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bodybuildingislife1
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Just wondering what you guys thought??? Saw a few pics of him earlier today and he looks a bit juiced....but anybody know anything different??? 
Skip La Cour Is he Really natural???
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Of course he is natural. Didn't most of us look like that before using gear?
bodytemple75
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Not sure. He may not take anabolic steroids, but may take GH or maybe he does take some of the "lighter" steroids, and in what would seem "smaller" doses. Or, maybe he does neither. Maybe he is just like Arnie, and the other guys, what and how they trained in the 70's. With or without lighter drugs. Who knows....he may very well be somewhat natural. Anything is possible. Now, if we were talking about the Mr. Olympia, Ronnie Coleman,.....there is no question there he is juicing. No way the human body can carry, sustain, or produce that much muscle without help from the outside. A lot of guys have good genitics, and train and eat really hard,...maybe Skip is natural after all...Like I said,....Who knows...??? Possibility...
powerforward
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only skip knows for sure.
if he is, i would say he has incredible genetics.
if he is, i would say he has incredible genetics.
bodybuildingislife1
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yeah but pro hormones dont make you like that....yeah i think only he knows... : 
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Come on guys. He has an hgh gut. Prior to hgh, igf-1 etc did you EVER see a single competative bodybuilder with a waistline that thick or a buldging gut when shreaded and dry? "Only he knows for sure?" doesn't agree with the evidence.
The_Eviscerator
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Skip La Cour is really not that big. I can believe he is natural.
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evicerator, his lack of size is not proof. I know a guy who used 2.5 grams a week w/ hgh when on cycle and it 200 lbs with a gut. If he is natural, how do you explain his roid gut and overly wide waistline?
bigp3
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you might be shocked what some people can do naturally. I have a good friend of mine that placed 1st in nationals about 10 years ago in his weight class and missed his pro card by one spot. This freak has never touched a thing. He has not worked out in over 4 years and still has nearly 19 inch arms with sub 10 % body fat levels. Some people are mutants and it pisses me off since I wish I was,,, lol.
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bigp, oh, I agree, you would be surprised by what can be achieved by some individuals anturally. However how does one get an hgh gut without drugs? Is there a suppliment that can do this, or does he just do weighted crunches with 405 loaded on a bar on his chest?
bodybuildingislife1
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most pics i have seen of skip his waist is not protruding....i mean compared to like ronnie etc....i mean they look like there intestines are gong to po out any min!!! 
PoonRaider
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wtf man. . . If you're gonna talk about someones phisique, POST A PIC, so us lazy ppl don't have to go search for one to answer your goddamn question!
shortstack
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skip and i are at the same gym...
he IS big first of all.
he DOES use gear.
stop being REDICULOUS!
if skip was natural as he is, dont you think he would start gearing his ass off so he could be up there with ronnie?
he IS big first of all.
he DOES use gear.
stop being REDICULOUS!
if skip was natural as he is, dont you think he would start gearing his ass off so he could be up there with ronnie?
bigp3
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My biz partner was once a bodybuilder and actually placed second in his weight class at nationals one year. This mother has not touched a barbell in years, eats like shit and looks like a million bucks. He looks like with about 3 months of training he could get back on the national stage. My point, some people are genetic mutants. Maybe skip is maybe he isn't, but only he knows the answer to that.
SuperDawgy
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Why does is matter if he is or is not natural? I've seen him compete at the Team Universe. He looks good, but not national caliber. Why worry about who is using and who isn't? I will say this, i've got one of his training videos and his form is as sloppy as anyone i have ever seen.
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SuperDawgy said:
We car because he makes such a big deal about being "the best natural bodybuilder in the world". He has made his name from claiming to be natural.
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BodyByFinaplix said:
Darrem Charles also "claims" to be natural and he looks 1000% better than Skip. Mike Ashley was once on the "All Natural" bandwagon. All i'm saying is that if Skip can back up what he says...its all good. BUT, and i reiterate, BUT if he isn't what he says he is and he gets caught slipping then he proves himself to be a liar and a cheat. Correct?
BodyByFinaplix said:
Yeah, creatine.
I'm a natural.... with a cut bloaded gut. Have this all my life. I first noticed this when I was 9. Especially when I'm on creatine, my guts sets up.
I haven't seen any recent Skip pics, so I can't judge his. But it is possible. And ever seen a pic of those Ethiopian kids with their big bellies?
coldblue1955
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i guess he juices like stan mcquay does.bodybuildingislife1 said:Just wondering what you guys thought??? Saw a few pics of him earlier today and he looks a bit juiced....but anybody know anything different???
gymratforlife
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Mcquay has a sick build.coldblue1955 said:
MASSIVEMONSTER
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shortstack said:
Awesome post. I always thought this. All these bullshitting tossers who say there natural like the Musclemania guys, Tito Raymond, Stan McQauy, Skip, etc are talking horseshit.
Skip competes at like 215 or so at 5`10. Like you said If he was natural, he would juice and be up to 240-250 on stage and be a top pro.
I knew a guy once who was in awesome shape year round at 5`8 he was 215 at 7-8% with 19 inch guns and said he was natural. If he juiced he`d be a top pro on stage at 225-230 for a 5`8 guy. I hate bullshitters.
gymratforlife
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I know Tito and Jose Raymond personally they were from wakefield mass the neighboring town next to mine were I grew up and I knew them all through highschool.You could never get neither of those fuckers to admit they took a drop of juice.All of my friends were on and they would kinda look down on juicers.MASSIVEMONSTER said:
MASSIVEMONSTER
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I cant see how Tito can be natural. Firstly hes a naturally skinny guy with little calves and ankles and he squats 495 for 10, dumbell presses 125 for 6, has a one rep on deadlift of 630lb. He is very strong and in excellent shape at 195 at 5`7. If he has never juiced like he says he hasnt and people believe then IF he was to juice for a couple of years he`d be a 230lb pro who would deadlift about 800lb and squat 600+ for 10 reps. bollocks.
gymratforlife
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The main thing about Tito is that he stays shredded all year round,I dont think he has gained a pound in years.He has had those same stats for ever so he could very well be natural.I have pretty close to the same stats as him except he is a fe3w bodyfat percentages leaner and I look no were near his size because the way he is built,he has a tiny waist and wide back,so a lot of it is genetics for him.MASSIVEMONSTER said:
MASSIVEMONSTER
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Yeah I am 5`8 1/2 and am looking to diet down to 205 this summer at about 6%.. I was 205 last summer at 7.3% so I have gained 3lb of muscle, not much but its ok.
Tito is about 5`7 at 195 at 6% so I will be similar in size to him, will be interesting if I can get 6-7% and maintain it. It`d be awesome if I could, had enough of being 12% body fat...
Even if he is on gear hes still got a fantastic physique.
Tito is about 5`7 at 195 at 6% so I will be similar in size to him, will be interesting if I can get 6-7% and maintain it. It`d be awesome if I could, had enough of being 12% body fat...
Even if he is on gear hes still got a fantastic physique.
Know him, Colorado Sponsor for AST... Didn't believe it till I met him, and had a semi training session at AST's in house gym. For his size at the time he had the strength of a gorilla. All natural, his resolve and genetics have put him where he is. I compare it to having genetics condusive to that of Luke Longly (know him too, basketball, Australian, and close to seven feet) But instead of height he got the "girth".
MASSIVEMONSTER
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what sort of strength we talking about here?
Mavafanculo
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I saw a few pics of him with tear ass veinage snaking all over him, and cut like a motherfucker - size or no size, he aint natural
i knew skip very well. he is what he says he is and in person he is not big like you would associate steriods with. he got his ass whipped in the nationals compare him to others which was years ago. he is older, been lifting heavy for a long time, and has great thickness from his training. meet him in person he has no look like guys who do steriods and watch him train and listen to his therioes like salt loading. knowing him as i do and being in sacramneto in the same gym he to me is truly natural 100% no doubt.
Powerbuilder333
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I give him the benifit of the doubt.
Mavafanculo
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Powerbuilder333 said:
Is that a new steroid?
rompperstomper
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he is def natural... i mean look at him in 2003 after 15 years of training come on he would be a monster if he were geared..he is only like 215
rompperstomper
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I just asked skip on his site if he is natural and how he gets suck freaky cuts and veins.. he replied to me he used thimocase cream twice a day for 3 months before a show and it sucks the water out from under his skin and makes his skin tighter..creating the illusion of being bigger and more cut then he is.
he then went on to tell me in the pics you see on stage he only looks like that for a few weeks some times days and the rest of the time he is lean but smooth around 10% bf.he went on about special camera lenses and professional photograpers that know what angles to take pics out to create illusions of being bigger then he was.
makes sense I rember seeing pics of arnold on the beach and not posed back in the mid seventies he didnt look very big at all but when pumped up, oiled up and posing he looked like he gained 40lbs and became a freak of nature for the pics. good example is when arnold walks into golds in pumping iron in just a regular tshirt he didnt look big at all untill after he pumped up.
skip went on about diet and nutrition caloric intake I would say he knows his shit and is natural.
he only weighs in around 215lbs at 5'10 with his thick waiste and meso/edndo large frame thats not really big at all. Now if he were a ecto with a 27 inch waiste I would say he is a roid freak but not with the size of his wrist and waiste size . he looks like a genetically gifted person . he will never be a flex wheeler or a shawn ray no matter if he jucied or not becuase of his bone size but for being natural he is at the top of his class.
I would say anyone that thinks skp is not natural would prob be just jealous becuase they need roids and skip dose not.
skip did get his ass kicked in the early 90's to late 90's it was not untill after 10 years of training did he finally have mature muscles to really show off his wheels ..
he then went on to tell me in the pics you see on stage he only looks like that for a few weeks some times days and the rest of the time he is lean but smooth around 10% bf.he went on about special camera lenses and professional photograpers that know what angles to take pics out to create illusions of being bigger then he was.
makes sense I rember seeing pics of arnold on the beach and not posed back in the mid seventies he didnt look very big at all but when pumped up, oiled up and posing he looked like he gained 40lbs and became a freak of nature for the pics. good example is when arnold walks into golds in pumping iron in just a regular tshirt he didnt look big at all untill after he pumped up.
skip went on about diet and nutrition caloric intake I would say he knows his shit and is natural.
he only weighs in around 215lbs at 5'10 with his thick waiste and meso/edndo large frame thats not really big at all. Now if he were a ecto with a 27 inch waiste I would say he is a roid freak but not with the size of his wrist and waiste size . he looks like a genetically gifted person . he will never be a flex wheeler or a shawn ray no matter if he jucied or not becuase of his bone size but for being natural he is at the top of his class.
I would say anyone that thinks skp is not natural would prob be just jealous becuase they need roids and skip dose not.
skip did get his ass kicked in the early 90's to late 90's it was not untill after 10 years of training did he finally have mature muscles to really show off his wheels ..
gnormous
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhh He`s Completly Natural............................are You Kiddin Me Lol He`s A Pin Cushsion Just Like The Rest Of Us!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously I Know Guys Builders Myself Included Who Have Taking A Ton Of Gear Worked There Asses Off Ate /diet Properly Hired Guyd Like Charles Glass To Get Them Ready For Shows And Never Looked That Good And It Was Not For Lack Of Tryin, If He Is Natural Them He Is My New Hero Hats Off To Hin But I Doubt It! ~g~
rompperstomper
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gnormous said:
NO MATTER HOW MUCH JUICE OR AS HARD AS YO U TRAIN OR YOUR FRIENDS TRAIN WITH CHARLES GLASS WILL NOT CHANGE YOUR GENETICS AND TURN YOU INTO A PRO BODYBUILDER YOU ETHER HAVE IT OR YOU DONT.
PLEASE PLACE YOUR HAT ON THE FLOOR AND SALUTE YOUR HERO SKIP!
rompperstomper
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you mean you cant get that 3-d look with out steroids... some people have the genetics to get that way without them...some people never walk into a gym and have more muscle then guys that have trained for 5 years...vargasty said:
LOL this is why the US government gets away with the shit it does. They tell people shit and many believe it. Use your head guys, "that's the lump 3 feet above your ass". Just open your eyes and look at this guy. "Genetics" largely govern skin thickness, waist size, muscle insertions, strength, and metabolic rate. Skip works his ass off that's for sure, but trust me, he is not natural. Do you know how incredibly easy it is to cheat in "natural" competitions?? There's no assay for GH first of all, second, you could use pretty much anything except Deca, EQ, and the longer test esters at insane doses, then cut it down to test prop or suspension closer to a show.
And why the hell would you want to be known as one of the elite "natural" competitors?? Let's face it, natural bodybuilding is like watching special olympic hurdlers. I do not agree with the current era of the freak, but skip has similar physiques as arnold, franco, frank zane (but much bigger), etc, and they ALL juiced for many, many years.
Oh and for the record, Ronnie was on Jay Leno's tonight show a year or 2 ago in full offseason weight (330 I think) and he said he didn't use steroids, but was a "genetic freak".
And why the hell would you want to be known as one of the elite "natural" competitors?? Let's face it, natural bodybuilding is like watching special olympic hurdlers. I do not agree with the current era of the freak, but skip has similar physiques as arnold, franco, frank zane (but much bigger), etc, and they ALL juiced for many, many years.
Oh and for the record, Ronnie was on Jay Leno's tonight show a year or 2 ago in full offseason weight (330 I think) and he said he didn't use steroids, but was a "genetic freak".
extremefighter
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52_21_30 said:
Now thats funny. All of us here on EF are 100% natural just like Ronnie. Heck I do not even use creatine. LOL
rompperstomper
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yea look skip over real well he is 5'10 and 215lbs.. you have got to be kidding me if you think he is jacked . i'm 19 only been training for 8 months and weigh 225lbs at 5'10 have took one shot of eq 3 weeks ago and decided its not for me right now and stopped it untill i'm 21. I doubt the one shot did anything at all it was more of a mistake then anything else.
honestly I think if I train for a few years and diet down i'll eazily be able to get a big as skip no problem.
i'm just comparing him to myself and trying to see why people think he is roided. people have acused me of roids before i even lifted a weight due to all the concrete i break all day with sledge hammers make my foarms get bigger.
I meet people in my gym that say they have been working out for 5 years and i'm bigger then them... when i watch tme train all they do is talk talk talk drink some gatoraide and talk. I fucking lift and dont talk. If skip has genetic anything like me just tounching a weight makes him grow.
here is a pic after 8 months of training. just before i did the one shot of eq.. i'm only 19 iregret doing it and wont do it again untill i'm 21 i only get accused of roids by guys smaller then me everyone at the gym bigger never even thinks about roids... its gotta be genetics sorry guys some of us lift and grow with eaze...
I dont think ronnie coleman is 100% natural but i dont think he takes as many drugs as people accuse him of taking " boatloads" and such. he was the biggest becuase of his genetics all the roids in the world wont replace genetics.
honestly I think if I train for a few years and diet down i'll eazily be able to get a big as skip no problem.
i'm just comparing him to myself and trying to see why people think he is roided. people have acused me of roids before i even lifted a weight due to all the concrete i break all day with sledge hammers make my foarms get bigger.
I meet people in my gym that say they have been working out for 5 years and i'm bigger then them... when i watch tme train all they do is talk talk talk drink some gatoraide and talk. I fucking lift and dont talk. If skip has genetic anything like me just tounching a weight makes him grow.
here is a pic after 8 months of training. just before i did the one shot of eq.. i'm only 19 iregret doing it and wont do it again untill i'm 21 i only get accused of roids by guys smaller then me everyone at the gym bigger never even thinks about roids... its gotta be genetics sorry guys some of us lift and grow with eaze...
I dont think ronnie coleman is 100% natural but i dont think he takes as many drugs as people accuse him of taking " boatloads" and such. he was the biggest becuase of his genetics all the roids in the world wont replace genetics.
Gorilla65
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i know this is going to ruin some people's day, but i went to school with his daughter and hung out with her, he trained at my gym and i know for a definate FACT he is not natural. i have seen him buy from a friend and i don't want to disclose more details but i have proof. but who cares, i think people should just say out of other eople's life and live there own. he is strong though, i have seen him curl 225 with decent form, while i was doing 165 with him.
abolish the weak
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natural my ass, it takes one to know one, and Skip is def not natural. He's just really good at dropping his gear before a show and running short esters
Mavafanculo
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natural? bwahahahahahaha
look at pics of the best most genetically gifted world class bodybuilders pre-arnold before steroid use became common. do any look anywhere near as hard and vascular as skip?
look at pics of the best most genetically gifted world class bodybuilders pre-arnold before steroid use became common. do any look anywhere near as hard and vascular as skip?
Yeh, and I'm natural too...hahahahahaha.....I got my muscles from milk and oats LOL
maryth1967
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Skip is a pharmacist! He operated the pharmacy at Raley's Superstore in Pleasanton California 94566 for years. I watched him train and work at his own personal drug store. He is full of shit. He was first and last in that drugstore everyday getting his juice...please check it out! 1991-1994
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I dont judge so I cant say for sure but I havent seen SKIP around in awhile.
Is he still training and doing comps?
theronnathan
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he juices like most of the others in my opinion.
I believe there are some things he does not use. What I don't know nor do I really care.
I do personally know one guy that turned pro who I firmly believe was natural. Paul-Jean Guillaume. I doubt he ever set foot on stage weighing over 190 though. He was definitely a genetic freak. I never saw him sweat a single drop of sweat in years.
I do personally know one guy that turned pro who I firmly believe was natural. Paul-Jean Guillaume. I doubt he ever set foot on stage weighing over 190 though. He was definitely a genetic freak. I never saw him sweat a single drop of sweat in years.
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