Small town right winged bullshit. Kid may go to prison for 5 years for having marijua

[Robert Jan]

I think the main thing thats fucked up here is not that he got punished, but how much

 

[jh1]

Re: Small town right winged bullshit. Kid may go to prison for 5 years for having mar

No one said it was right or wrong.
It's not like your homeboy was under the impression it was LEGAL to drive around with pot in his car (on school grounds).

The "Oh my bad, I didn't know this was a controlled substance." defense, really doesn't get him out of it.

Is that like: "Oh My Bad. I didn't know that was Computer Trespass... a Federal Crime that is, at the very least, a Class C Felony - so therefore - since the LAW IS THE LAW - I am going to turn myself in and serve my time"

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[crew9]

Re: Small town right winged bullshit. Kid may go to prison for 5 years for having mar

I agree.

As shitty as the situation is, the law is still the law.

And I'm sure you've never broken the law

 

[Code]

Re: Small town right winged bullshit. Kid may go to prison for 5 years for having mar

If you're dumb enough to get caught, sure.

Is that like: "Oh My Bad. I didn't know that was Computer Trespass... a Federal Crime that is, at the very least, a Class C Felony - so therefore - since the LAW IS THE LAW - I am going to turn myself in and serve my time"

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[Robert Jan]

Everybody basically has the duty to know the law. yet even law scholars dont know all of it.

weird thing

 

[biteme]

I don't think this has anything to do with George Bush.

It's a dumb law. Apathy has allowed the passage of dumb laws. Americans are apathetic. More of this will happen.

I feel bad for the kid though. Much of the US south is pretty backward even today.

Not that I agree with everything you say, but you are one of the most knowledgeable and educated members on this board. Tell me, who is responsible for the passage and sentence lengths for such unjust and hypocritical laws. Who benefits from these laws? How can we reverse them?

 

[Code]

Re: Small town right winged bullshit. Kid may go to prison for 5 years for having mar

Not that I agree with everything you say, but you are one of the most knowledgeable and educated members on this board. Tell me, who is responsible for the passage and sentence lengths for such unjust and hypocritical laws. Who benefits from these laws? How can we reverse them?

You (we, the people) are responsible for the laws. We voted for the legislators who put the laws into place.

Reverse them by getting involved with state and local legislation, either by voting, starting grass roots movements or by running for office yourself.

 

[TC2]

Re: Small town right winged bullshit. Kid may go to prison for 5 years for having mar

a cigarette in his car at school. My brother-in-law's son. He's from New York City and the teachers and principals in this small Texas hick town don't like him because he's not a southern bible thumper and likes to question their dumb asses. The assistant principal, looked him in the eye one day while he was eating lunch and said, "Son, you're gonna burn in hell." They found one marijuana cigarette in his car recently. Since it was on school property and he is seventeen, they want to try him as an adult. The district attorney and the school district told his father that they want to make an example out of him and prosecute him to the full extent of the law. 5 to 6 years in prison. "We don't want no drugs in our schools", they told his father. His mother is a New York City Attorney and she has hired one of the best defense attorneys in the area. CAN undefined YOU BELIEVE THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT? ALL OVER ONE MARIJUANA CIGARETTE. THEY WANT TO PUT HIM IN JAIL FOR 5 TO 6 YEARS. THIS COUNTRY HAS COME A LONG WAY SINCE THE CIVIL RIGHTS ERA. GOD, I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE ARE THIS IGNORANT TODAY. THESE ARE THE GEORGE BUSH, RUSH LIMBAUGH, POINK SUPPORTERS.

Coincidentally, the assistant principal who told him that he was going to burn in hell is the one who supposedly found the marijuana cigarette in his car. There were no other witnesses. This principal nearly lost his job over this comment. I think the defense wil eat their fucking lunch. Hypocritical stupid bastards.

Sound like when I moved fom Califonia to backwards Hillbilly ass Texas.

I got all kinds of shit from teachers(who didn't know me at al). Granted I did move to a VERY VERY small town.

I remember getting expelled for beating the fuck outta some coaches that actually tried to start an actual fight with me.

People in places like that do indeed have a god complex, mostly because the residents are so ignorant they don't know any better.

 

[biteme]

Re: Small town right winged bullshit. Kid may go to prison for 5 years for having mar

You (we, the people) are responsible for the laws. We voted for the legislators who put the laws into place.

Reverse them by getting involved with state and local legislation, either by voting, starting grass roots movements or by running for office yourself.

It's that simple huh? Why don't all of us get together and start a grass roots movements to repeal the anabolic steroids control act of 1990 that categorized them as a scheduled 3 drug, which greatly increases punishment if caught in possession. ? The bill signed by Pres. Bush. Think we can do it?

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Not that I agree with everything you say, but you are one of the most knowledgeable and educated members on this board. Tell me, who is responsible for the passage and sentence lengths for such unjust and hypocritical laws. Who benefits from these laws? How can we reverse them?

This is really such a hard question, because it is answerable on so many levels.

The machinations of passing the laws are handled by state legislatures, and the federal government through Congress. But I doubt that was what you meant.

The day to day responsibility lies with the elected leaders who pass the laws. The ultimate responsibility lies with the people, since power derives from the people.

Who benefits? Well, that's a tough one. This could be a long discussion. The chief beneficiaries of anti-drug legislation are

-pharmaceutical companies. They want you on drugs. Theirs. And they want to keep the competition illegal.

-corrections employees and police officers. More money in the budget means more cops, more money, more overtime, more "bad guys" to chase, more perceived viability, higher status in the community. (In related news, the FBI is hiring like mad post 9/11)

How to reverse them? It's simple. Information and action. Politicians respond to the voices they hear in the community: for example, some nimrod somewhere came out and said "If you're caught selling or using drugs on school grounds as an adult, we can give you 5 years".

And people came out and said "That person is really tough on crime. Yeah! Let's keep the drugs out of schools! We'll show them".

Elected leaders often need an "enemy" to keep power. Think about it - if everything was going "just peachy", why would you need to keep people in power? Bush has terrorism. John Kerry, to get power, has to paint this picture of the "horrors" of the Bush admin. But regardless of who wins, day to day life won't change a lot.

State and local politicians love to use crime as the "bad guy". never mind that the waron drugs has failed miserably. never mind that the US has more peple in prison than China. We need to be "tough on crime DAMMIT"

If people ever stopped and said, "Hey, um, this isn;t working", then maybe things might change. But a politician will never come out and say that. Politicians are like consultants - they look at your watch and tell you what time it is. We (voters) have to give them a mandate. Most people don't even know who their elected leaders are.

We're in deep shit.