat but I saw your pics Bunny and they look great. Granted I am no where close to that the plan must have been something good. The plan that he se up for the workout goes on a weekly basis right? I just printed off the first post and then noticed that there were more later in the thread.

The diet and plan are basic. The Shadow Project thread outlines several weeks of different training routines, giving you a little something different each week, helped me from being bored. There is TONS of info on her to help start you attain your goal, but the Project is outlined for you if you're looking for something to follow right away.

The 'Project' should be tweaked to the individual as well as your goals, and I would suggest adjusting the meals to meet your needs (within REASON). I am VERY picky eater, but generally, you can switch out some of the foods (i.e. I hate tuna so I eat chicken, maybe brown rice for crackers etc). Also, be sure to schedule a reward meal once a week to keep you sane and your body satisfied to avoid binging . If that happens, brush yourself and start again....

The ladies can make a TON of suggestions no matter what you choose to do. Be sure to read ALL the Stickies that Sassy kindly posted up top heart: u Sass) and ask away.

Best of luck

 

[Rhealite]

Can I ask how long the training program is for? How long b4 you started to notice a change? It looks like you were in really good shape when you started.

 

[Sassy69]

The original program started in January & runs for about 12-14 weeks? Your progress will be sort of dependent on you and your body, but generally you should start seeing results within the first 1-3 weeks. Like we've said, you may or may not see the scale move, but you should notice two things - feeling more energy and probably notice your clothes are looser, i.e. bodyfat dropping. It takes you a few weeks generally to establish the habits that make this whole process easier and more predictable and also some time for your body to adjust to the changes.

 

[*Bunny*]

Can I ask how long the training program is for? How long b4 you started to notice a change? It looks like you were in really good shape when you started.

Well, I think I jumped in at week or two/three...but there's enough workouts (weekly) from January until April 11th, by that time you should be able to be on your own.

My pre-project stats are posted on the 1st post of my log. Before that, in Nov/Dec 04, I was 185+, and I'll just say those pics I posted were the 'good ones' at 171 lbs, so I'll STFU & take the compliment.

To answer your question, Based on MY own personal results, the weekly changes were there, which is why I posted my week to week stats with pics, body fat %'s and measurements. However, I cannot say that will be the same for you, and don't expect to see results overnight, because there is NO quick fix.

You can do this naturally and IMO, you should. I will tell you that you should see some major changes if you clean up your diet, add a good training routine (several outlined on here) and when you're ready and have a set schedule, you can always add some supps from the AF Store.


Hope this helps...

(Be sure to address any underlying health issues as well)

 

[Sassy69]

Well phooey. I just spent the last 20 min digging thru the archive trying to find the thread about how much total weight / bodyfat was lost by the EF Ladies board, several of the girls following the Shadow Project and it was significant! Rest assured that a diet & training program executed with 100% consistency and patience will produce results, often when you least expect it.

 

[Rhealite]

Thanks guys. I just had to get my head out of my butt and make some sort of decision. I know that we are all different and it may take me some time but I have got to do something. My genetics are not the greatest when it comes to being lean so I am going to have to fight that but with your help I think I can do this. I will also be doing this with the hubby so that should make it a little easier. It sucks when one of us isn't eating very clean. It really makes you want to cheat. He has a way of pushing me b/c he has known me long enough to push the right way.

I hope to be back soon with good news about myself but until then I am going to keep reading all that you guys can dish out to me. Thanks again and this isn't the last you have seen of me!