S4 Vision Sides. Personal Experience?

[travishibachi]

Idk if you've read this or not but dylan breaks down the triple stack protocol very effectively especially concerning the dosing for S4.

http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocolhttp://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocol

Like everyone has said, staggering the dosage correctly will minimize chance of vision sides and the M1 metabolite is also dependent on each person's individual DNA makeup. Some people will experience sides and some won't. ^^This protocol will diminish the chances of experiencing the side effects. Dylan uses a good Mike Tyson punchout analogy too haha.

 

[Aussi muscle]

I too want to run the triple stack in the future but the vision problems with s4 really worries me. If it temporarily can effect vision, what could it do long term. I don't wear glasses but I wouldn't say my vision is great. I'm pretty light sensitive at the best of times. Especially night driving. Should I avoid it completely ?

 

[travishibachi]

I too want to run the triple stack in the future but the vision problems with s4 really worries me. If it temporarily can effect vision, what could it do long term. I don't wear glasses but I wouldn't say my vision is great. I'm pretty light sensitive at the best of times. Especially night driving. Should I avoid it completely ?

Anyone that has experienced vision sides says that it goes away as soon as use is discontinued which is why the 5 on/2 off approach can help as well. Plus, you don't have to start at the 50 mg ED dosage. You can start at 25-40 mg like jbranken said to assess your tolerance before any sides get out of control. Then ramp up the dosage if things are going well.

Also, do you take in enough omega 3 fats and fish oil/krill oil? Omega 3s and the epa/dha found in fish oil/krill oil really help with keeping cell membranes healthy so mood, vision, heart health etc all benefit from this intake. Carrots will also help with your vision due to the beta carotene. Gotta take care of your eyes, bro! You only get one pair unless you want to go the bionic route haha.

 

[Jbranken]

I too want to run the triple stack in the future but the vision problems with s4 really worries me. If it temporarily can effect vision, what could it do long term. I don't wear glasses but I wouldn't say my vision is great. I'm pretty light sensitive at the best of times. Especially night driving. Should I avoid it completely ?

My eyes are pretty bad... Script is -4.25. Like I mentioned before, I've used s4 on 5 different occasions for 8-12 weeks. I have regular eye check ups and nothing has changed with my eyes for years. I guess only time will tell but all symptoms go away within a few days of stopping.

 

[Aussi muscle]

Anyone that has experienced vision sides says that it goes away as soon as use is discontinued which is why the 5 on/2 off approach can help as well. Plus, you don't have to start at the 50 mg ED dosage. You can start at 25-40 mg like jbranken said to assess your tolerance before any sides get out of control. Then ramp up the dosage if things are going well.

Also, do you take in enough omega 3 fats and fish oil/krill oil? Omega 3s and the epa/dha found in fish oil/krill oil really help with keeping cell membranes healthy so mood, vision, heart health etc all benefit from this intake. Carrots will also help with your vision due to the beta carotene. Gotta take care of your eyes, bro! You only get one pair unless you want to go the bionic route haha.

Yeah il probably start low and see how I go, as far as nutrients I have a multi every day with omega 3 and krill oil and all that jazz. I also eat fish every night (salmon, tuna, white flesh fish. I am an avid fisherman) and carrots are in my veg every day. Both my parents wore glasses so I guess I'm lucky I'm not in them yet. Yeah I'm just a little worried, as you say you only get one set of eyes.

 

[Aussi muscle]

My eyes are pretty bad... Script is -4.25. Like I mentioned before, I've used s4 on 5 different occasions for 8-12 weeks. I have regular eye check ups and nothing has changed with my eyes for years. I guess only time will tell but all symptoms go away within a few days of stopping.

Sweet that's great news, hopefully it will all be cool with me. Can't wait now

 

[hurricane]

Yeah but I was only going to try sarms (s4) for gains between cycles. Otherwise I'm with you on that one.

hasnt been like this for everyone, some people hardly have an vison problems,give it a shot and see how you react to it.With me it bothered my eyes even at low dosage.Its not for me.Id rather use something else.

 

[stevesmi]

best way is to try it yourself my friend. I tell people all the time to EXPERIMENT because everyone is different.

S4 vision for me depended on my dosage. there is a sweet spot where vision won't get affected very much and results stick.

 

[kfriesen]

Got my order in for triple stack today. W/20% off it was only 280$ can't go wrong at that price

 

[dylangemelli]

any effects that s4 does have on vision is not permanent... the half life is very short at 4-6 hours and that's why when people are unlucky and it binds quickly the 5 on and 2 off protocol combats the issue... s4 is definitely amazing and has profound effects, it just needs to be treated properly...