Sarms S-4 and Osta-sarms?

[Nathaniel3535]

hey all how long does it take for sarms s-4 and osta-sarms to clear the system so that it is possible to pass a drug test? have done extensive searching and cant seem to find it any where i recently found out that they can test for i think its sarms S-4 so i was just wondering seeing as how its oral i figure it is pretty quick

 

[at(almost)ANYcost]

hey all how long does it take for sarms s-4 and osta-sarms to clear the system so that it is possible to pass a drug test? have done extensive searching and cant seem to find it any where i recently found out that they can test for i think its sarms S-4 so i was just wondering seeing as how its oral i figure it is pretty quick

I can't answer the clearing question, but I truly can't see ANY way how any organization or especially hiring panel or even military doctor would have the standard to test, or even care about, SARMS. Just enjoy your SARMS SEARCH products to the fullest, and know you're getting the best of the best, and don't have to worry about side effects.

 

[ChemWiz]

No test for SARMS bro! Its an oral as well, so even if there was....it would clear fast.

 

[machine23]

Is sarms oral?? Or inject??

 

[Nathaniel3535]

oral ....and yes there is a test for the sarms S-4 idk about the osta-sarms .....does anyone had a idea of how long it would be before it clears a system

 

[at(almost)ANYcost]

oral ....and yes there is a test for the sarms S-4 idk about the osta-sarms .....does anyone had a idea of how long it would be before it clears a system

It appears as if I was wrong about there being a testing procedure. But, is it something is implemented in local bodybuilding contests? I especially can't imagine it being used for employment or probation purposes.

Just stock up on some amazing Sarms Search products, and get lean and hard!

 

[liffalot]

oral ....and yes there is a test for the sarms S-4 idk about the osta-sarms .....does anyone had a idea of how long it would be before it clears a system

Bro you seem sure that there's a test but I'm pretty certain that there isn't.....

There is a way to test how much androgen you receive, but there is no way to link elevated androgen reception to any form of supplement........for all anyone knows it could be that you're just naturally androgenic.

And the half life for S4 is no more than 4-6 hours man, so I would think it would be mostly out of your system in a couple of days tops. Half life for OSTA is 24 hours though, so I'd give that a week

 

[Nathaniel3535]

awesome bro that is what i was lookin for and yes there is a test the wada caught some baseball player with s-4 in his system through a urin test idk maby its bull to scare us but thats what u read i dont think there is one for osta though

 

[ChemWiz]

I took a WADA style drug test while on the s4/osta stack last week and nothing showed up. Me and a friend.


I can post pics of paperwork if needed.

 

[at(almost)ANYcost]

I took a WADA style drug test while on the s4/osta stack last week and nothing showed up. Me and a friend.


I can post pics of paperwork if needed.

So you're telling me it's anabolic, lipolytic, AND undetected in multiple athlete's tests with a WADA standard?

Yeah..... SARMS from SARMS SEARCH are legit!

 

[liffalot]

awesome bro that is what i was lookin for and yes there is a test the wada caught some baseball player with s-4 in his system through a urin test idk maby its bull to scare us but thats what u read i dont think there is one for osta though

Lets hope so man its great stuff and they shouldn't bang athletes for being creative witht heir supplementation!

 

[at(almost)ANYcost]

I know this is a far cry from applying to all athletes, but luckily for me, I am a recreation/competitive athlete where bodybuilding is concerned, so I am not subject to any testing procedures. All I have to do is tilt my head back, squirt a little OSTA goodness from Sarms Search, and ENJOY THE EFFECTS!!!!

 

[BarbelBeast]

^^ Like it man.. Osta from SS is great stuff

 

[at(almost)ANYcost]

^^ Like it man.. Osta from SS is great stuff

Thanks! Also, you can say that again... and again... (and again)!

 

[markmark]

whats the shelf life on this supplement. will like to order a few bottles.

 

[at(almost)ANYcost]

whats the shelf life on this supplement. will like to order a few bottles.

EXCELLENT IDEA AND QUESTION... if you don't find out within a day or so, send me a PM and I'll do some digging for you. Great products to stock up on in this climate of regulation - plus, NEVER hurt anyone to have a healthy supply of super effective products on hand!

 

[liffalot]

First of all, for the record, I'm a month into OSTA and I have to say that I think I prefer the S4 to the OSTA.......although that's like saying you prefer cake to ice cream.....

Second, question: Why would S4 cause gene transcription issues but OSTA would not? I'm having a bitch of a time finding and analyzing the chemisty of the SARMS! I need a lesson!

 

[rocheey]

I searched EXTENSIVELY about detection tests for Ostarine. Thew only info I consistently came up with was that there are no tests.

I had to take a very thorough drug test (in addition to the standard pre-employment test) thru my employer as part of a security clearance. I had taken my Ostarine just a few hours before .. and did NOT have to sweat it out

gotta love that Ostarine

 

[bird901]

First of all, for the record, I'm a month into OSTA and I have to say that I think I prefer the S4 to the OSTA.......although that's like saying you prefer cake to ice cream.....

Second, question: Why would S4 cause gene transcription issues but OSTA would not? I'm having a bitch of a time finding and analyzing the chemisty of the SARMS! I need a lesson!

Liftalot, Why do you prefer the s4 over osta? I know some don't like s4 but I loved it. Everyone seems to love osta.

 

[at(almost)ANYcost]

Liftalot, Why do you prefer the s4 over osta? I know some don't like s4 but I loved it. Everyone seems to love osta.

Great question, I'm curious too

 

[chesty]

Military/hiring people don't test for roids, etc. They only test for the "hardcore" drugs, alcohol, etc. If your a test subject for NASA they do test for steroids, but I didn't see sarms on there. Are you talking about sarms from sarmsearch?

 

[liffalot]

To answer you both, I really liked the androgenic effects of S4 better than OSTA. Until about a month into OSTA I was wondering why I was even taking it......it took about 30 full days for me to really start seeing good effects and feeling pumps like I was actually taking something.

S4 seemed to have some really good immediate effects on my weightroom energy and endurance, and right away you can start seeing great vascularity and pumps. I guess overall, S4 just had immediate benefits and long term ones, and I havent seen the former with OSTA. Although now, I am getting some mad vascularity and pumps in the weightroom from the OSTA along with some nice full muscles.

I guess I would say that I'm one of those people who prefers something that bites a little with its results than something that strictly gives you good results.....I don't know, maybe I shouldnt say any more until I'm finished

 

[liffalot]

And a question for anyone who is up on this type of research: What is different chemically about S4 and OSTA....?

I mean, for them to both be considered selective androgen receptor modules they must both bind to the androgen receptors, but their effects are so different.

 

[CoBra666]

i think it'd be ideal to stack them together. it would be like kick starting an aas cycle

 

[at(almost)ANYcost]

To answer you both, I really liked the androgenic effects of S4 better than OSTA. Until about a month into OSTA I was wondering why I was even taking it......it took about 30 full days for me to really start seeing good effects and feeling pumps like I was actually taking something.

S4 seemed to have some really good immediate effects on my weightroom energy and endurance, and right away you can start seeing great vascularity and pumps. I guess overall, S4 just had immediate benefits and long term ones, and I havent seen the former with OSTA. Although now, I am getting some mad vascularity and pumps in the weightroom from the OSTA along with some nice full muscles.

I guess I would say that I'm one of those people who prefers something that bites a little with its results than something that strictly gives you good results.....I don't know, maybe I shouldnt say any more until I'm finished

Great post, I understand where you're coming from. Did you mind the vision sides while on S4, or did the faster harder hitting anabolic effects make it all worth it? I'm running Sarms Search's S4 this fall as part of my PCT plan, and really excited about it too.

I'd like to run them both together actually, having already ran two months of OSTA early this year, and LOVED IT.

 

[CoBra666]

im on s4 right now and my vision sides are nothing at all. i just started to get them at week 4, but after that week i took 5 days off i believe, due to life issues gettin in the way. just finished week 5 now and back to no sides

 

[liffalot]

I'm with Cobra, I ran S4 at 50mgs 7 days on 0 days off for 60 days, one dose per day, and I didn't get any vision side effects until about day 58.

Even then, it was just blotched vision 5 mins after I woke up and yellow tint when I walked from a very well lit area into a darker area.

The hard hitting anabolics were totally worth the sides for me since I didnt really have any! And I am going to run them together this fall I think.

I think my problem with OSTA was user error and not necessarily OSTA related. I ran it for a shorter duration at a higher dose (15 mgs per day, for 40-50 days). I think it would have worked out better, but I had a little spill accident that cost me a few days worth at least.

That said, S4 was more intense. I think if youre one of those people that like the cracked out high focus feeling before you work out (N2KTS users > ) then you will appreciate S4 more.

 

[at(almost)ANYcost]

I'm with Cobra, I ran S4 at 50mgs 7 days on 0 days off for 60 days, one dose per day, and I didn't get any vision side effects until about day 58.

Even then, it was just blotched vision 5 mins after I woke up and yellow tint when I walked from a very well lit area into a darker area.

The hard hitting anabolics were totally worth the sides for me since I didnt really have any! And I am going to run them together this fall I think.

I think my problem with OSTA was user error and not necessarily OSTA related. I ran it for a shorter duration at a higher dose (15 mgs per day, for 40-50 days). I think it would have worked out better, but I had a little spill accident that cost me a few days worth at least.

That said, S4 was more intense. I think if youre one of those people that like the cracked out high focus feeling before you work out (N2KTS users > ) then you will appreciate S4 more.

S4 makes you feel more focused, it alters something mentally? I have never heard that before, but any edge is welcomed, I just DON'T like feeling cracked out, which is why I really avoid stimulants.

So you're going to be running Sarm Search's OSTA or S4 with anabolics next time? I keep asking and asking about this, and still have yet to receive an answer about whether or not taking SARMS while taking AAS would cause any diminished effect between the two if they act on the same receptor!?

 

[liffalot]

I have no clue on the second. And I dont know if it alters mental state or not but my experience is that the extra energy it gives kind of clears my mind. And yes I will be running both from SARMS search great products!

 

[ChemWiz]

Roll with the combo bro.

 

[liffalot]

S4 makes you feel more focused, it alters something mentally? I have never heard that before, but any edge is welcomed, I just DON'T like feeling cracked out, which is why I really avoid stimulants.

So you're going to be running Sarm Search's OSTA or S4 with anabolics next time? I keep asking and asking about this, and still have yet to receive an answer about whether or not taking SARMS while taking AAS would cause any diminished effect between the two if they act on the same receptor!?

If I had to take a very educated guess, I would say that SARMS actually enhances and does not inhibit the effects of AAS. If the use the same receptor, it is my understanding that SARMS will have more of an amplification effect rather than an inhibition effect because it binds to the receptor but does not prevent its uptake of other biochemicals ment for said receptor.

The way I like to think of it is the simple push-pull factor. The push is putting some sort of excess substance into your body, like AAS, and the push is how well your body receives this substance. Naturally, this pull can be deterred by a number of things (I would assume factors like genetics and age play a part), and SARMS helps adjust your pull so that you receive the substance MUCH better.

That is why it can work even without the effects of AAS in your system; it simply aids you to intake what you produce naturally rather than wasting your excess androgen.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but thats my explanation.

 

[ChemWiz]

If I had to take a very educated guess, I would say that SARMS actually enhances and does not inhibit the effects of AAS. If the use the same receptor, it is my understanding that SARMS will have more of an amplification effect rather than an inhibition effect because it binds to the receptor but does not prevent its uptake of other biochemicals ment for said receptor.

The way I like to think of it is the simple push-pull factor. The push is putting some sort of excess substance into your body, like AAS, and the push is how well your body receives this substance. Naturally, this pull can be deterred by a number of things (I would assume factors like genetics and age play a part), and SARMS helps adjust your pull so that you receive the substance MUCH better.

That is why it can work even without the effects of AAS in your system; it simply aids you to intake what you produce naturally rather than wasting your excess androgen.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but thats my explanation.

I agree, I think they enhance and are great with AAS

 

[at(almost)ANYcost]

Liffalot and chemwiz, thanks a lot for your input. It really opens my eyes and mind to the possibility to adding SARMS SEARCH products to my cycle. I would just cry into my pillow if I ended up wasting hundreds of dollars in SARMS, plus, hundreds of dollars in Test, Primo, EQ, and Masteron!

So, you two truly think I should add in SARMS during these last 4 weeks of my Summer cycle, and perhaps even continue the SARMS into PCT/Cruise?

 

[liffalot]

Absolutely man. It is perfect for PCT but I think that also because of its receptor binding properties, you will see an enhanced effect to your AAS and not a negated effect. In all my research I can only conclude that it doesnt block the receptor, it enhances its intake.

However, with both S4 and OSTA, I started seeing REAL results around 3-4weeks (about 3 with S4, 4 with OSTA). Up until that point there are benefits also, but you will really feel the mule kick then. So That should be right around your PCT start time whih could work out really well.

Let me know how it goes bro!

 

[ChemWiz]

Great for PCT! I think the Osta is perfect.

 

[RickRock13]

Great for PCT! I think the Osta is perfect.

Absolutely! Ostarine has become a staple in my PCTs for a while now. Helps to not only keep the gains made on cycle, but to add on even more! Iv also got a bottle of SS S-4 to bridge into after running the Ostarine