shootfight vs muay thai

[SweOldSchool]

thinking of going form bb to shootfight or muay thai.. just wanted to see if anybody has an opinion on which to recomend? or any other art? I want the hardest and most effective (praktical).. I'm 20 yo 5'7 and been training bb for 3years.. I'm no stranger to gear.. never been involved in any material arts before.. I don't like the stupid things the karate guys are doing just intressted in good fight..

 

[Silent Method]

Best advice, just dig in. Pros and cons to both. Kuk Sool is pretty cool, it's very practical yet sneaky as hell , without being too technical. It covers groundfighting, grappling, boxing, kicking - all aspects of fighting.

 

[Shaolin Monk]

Just visit your local Dojangs(martial art schools). Find the most hardcore one with the most hardcore instuctors. Most you will find are full of little kids! However, if you search you will find an adult oriented, hardcore place to train. As far as, what style to join well, it all depends on you. Do you consider yourself to be a grappler or striker by nature? I myself am a striker. It's best to cross train and mix it all up. I think grappling is practical, effective but, boring to watch and, does not help against multiple attackers. So, you see it's up to you...Get in where you fit in!

 

[MuscularWarrier]

Hey bro,

Thanks for posting this intresting thread. Let me tell you one thing, and that one thing is that there is just ONE word you need to know if you want to stop being a pussy and want to kick ass - and that is Jeet Kune Do.

You surely have no reson to except what I am writing as the truth however I can tell you that I am not selling you a martial arts course but Ive been doing JKD as we know it for over 18 months and I can tell you that its is the most single effective fighting tool for mankind.

Approx 3 months ago in fact I was in downtown Phily just minding mine own business as I was going to school when I was suddenly accosted by a gang of faggots. You may not now this but male rape on the streets of Phily is rampant and when these five faggots surroundend me I could see from the filthy look of lust in there eyes that they were only after one thing.

Unluckly for them I wasnt about to let them have it.

Basically I got my baseball bat out and gave them a severe beating that they will never forget. Yeah sure I took a few blows myself - becase unlike in the movieies no real fight is a 100% clean battle. Street fighting is dirty and you dont get a warning. But in the end I prevailed I beleve because of my superior muscle and JKD. It was after that incident that I came to be known as the Muscular Warrior at my JKD centre.

I know several good JKD tutors in South Phily if you intrested, just PM me.

Muscular Warrior

 

[The Almighty]

But in the end I prevailed I beleve because of my superior muscle and JKD. It was after that incident that I came to be known as the Muscular Warrior at my JKD centre.

LOL 17 years old, 5'11, and 155 pounds. "Muscular" Warrior indeed.

 

[Realgains]

It is good to cross train but ground fighting has clearly proven itself to be superior if you had to choose one or the other. It is very easy to get a striker to the ground and you don't even need to take a blow. Once they are on the ground(where all streets fights go anyway) then their striking skills are not helpful. The only really effetive thing they can do is eye gouge, groin rip or bite but a grappler isn't likely to allow this to happen and besides anyone can do that.

Bottom line......unless a striker knows how to ground fight he is toast....unless he gets in an early direct blow. But the grappler just stands out of range and then shoots for the legs from outside even the kicking range. The striker is down so fast that he doesn't know what hit him.

I boxed and kick boxed for many years and I can tell you that ground fighting is superior...I have learned the hard way. he he he

The samller you are the more important ground fighting is too.


RG

 

[bighead]

Imo if your going to do one martial art and just one martial art then do shootfighting or do brazilian jiu jitsiu if you can find a good school.

Thai is good aswell but you have to crosstrain.

 

[tbro]

you need to learn the true art of grappling because almost every fight gets to the ground at some point....a must

 

[clusterfoxtrot]

Well you know what they say about opinons...IMO Krav Maga, the offical H2H for of the Israeli (and now FBI, DEA, many law enforcement, and SpecOps groups) is the baddest of the bad.

As a fundenmental, it teaches engaging multiple assailants, improvised weapons, use of firearms and knives at advanced levels. In addition, it was developed with the intent of demobilizing or killing your opponent by hand. None of this candy-coated kata crap. It is a mix of Russian and Brazilian Samba (spelling?), Akito, Jiu Jitsu, and some other practical stuff.

NO fight is clean. I have had my ass kicked by guys half my size and have hospitalized multiple opponents twice my size. It all boils down to instinct, reaction, ability to issue sudden incapacitating violence, and determining within a nanosecond who is going to win the fight.

If its in a bar, chance are you aren't fighting for your life. If it's on the street, you are. You absolutely must kill your assailant without remorse. If you are constitutionally incabable of digesting the idea of killing someone with your hand, a fork, a pencil, a bottle, etc. - then the art may bot be for you.

They are some what limited in places of learning in the states, but now include DC, NY, Philly, LA and a few other places. I think www.kravmaga.com is the official web site.

CF

 

[me2dammit]

hey

I know one thing. When you watch alot of martial artisits when they get "tagged" one good time most that shit goes out the window.

I trained with a guy who also trained special forces, he is second generation and basically told me that all that fancy shit is useless. People are just taught to go for the weak spots(eyes,ears,groins, soft tissue) and shown basic defense moves. No fancy shit with 40lbs of gear on your back. Use anything you can for a weapon. No such thing as a fair fight.

No shoalin magic or parlor tricks. Yeah working on your kicks and punches will make you more effective, but realize there is a HUGE difference between a streetfight and competition.

You might try some of that submission stuff on the street and get a hunk of flesh bit out and then get your ass whopped. Unless you are a big, strong dude OR got the technique down 100%, sometimes that grappling shit could get you killed.

Thai is excellent for stand up fighting, but I also advise just practising by yourself on one of those dummies and getting to reconize the vital areas to strike, you can't really practice the deadly strikes on opponents, but you should practise them so they are second nature and in a deadly confontation you know off rip, hit the eyes, hit the groin. Shit you don't do in comp.

That 3 stooges eye poke is one lethal move.

Remember we are weak ass creatures(compared to other animals walking around) and the only thing that gave us a chance to survive is our brain. Mix up both styles and also train your mind for street survival.

Hopefully your bodybuilding has paid off. People don't get in line to fuck with big dudes they just say "whats up big man" I love it.

Ive had ladies tell me some of there male friends that seen me say "thats a big muthafucka I wouldn't fuck with him"! They don't know if I can fight for adam(although I can).

Point is keep the size also for a deterent.