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I remember reading on this site about a injectable drug that you shot into your love handles or any trouble spots and it helped break down the fat. Back in the day it was new and hadnt been tested that well. I'm looking to see if anyone has used it and if it works and where to get it?
 
Helios is the name of it… Made UG in Europe… Clen and Yohimbine.. I would suspect a good European source could nab it for ya!

Don’t ask me who that might be… I only use domestic!

My 2ml,

Taoiron
 
there is a few of them out there...i dont think the meso one is effective... the only one i think might be really effective is Prostaglandin F-2 alpha
 
IF pgf2a works locally, and since tren has pgf2a effects, would rubbing tren ace suspended in dmso work on love handles? Anybody tried this?
 
iron_horse said:
IF pgf2a works locally, and since tren has pgf2a effects, would rubbing tren ace suspended in dmso work on love handles? Anybody tried this?

sounds like a waste of tren to me. Just use it in a cycle and if your diet / cardio is on you will lose love handles
 
why do guys have the "quik fix" syndrome---diet and cardio== fat loss, lower BF% loss of love handles--thats it period--why is that so hard to understand
 
because people have different fat storage patterns, sensetivities to insulin, estrogens, progestins....ect. I dont get belly fat bad at all, but get terrible love handles.....i put on fat like a girl and sometimes it helps us who do cardio and follow a good diet but hormones/chemicals in our bodies make it hard to loose fat in certain areas.

Not to mention, when you become overweight, your body makes NEW fat cells and when you loose the weight, you keep the extra fat cells....with more fat cells than before, its easier to put weight pack on and harder to keep it off. I have that in my handles.
 
bigrand said:
because people have different fat storage patterns, sensetivities to insulin, estrogens, progestins....ect. I dont get belly fat bad at all, but get terrible love handles.....i put on fat like a girl and sometimes it helps us who do cardio and follow a good diet but hormones/chemicals in our bodies make it hard to loose fat in certain areas.

Not to mention, when you become overweight, your body makes NEW fat cells and when you loose the weight, you keep the extra fat cells....with more fat cells than before, its easier to put weight pack on and harder to keep it off. I have that in my handles.


i think your wrong on that bro-i beleive we are born with a pre-determined amount of fat cells---it how much those cells inflate or deflate that makes you fat or skinny--you can also besides liposuction never rid your body of fat cells--just deflate them
 
shape said:
i think your wrong on that bro-i beleive we are born with a pre-determined amount of fat cells---it how much those cells inflate or deflate that makes you fat or skinny--you can also besides liposuction never rid your body of fat cells--just deflate them

actually your number of fat cells you have usually is the same number that you have after puberty...but in some cases you can have fat cells divide when you are an adult

but for the most part you are right
 
shape said:
why do guys have the "quik fix" syndrome---diet and cardio== fat loss, lower BF% loss of love handles--thats it period--why is that so hard to understand

This is actually a simple answer for me, you can see my six pack and even a couple veins in my lower abs but my love handles hang over my shorts on my backside. front to back I look like two different people. So I'm looking for something other then lypo to get rid of the localized fat stores.
 
shape said:
i think your wrong on that bro-i beleive we are born with a pre-determined amount of fat cells---it how much those cells inflate or deflate that makes you fat or skinny--you can also besides liposuction never rid your body of fat cells--just deflate them

No, you are born witha pre-determined amount of WAT, but if you continue to over eat, the fat vacuoles fill to the point where there is no more room, you then undergo adipogenesis and you make NEW fat cells. Then you deplete the vacuoles, but still have the extra fat cells.

Fat vacuoles fill to the point where they cant expand, then they recruit PREADIPOCYTES which act with the full cells to make new adipocytes. You have both hypertrophic and hyperplastic changes when someone becomes quite overweight.
 
MTS said:
actually your number of fat cells you have usually is the same number that you have after puberty...but in some cases you can have fat cells divide when you are an adult

but for the most part you are right


Thats what i was saying, when you get real fat, you make new fat cells which you cant loose through simple cardio+diet, unless you are able to keep the weight off for a good period of time, which is hard since its easier to put it back on with the extra cells.

There are compounds that can induce apoptosis in WAT....EGCG, PGF-2A, IFN, CLA.....a few others.
 
shape said:
why do guys have the "quik fix" syndrome---diet and cardio== fat loss, lower BF% loss of love handles--thats it period--why is that so hard to understand

I would actually prefer NOT to do cardio 6 times a week and be on a calorie restricted diet. Call it a quick fix and call me lazy but it would be my preference. At my age nothing seems to come on that fast or get off that fast either.

But then again I am a fat slob...
 
I did this, used lipostabil with deoxycholate ( sp ) I did a few treatments with it. 30, 40, 80. shots each treatment, the shit hurts, the swelling is real bad, and lasts 3 weeks. Pain about a week. results are medioker at best. I will not use it again. on a 1-10 scale I give it a 3 not good.
 
mormussle said:
I did this, used lipostabil with deoxycholate ( sp ) I did a few treatments with it. 30, 40, 80. shots each treatment, the shit hurts, the swelling is real bad, and lasts 3 weeks. Pain about a week. results are medioker at best. I will not use it again. on a 1-10 scale I give it a 3 not good.

what is the deoxycholate used for? (seen it on animal's board but never understood its action)
 
I actually used that Lipostabil back around 2002. It came from Europe and it came in ampules but they were large ampules like 2 or 5 ml amps. The injections themselves were painless but then the site of injection would turn red, swell a bit and get hot and ichy for a few days. It would go away after 4 days or so. If you follow the instructions provided with it and do the complete cycle I think it did work pretty well. If you are already lean and just have a few problem spots (for me it was lower back) it really worked well. If you are a fat slob then don't waste your time. It is no miracle drug. I remember the source using the analogy of (if fat cells were grapes, this stuff basically acts to shrink them into raisns). I thought it was a good product and if you are getting ready for a show and just have a nagging area that won't lean out give it a try. If you are just lazy and don't want to diet and do cardio and are looking for a miracle drug, you will be disappointed.

MorganKane said:
 
Eurotrash said:
what is the deoxycholate used for? (seen it on animal's board but never understood its action)

the deoxy, is a sterilizing agent or detergent, used in lipostabil, and is thought to be the main reason the stuff works. Mine had a higher deoxy content then say regular lipostabil, so I think this why it hurt a lot more. I read a lot of mixed reviews on this stuff. Like I said I won't use it again.
 
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