Should daa be a staple for bodybuilders?

[Nelson Montana]

Sounds good. Since NMDA is what actually is used for testosterone production would it be better to skip simple DAA and buy NMDA. I would think that the conversion if daa to NMDA is not 100 percent so 30mg if daa would not be as effective as NMDA unless the absorption of NMDA is rather low which I doubt.

If you're looking for a good natty T booster, UNLEASHED is the best bang for you buck since it releases Free T and that's what counts. HCGen is good too because it has bulbine, which is a great total T builder and BRIDGE has Fadogia and pregnenolone which increases LH, which is what produces test in the first place. It's a bit of a science. But if you're to use just one, I'd say go with UNLEASHED.

 

[Phishtribe]

I've used unleaded with great results. I had it stacked with daa and an ai and a dicreatine malate. Results were great until I noticed that my blood pressure went out the roof so I stopped everything. Took nearly a month and a half for it to come back down. Not sure what it was that did it. Leaning towards the Creatine but it could also have been my pre workout. Anyways reason for this trend was simply to see if others found daa great enough to include as a staple to bodybuilding.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I've used unleaded with great results. I had it stacked with daa and an ai and a dicreatine malate. Results were great until I noticed that my blood pressure went out the roof so I stopped everything. Took nearly a month and a half for it to come back down. Not sure what it was that did it. Leaning towards the Creatine but it could also have been my pre workout. Anyways reason for this trend was simply to see if others found daa great enough to include as a staple to bodybuilding.

Creatine does nothing to increase test and will increase BP more than anything else. Not sure why your BP went up on DAA and UNLEASHED, there's nothing that should affect it.

 

[Headholio]

Why post when it takes 2 seconds "y'all" outta know how to type d-aspartic acid kidney damage PDF. PDF will often limit the search to peer reviewed journals. If u can't find one of the many then ill post

I looked for at least 4 seconds and didn't find anything. It is normal forum etiquette that if you are going to make a claim about something (DAA=kidney damage), then the onus is on you to provide the supporting documentation.

 

[Headholio]

Sounds good. Since NMDA is what actually is used for testosterone production would it be better to skip simple DAA and buy NMDA. I would think that the conversion if daa to NMDA is not 100 percent so 30mg if daa would not be as effective as NMDA unless the absorption of NMDA is rather low which I doubt.

I know a lot of people think that going to a gym and reading muscle and fitness magazine is the equivalent of having a PhD in biochemistry, but drawing logical conclusions without data is faulty logic. The only study I know that looked a human testosterone levels used sodium D-aspartate, (the sodium salt of DAA), not NMDA (a methylated form).
So, be careful when assuming a "similar" compound, even if part of the same metabolic chain, would produce similar results.

EDIT: Here's a journal artical saying that nmda is 100x less potent than DAA.

Abstract

Using two specific and sensitive fluorometric/HPLC methods and a GC-MS method, alone and in combination with D-aspartate oxidase, we have demonstrated for the first time that N-methyl-D-aspartate (NMDA), in addition to D-aspartate (D-Asp), is endogenously present as a natural molecule in rat nervous system and endocrine glands. Both of these amino acids are mostly concentrated at nmol/g levels in the adenohypophysis, hypothalamus, brain, and testis. The adenohypophysis maximally showed the ability to accumulate D-Asp when the latter is exogenously administered. In vivo experiments, consisting of the i.p. injection of D-Asp, showed that D-Asp induced both growth hormone and luteinizing hormone (LH) release. However, in vitro experiments showed that D-Asp was able to induce LH release from adenohypophysis only when this gland was co-incubated with the hypothalamus. This is because D-Asp also induces the release of GnRH from the hypothalamus, which in turn is directly responsible for the D-Asp-induced LH secretion from the pituitary gland. Compared to D-Asp, NMDA elicits its hormone release action at concentrations approximately 100-fold lower than D-Asp. D-AP5, a specific NMDA receptor antagonist, inhibited D-Asp and NMDA hormonal activity, demonstrating that these actions are mediated by NMDA receptors. NMDA is biosynthesized from D-Asp by an S-adenosylmethionine-dependent enzyme, which we tentatively denominated as NMDA synthase.

Occurrence of D-aspartic acid and N-methyl-D-asparti... [FASEB J. 2000] - PubMed - NCBI

 

[Headholio]

I've used unleaded with great results. .

I'll have to try that Unleaded stuff. I heard it's good for your fuel injectors

 

[Headholio]

Right now I'm stacking DAA with Endosurge. I'll do that for 30 days, then switch to Hcgenerate. After 30 days of that I'll switch to something else (Unleashed, Ultra Male RX or another product or stack).
There are a few different test boosting substances that work in different ways. I switch them up because I think it works better that way, and also minimizes the risk of any unknown negative effects they may have.

 

[Cali72]

I'll have to try that Unleaded stuff. I heard it's good for your fuel injectors

Lmao
Make sure u use the premium bro
98% octane.

 

[Phishtribe]

Yeah not looking for any led poison... didnt catch that. I guess I just interpreted the like between daa and nmda wrong. no ones claiming a biochem degree.. tho I have a final in that class in the am. If I knew the answers to my questions I wouldnt be sitting here asking them so ease off a bit. Im just a dude looking for information from vets.
Nelson- I realize that creatine is not for test i was simply listing it as one of the things I was on when bp went up. I usually only use monohydrate but decided to give the other a try. Normally I never see an increase in water retnetion, not even a pound difference but with the new stuff even with an ai I had an 8lb gain in just over a week. Lots of bloat and so thats why im reasoning that it had to be what was responsible for my bp increase.

 

[Phishtribe]

And if anyone does have some nice articles on DAA I would love to read them, I have a senior seminar to do in march pertaining to TRT and DAA potential as well as other more naturel ways such as fadogina agrestis as an alternative to injectable test and creams.