Starting cycle! How many calories?

[Anakin]

I'm starting a short cycle on monday, I want to put on as much muscle as possible with as little fat as possible, but I don't want to compromise my gains.

I was like 194-196lbs 2 weeks ago, now I'm down to like 185-186 because I'm cutting before my cycle begins. I'll probably be 182-184 with 12-13% bf when I start.

My plan: 400 grams protein, 300 grams carbs, 100 grams fat, for a total of 3700 calories. What do you think?

It boils down to 67 grams of protein per meal, bw 10-20 grams of fat per meal, and 100 grams of carbs with breakfast and 100 post workout, with the remaining 100 split between two meals. I'll avoid carbs in my last two meals. (6 meals total).

Help is greatly appreciated!

Cycle consists of mostly primo (400mg), with some dbol and low dose of test.

 

[STEP OFF]

if you're on cycle, you'll want more calories that that. shoot for a 40/40/20 p/c/f approach, you'll be massive

btw, your cycle looks awful. test should be the foundation of every and any cycle, especially a bulking one (you're only doing a low dose of it). check the anabolics forum for more advice

 

[Musmar]

I would increase the test and lower the primo to 200-300mg bro. Test should always be the main injectable in a good cycle! As far as your diet is concerned, increase your calories to at least 4500 for better results.

 

[Anakin]

Bump.

How many calories recommended to avoid getting fat? I want to do a "lean bulker", no point in gaining too much fat.

 

[STEP OFF]

b/c u'll be "on" you have an advantage over the average person in terms of how much fat you'll put on. at least 4500cals, but more around 5000+ for best results

 

[Mr.X]

I was like 194-196lbs 2 weeks ago, now I'm down to like 185-186 because I'm cutting before my cycle begins. I'll probably be 182-184 with 12-13% bf when I start.

My plan: 400 grams protein, 300 grams carbs, 100 grams fat, for a total of 3700 calories. What do you think?
I don't see why this is a problem, it's about weight x 20; you can go for about weight x 16-18 to keep fat gains down

It boils down to 67 grams of protein per meal, bw 10-20 grams of fat per meal, and 100 grams of carbs with breakfast and 100 post workout, with the remaining 100 split between two meals. I'll avoid carbs in my last two meals. (6 meals total).

Help is greatly appreciated!

Cycle consists of mostly primo (400mg), with some dbol and low dose of test.
make sure your have real primo

Mr.X

 

[Anakin]

Yep my primo is 100% real! Got it at drugstores back home where the shit is not controlled (in the middle of South America).

So Mr. X you think 3700 is good, not necessary to go to 4500? I don't want to compromise gains but I don't want to get fat.

BTW, how's the idea of avoiding carbs in the last two meals? Good, bad?

And, I have r-ala. Should I use it or do I want a lot of insulin after my carbs?

 

[Mr.X]

So Mr. X you think 3700 is good, not necessary to go to 4500? I don't want to compromise gains but I don't want to get fat.
I doubt you need 10000 calories to gain, for primo is notorious for allowing muscle gain w/ minimal calories, so go w/ 3700. Remember, this thought of eating 10,000 calories while bulking is just a rumor spread by people not too sure of how to control their bulking diet.

BTW, how's the idea of avoiding carbs in the last two meals? Good, bad?bad, I would suggest at least having some carbs the 2nd meal before bed and you can cut them out right before, but make sure to add protein/fiber/Aminos

And, I have r-ala. Should I use it or do I want a lot of insulin after my carbs? use it

Mr.X