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KENNY3

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And that sucks because my gains are fucking unbelievable. This is my first cycle (500mg test/ 560 tren wk). Last week alone I put 30 lbs on my bench and 50 lbs on my squat (full sets x3 , max is even higher)
I'm getting just straight up BIG, fast.
With 4grams of pantothenic acid my complexion is actually getting better!
Only problem is I can't fuckin' WALK!
My mom is getting worried and she tries to take me to the doctor almost every day.
I have to wait until the halls clear at college for me to try to go to class. It takes forever for me to climb a flight of stairs.
Instead of looking like i'm jacked and ready to pull your arms out of their sockets, I more closely resemble a gang ass rape victim. Its pathetic, and just down right embarassing.
I can deal with the pain (there's plenty of it), but everybody is constantly asking me what wrong with my legs.
there's nothing cool about looking like your rockin' a fresh case of polio.

I do all my injections correctly.

>sanitize site
>very slow injection
>hot shower with 10 min deep massage
>straight to the gym for a few sets of quad isolation (heavy)

But I still look and feel like i'm trying to walk off two broken legs.

I have no idea how you guys do it!!!!!!!

maybe if i didn't have to leave the house for two months it'd be cool.

My parents and coaches are getting suspicious quick, and my friends just make fun of me (I'd slap em except their right)

Every injection seems to get alittle more painful and restrict my movement a little more. Ibuprophen and alleve don't even work anymore. Vicodin does but try working and lifting on that stuff.

Anyway, just wondering if I'm the only one who this happens to or what.
Cause its getting hard to justify screwing up the big aspects of day to day living for the gains, even though they are impressive.
 
bro ---suck it up......think about the long term....no pain no gain my man.....its probally the tren though cause i shot my quads and it did hurt....anyway..good luck
 
i've never shot tren but i do get a limp when i shoot sus in my thigh. I think the trick is to let your body get used to it. I can shoot it in either ass cheeck and not get it sore, as well as my left thight. When i shoot it in my right thigh i limp for 2 days. I think it takes about 3 shots in each body part for me to get used to the pain from sus, after that NOTHING. So i'm just waiting till my right thigh gets used to it so i can start alternating them. I don't know what kind of sus your using, but if it's not human grade you might wanna try that. I've used organon sus and omnadren and have had no problems with either. Hope this helps.
 
Try heating up the gear before injecting. I microwave a small bowl of water for 1 min, then place the vial in the bowl while I shower.
 
Are you injecting quad or glute? Size pin? How many CCs per injection?

Could be a lot of things. I'm guessing too much alcohol in your gear. Some people (although it's rare) can be alergic to benzyl alcohol. You may be reacting to some of that.

Tell us brands, etc.
 
I know what yall are saying, I didn't expect juicin' to be cake.
the pain isn't the problem (it sucks but i'm not a little girl)

its that i blantanly have extreme difficulty moving around.
the "I over maxed my legs the other day in the gym" excuse is holding less and less water.

I don't want to quit, fuck i love this shit
but i'm flirting with gettin' popped by coaches and my folks (my moms masters is in nursing and doesn't get BS'd very easily on health issues and coaches just KNOW)

I thought my legs would adapt, but its only getting progressively worse.
I'm 3.5 weeks in, shouldn't they have adapted if they were going to?

BTW- I'm not using sus, its converted synovex

2cc's gives me 142g test / 162g tren

If anybody has any other suggestions I'm all ears

thanks
 
Bro, you are supposed to take the needles OUT of your ass after you inject yourself. Don't leave them in.

And don't worry - a lot of us made this mistake.
 
Just my 2 cents but I'd start using gear that was a little easier in the pain department (ie decca or eq w/your test). All I can tell you is I shoot up my Organon Durateston (sust) with decca using a 23gauge 1-1/2" and I literally forget which glute I stuck.
 
1" 25 ga pins

2cc's eod

alternating right quad, left quad, right glute

both tren and test converted using A's kits

substituted converted synovex for the oil in the finaplix conversion to cut down on oil, so i get 304mgs of gear in 2cc's

I also warm my syringe under warm running water for about two minutes before injs

tri's and shoulders just freak me out, even if i could do a one handed injection, I probably couldn't drive for the next 4 days
 
Ya, leaving the pinz in are bad...Ha, ha.
Seriously though my brother had the same prob and it boiled down to no more shots in the legs and he got a lighter massage on his legs, his massage therapist was going to deep in the fibers. It don’t take much pressure to go deep in the fibers on legs, which will cause you to walk like you just got poked by a big dude in the ASS.

Try leaving your legs alone for awhile.

Kev
 
KENNY3 said:

BTW- I'm not using sus, its converted synovex

2cc's gives me 142g test / 162g tren
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Did you convert this yourself or buy it finished? Who's kit did you use? It's probably causing tissue necrosis from too much BA.

You should junk this stuff and get some human grade gear. That way you can do gear and actually walk at the same time.
 
KENNY3 said:
1" 25 ga pins

2cc's eod

alternating right quad, left quad, right glute

both tren and test converted using A's kits

substituted converted synovex for the oil in the finaplix conversion to cut down on oil, so i get 304mgs of gear in 2cc's
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Sorry, bro. I missed this post.

I stand by my diagnosis. Too much BA + only 3 days recovery time per body part + 2 ccs per shot = severe pain and possible necrosis.

You could try glute, glute, quad, quad or just bail on this stuff and get some better gear. (You really my be somewhat allergic to the BA.)
 
tissue necrosis

that sounds scary:(


I tried baking my gear at 225 degrees for 10 min twice
to help lower the BA content (obviously its very high)

should I do this a few more times?
I have to assume its the high BA content thats causing the problem.

does anyone know of a better way to lower BA?
 
KENNY3 said:
1" 25 ga pins

2cc's eod

alternating right quad, left quad, right glute
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I have yet to use tren so the only thing I can say is listen to the guys that have. But I will tell you one thing based on experience. If you're using 25gauge 1" for your glutes it's not long enough. I used a 23gauge 1" for my first 2 injections (before I placed my order to getpinz.com) and my ass hurt for at least 3 days. It hurt to sit down and I had a major cramp in my ass. Once I got my pinz and started shooting 23gauge 1-1/2" there was absolutely no pain afterwards.
Get some 1-1/2"ers dude. ;)
 
sorry i didn't say


i do use 23ga 1 1/2" pins for the glute

the ass shots don't hurt or inhibit movement as bad as the quads, but they're not pie either.
the glute scares me because i can't see what i'm doing and i feel like an under achieving contorsionist getting cramps and stuff during injection.
I can barely touch my left glute, much less reach around and give myself a shot there.
i'd cancel the glute shots if my quads recovered fast enough, but that's not an option
 
What kind of tren are you using and if converted, by what kit? A decent kit shouldnt leave you gimping.
 
I used A's kits for both synovex and fina
I read they were the best
My quads are telling a different story right now though
 
x

you need to tell him which gear to use - i.e., which are human grade.

you should eat thai anabol dBol tabs and shoot Organon SUST250 re-dijects (one in each cheek every 5 days or so) - no pain no problema...
 
KENNY3 said:
I used A's kits for both synovex and fina
I read they were the best
My quads are telling a different story right now though
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I had the same problem with synovex....especially in the quads, get rid of that crap. Test is so damn cheap why would you fool around with a conversion kit for that? Just stick to the glutes for your inj. site and cross your fingers :)
 
hey

FUCK OFF COCK SMOKER

in case you didn't notice this is my first cycle, so yeah its kind of a trial and error thing. I've read about many people who say this helps plenty. My worst pain has come the morning after a night injection when i couldn't make it to the gym, so i'm under the impression that it helps me plenty.

Are you 13 years old or did you just forget how to read?

I started this tread because i need some help from some brothers in the know. You aren't offering shit. Don't even bother remembering my handle because you won't catch me on your thread flamin like I got my dick slapped cause i got a little more goddman respect than that.

As far as what you have to say about me personally, well i really appreciate the support and all but the joke would be seein' you roll up on me like that in the bar. You girlfiend would be buying my pitchers of guiness about 5 minutes after that.

take your keyboard jokeying and piss off, you're not impressing anybody
 
as Deniro would say "you talking to me?"

as rene decartes would say "i think not" and then he disappears. (get it, he's the guy that said "i think therefore i am" so when he says "i think not", poof)...
 
so do yall think its the synovex?

If i went with human grade test and fina i wouldn't be having this problem?

if that's the case maybe i'll go ahead and start planning a second (hopefully more successful) cycle.

Cindy: Organon sust has been recommended to me before also, but i've always read about how painful sust is. Is the Org sust a different case?

Everyone's respectful two cents appreciated
 
my boyfriend injected sust250 in his glutes every 5 to 7 days for 8 weeks and the only pain he had was one time he injected 3 ml (for 750mg) at once and one time i (oops) moved the needle inside there and ripped some of his ass fat around (my fault, you should've heard his girlie scream of pain). but other than an evil girlfriend or shooting 3cc, it seemed quite painless...
 
no
i was speaking to the festering cunt who called me an ass and a retard and somtehing else i think, without reading that i'm on my first cycle and looking for help, not trying to state bunk facts or dumb ass opinions.
 
oh, and the syringes were 23 gauge, 1.5" and they went all the way in. often there would be blood after coming out and he/i never bothered to "aspirate" but it seemed to go fine and like i said earlier he gained 25 pounds, went up 50 in bench, etc., and only lost half of it post cycle. he did lose some sex drive causing girlfriend (me) to look elsehwhere, but no pain no gain...
 
that doesn't sound too bad (except the ass fat thing)

I would kill for once a week injections


the rene decartes thing was pretty funny

no pain no gain... that's kinda harsh
well.......only for him
 
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Originally posted by KENNY3

BTW- I'm not using sus, its converted synovex

2cc's gives me 142g test / 162g tren
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no wonder. Look at those dosages! Thats like 81 carts of tern in 2cc's. Thats INSANE! lol

I imagine u meant mg's. I shoot home made tren on alot of cycles with no problems.
 
Kenny get some human grade gear. I did a cycle of Testex and Deca, 3cc twice a week, totally painless no matter where you shot it. I can't speak for fina but I know unless it's made for a pharmacy I'm not shooting it in my body.
 
Has to be the gear. I use a 25g 1 incher in each quad, 1-1/2cc each time and the next day, i feel almost normal (only SLIGHTLY sore). The first week or 2 i was limpin some, but now, im pretty much normal after injecting. hint, try QV test, cheap and effective.
 
Stop cryin'

Bro, some of us would die for a bodypart to grow like that, some of us even on gear can't get certain body parts to grow much at all. Suck it up soldier, you want to look like a man, then take it like a man. And by the way, Yeah! what he said.
 
you guys who say no pain no gain, suck it up, etc, obviously havent had the pain that can be associated with certain gear. i used a certain lot of tt test, and it hurt me to no end. i couldnt roll over in bed without extreme pain, took me a few minutes just to stand up. so before you say suck it up, realize maybe that its the gear, and not him being a pussy.
 
KENNY3 said:
tissue necrosis

that sounds scary:(


I tried baking my gear at 225 degrees for 10 min twice
to help lower the BA content (obviously its very high)

should I do this a few more times?
I have to assume its the high BA content thats causing the problem.

does anyone know of a better way to lower BA?
Click to expand...

Can't you mix the oil with water and then separate? The benzyl alcohol will mix with the water and leave way less in the oil.... Don't know the solubility ratios but it makes sense....

JC
 
KENNY3 said:

>straight to the gym for a few sets of quad isolation (heavy)

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That is your fucking problem. Whoever madeup this "work your legs after your stick a needle in them", is a fucking idiot! Holy production of scar tissue!

I always inject before I go to bed and I make sure not even to move for at least 20 minutes while lightly massaging. I then go to sleep. I wake up and I forget that I even injected.
 
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iceman11111 said:


This has got to be a joke! What fucking ass does heavy quads after injecting your quads, I have got to flame here!

YOUR A FUCKING RETARD!!!

Also if your legs are hurting so much then start injecting your delts, tris, bi's, chest!

And if your to stupid to do this then send me your gear :)

Sorry I had to!
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Kenny3, he is sort of right, but he could have put it a little more nicely.
 
ITS YOUR GEAR DUDE...

I have never used synovex, but I have used fina. It sounds to me like you tried to make your gear stonger than the kit was designed for (fitting 304mg in 2cc). What I read on this matter is you are getting too much BA in one area. You are actually damaging your muscle fibers by doing this. if you really want to do the test, either get yourself a new synovex kit and convert it to the correct mg/ml dosage, or get some new gear all together.

I would give your legs time to recover before I stated this new cycle too. but that is just my opinion. I've only done 1 cycle myself. So take it for what its worth.

Also, I wanted to add that test with no ester is supposed to be somewhat painful anyway (from what I hear).

Did I read in this thread you are working out after you inject? THAT IS NOT A GOOD THING TO DO. I did mine before bed time. be gentle with the muscle that you just put 2cc of oil in. it needs time to absorb that stuff.
 
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SHOOT YOUR GLUTE! DAILY INJECTIONS ALSO NOT GREAT WAY TO GO. WHY DOESN'T TTOKKYO MAKE PARABOLAN INSTEAD OF FINA IN ACETATE FORM? WEEKLY INJECTIONS.
 
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