NO2Sally Ride, was that the first female astronaut?treilin said:SEP 26 2006
Mood = Good
Soreness = Ham and glute soreness, pants that fit this weekend could hardly get up over the bootayyyy I liked this change of pace work-out, thaks S
Food = Same lay-out as yesterday...
You know PB tastes so much better when you CAN taste it... Well all food does
Notes:
Gym
- Need to take new pics.. not necessarily posting them in here.. because I don't need
to right now.
- Need to do measurements
- NO2 seems to be working well. Tried full scoop yesterday and really got the pump
affect. INO2
Life
- Volunteering at the Sally Ride festival this weekend... Going to get to show my nerdiness with Kaleidoscopes, prisms, and optics.
- Taking an Instructor position at the massage school
- No more Training, well not getting paid for it at this time
- Retake NSCA test Dec 2
- Hot/Cold stone massage cert Oct
- Have Massage State cert by the spring
- Possibly officially get biz license and open up out of the house by Spring, depending on life
*Mom is doing lots better, I forgot to say thanks Flor for asking. She looks like she has lost more weight to me. She is a size 14 now, was a size 20 April 2004. It has taken awhile to get weight off as she has a lot of health issues so slow and steady has been the goal. It's been a great learning experinece for me in both training and massage therapy. What works.. what she can handle.. What massage ellicits a healing response, and what massage would be detrimental per her health issues. Many people don't realize that massage can be contraindicated for some people and actually have adverse sides if not practiced correctly.
Yep first American Women in SpaceHiDnGoD said:Sally Ride, was that the first female astronaut?
Glad you're feeling better.
All these certificates for your, um, certification. Do you need to requalify periodically, or just once?
If you hang out a shingle, I'll stop by for a massage, if ever I'm in the area. Umm, what region are you in?
Yeah that is high I even think for a gym!!! Maybe a spa would charge that...jpt said:hey tre!
my gym offers deep tissue massages but i was wonderong on the prices...it's $110 for 1 hr...is that seem normal or a little high? sounds high to me



Nice. I live up ners Kitchener, in Ontario. If I'm ever down that way, I'll give you a holler.treilin said:Yep first American Women in Space
I have to requalify for most of those yearly... The only one will be the state massage cert which will be a one time test as long as I practice for 5 consecutive years'. I live by Detroit.. I can't hang a sign out on my door.. against the community rules... but I can still have a legal biz as long as it has closing hours, only 2 cars in the driveway at once, and you can't see any type of business going on from the street. So I am golden.
with "the only one touching me not trained in massage would be a guy I'm dating."...Greta way to put it!Just let me know so I can put you in my appointment bookRoonytunes said:
I'm very excited for you to start your own massage practice. Next time I visit, I'm definitely getting a Tre signature massageI may not have Nelms to drive me to your house, but then again, I probably have a better chance of getting there in one piece now too
Glad to hear your mom is doing better as well!![]()
DutchDiva said:You have so much going for you girl, the more I read the more I'm impressed... good luck with your courses.
I ain't no Holla back girl....HidnGod said:Nice. I live up ners Kitchener, in Ontario. If I'm ever down that way, I'll give you a holler.
Florencia said:Hi T!!! I am so happy to hear your BOOTY is getting to where you want it to be!!
I with "the only one touching me not trained in massage would be a guy I'm dating."...Greta way to put it!
I have been getting a "sports" massage weekly...He is the official masseus(?) of endurance athletes in Mexico, perosns like Ana Guevara....
Sometimes it HURTS...He says the muscle is tight and full of toxins and it feels like rocky road, then after "hell" It's smooth...Day after I feel different may be "tired" feeling...I do not know how to describe it.
Is that normal?
I've heard the reference, but I've never heard the song.treilin said:I ain't no Holla back girl....
Joke from Gwen Stefanie song
Let me uh know!![]()
Sounds good!!HiDnGoD said:I've heard the reference, but I've never heard the song.
I was supposed to head to Windsor for a trade show next month, but that got cancelled.
Prolly in the new year, I'll be heading that way to Florida with the Mrs. . We'll stop in for a coffee/tea & massage.

They are sooo dead
Lats look a little bigger, but they are discreetly hidden. Playing with body fat calipers tonight or this weekend.. I can kind of look at and say comparing pictures, and body weight with May and say roughly 25-27%. 
I've really slacked on the cardio lately, due to other commitments. I gotta step it up & I know it's gonna hurt.jpt said:hey tre!! i hear ya on the HIIT....when i was on my bulk i def slacked on the cardio....i just tried some HIIT yesterday and oh man....sucked ass!!! my legs were screaming on the elliptical....
kill it tonight!!
treilin said:SEP 28 2006
Mood = Good
Soreness = Hams mid-lower, medially. Some post shoulder
I did HIIT training the first time yesterday since like August 16 and oh my word.. I can't even do 1/2 of what I did.. I can tell my cardio level was a lot better after all that cardio pre-comp, but it sure goes away fast when you stop doing it.
I did the step mill 5 min WU, 1 min intervals (1min high, 1min working recovery) for 8 cycles, and 4 min cool down
Noone was in the old gym except for everyone who wanted a treadmill... they were all taken.
Sweat every where
Food.... same
Weights this evening will be quads and calvesThey are sooo dead
Notes:
Pictures finally taken last night, measurements done. No I am not posting them either so don't bother asking. I am not ready to be posting tubby pictures yet. I did notice muscle gains though in the quads since May. I have back up.. just ask SBT. For fun I compared my initial shots Jan 2005, and my shots from yesterday and there is a huge difference in the legs.
As far as extra muscle since May I can't tell on most other parts of the body because of the fat layerLats look a little bigger, but they are discreetly hidden. Playing with body fat calipers tonight or this weekend.. I can kind of look at and say comparing pictures, and body weight with May and say roughly 25-27%.
Hopefully some of that will drop with the clean bulk, but again the main focus is on muscle gain not fat loss.
Ilk said:I know exactly what you mean about getting back into HIIT!!!
I had no time for a week of mega busy schedule and got back into it the nest week... 4 cycles I was slamped! Best thing..
Make your mind think all is ok.. Don't allow yourself to think you're tired.. It really works..!!![]()
Anyway Have a great fri!!!!!
I was gonna say what kind of alien did you create, lmao...HiDnGoD said:I'm astounded at how many people that I know that are sick right now.
My daughters been sick for a coupla weeks, keeps morphing into one form or another. The cold that is, my daughter doesn't morph.

Take plenty of vit c!HiDnGoD said:Hope yer feeling better soon.
I think I'll be getting sick. I'm playing in a ball tournament tomorrow & there's an 80% chance of rain, & it's only s'posed to be 10 deg(that's about 50deg for y'all southerners, LOL).
I'll have to look at this.. I'm going to play with different ones. THANK YOUflorencia said:

Let me know how it works...I NEED to buy some calipers...treilin said:I'll have to look at this.. I'm going to play with different ones. THANK YOU![]()
Yup, took vitamin C, Cold FX, & Echinacia drops, before & after.treilin said:Take plenty of vit c!
Raining here today and about the same temp.
At least everywhere I'll be going is indorrs
Have a good one, u to CK![]()
Tre! I did the BodyGem test today. Do you remember what your RMR was when you did it? Did they tell you to add another ~10% for the thermic effect of food digestion? Mine was a tad on the low side. My RMR was 1280 cals and I was told I can account another 10% for food digestion so that would bring it to 1400 cals. Of course, then I would take my activity factor into account. But I guess I don't really have to worry that I'm eating too little at this point U did it first thing in the a.m. right no food, or drink in you... out of bed..?Roonytunes said:Tre! I did the BodyGem test today. Do you remember what your RMR was when you did it? Did they tell you to add another ~10% for the thermic effect of food digestion? Mine was a tad on the low side. My RMR was 1280 cals and I was told I can account another 10% for food digestion so that would bring it to 1400 cals. Of course, then I would take my activity factor into account. But I guess I don't really have to worry that I'm eating too little at this point
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jpt said:hey tre...how many cals you trying for daily on your bulk?
i'm sure you know alot of the tricks to getting in the clean cals but i'll mention anyway. in my shakes i would throw in a cup of oats, anpb, and milk. so my shake went from 240 cals to about 700 cals.

Thanks, Tre! Yup, I did it first thing in the morning with nothing in my stomach. I'm not going to change anything with my diet at this point. I ate at 10-12 x my bodyweight on my own and then when I signed up with the Savage program, they gave me a similar calorie range. I'm happy with it and am continuing to make progress with looking more cut while staying lean. For me, this was more of a clarification that I wasn't eating too little. I had expected the number to come out at 1350 or so, so it was a tad lower than what I thought. Again, I've gone on all-out cheat weekends (like at your show & my other weekend trips) and not gained anything, so indulging once in a while doesn't really seem to do too much damage despite a low RMR.treilin said:U did it first thing in the a.m. right no food, or drink in you... out of bed..?
My RMR was like 1850 last year about this time.
Your low RMR is probably due to the fact of your cals being so low for such a long time... Your body kind of adjusted to what you were feeding it, and so that's the exact reason why some people's metabolism's drop... Not eating enough... Not eating enough to gain muscle. The only way to get it up is to increase cals.. I'm not saying jump cals but increase them like maybe by 100 cals a week till you get to where you need to be for muscle gains. I think that's what you are striving for right?!
I never really took into account the thermic effect of food with my clients'. I used the number out as their RMR, and adjusted their diet around that and it seemed to work really well.

treilin said:Hello.... I'm shooting at 1800 40/30/30

Note to self, thanks dr.dadHiDnGoD said:Good workoutses, LOL
Still have your cold? That's amazing. Have you tried cold FX? I don't think it'll do any good this time, but next time as soon as you feel symptoms, you take it. Shortens duration & minimizes symptoms.
bunny said:Hey Treil! Yup they're doing RMR's at my gym too these days, no bod pods though. They use to do hydrostatic weighing but got rid of it... bastages!
Hope you are feeling better, mental & physical.
I never did the pod thing, I would love to do it but couldn't get in to get it done. They have one at U oF M, but you have to kind of work your way in through contacts... Maybe one day.
jpt said:i eat whole food pre workout.....when cutting i keep it to just 1 can of tuna. i love my food so i take my carbs in at lunch and pwo. energy usually isn't a prob for me when i'm there....
when i bulk i have the milk, oats, and anpb when i wake up along with my shake. pwo i use oats and a banana....i also dabble olive oil when cooking my chicken
Got it! Please come back and share with me your pod experience... all the detailsRoonytunes said:Thanks, Tre! Yup, I did it first thing in the morning with nothing in my stomach. I'm not going to change anything with my diet at this point. I ate at 10-12 x my bodyweight on my own and then when I signed up with the Savage program, they gave me a similar calorie range. I'm happy with it and am continuing to make progress with looking more cut while staying lean. For me, this was more of a clarification that I wasn't eating too little. I had expected the number to come out at 1350 or so, so it was a tad lower than what I thought. Again, I've gone on all-out cheat weekends (like at your show & my other weekend trips) and not gained anything, so indulging once in a while doesn't really seem to do too much damage despite a low RMR.
I'm going back later this week to get a BodPod test done (the machine was broken today) for bodyfat %. So it'll be good to have that number on hand as well.
yeah i follow this rule when cutting...but when bulking it absolutely fine imoGot it!!! Yeah I try and not mix my fats and carbs...
treilin said:Weight = 153.6 (Jens why are you worried about 145 it's a number and I thought you were bulking girl??!?!?!?)
Food = Same, same... 1800 40/30/30...
No more EEKKkiiingg lady!!! Get the body fat done and monitor it and you'll be all setjenscats5 said:Well, it was that momentary EEEEK when I saw the number, ya know?
jpt said:hey tre! eat up!!! and let me knwo when that recipe book comes out...i'm all in!!!![]()
i had physical therapy last night...it went well. they charge a complimentary fee of only $54 for 1 hr deep tissue massagegoing to do it tomorrow i think! they also offered the stone massage thingy...not really sure about that one
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treilin said:No more EEKKkiiingg lady!!! Get the body fat done and monitor it and you'll be all set![]()
How is the stone therapy good for people with Fibro? I have a friend with a bad case of it.treilin said:You need the deep tissue.. Stone is more for relaxation... Unless they are using reciprocal therapy with hot and cold stone... Again though more for relaxation purposes or people with Myofibralgia.
Go DEEP
Morning CK!!!
Thanks SBT... Tigers ROaaarrrr

Good mornin!HiDnGoD said:How is the stone therapy good for people with Fibro? I have a friend with a bad case of it.
I heard a coupla young girls talking the other day. One was examining her face in a window & said to the other, "I can't wait to get a little older, so I stop breking out!" I didn't enlighten her.![]()

Thats' right, NO slacking this time either, GOT ME!!! That means you betta be eating before you come so you don't see stars again!sbt2082 said:G' Mornin there girlie!Yippee... LEGS tonight I can't wait
(Yeah there's just a tid bit of sarcasm there LOL)
Next week if I didn't tell you is balls to the walls overload, HE!L WEEK. Just to prepare ya See I LOVE deads!!!! It's one of my favorites actually. I guess because I like feeling the glutes in action! MUhaaaaThe Shadow said:LOL @ "What are you doing?"
I ask that everytime I do deads
Oh yeaaaa!treilin said:Thats' right, NO slacking this time either, GOT ME!!! That means you betta be eating before you come so you don't see stars again!
Next week if I didn't tell you is balls to the walls overload, HE!L WEEK. Just to prepare ya
It's the last week of this 4 week hypertrophy cycle.. and then it's all about strength for 4 weeks....
treilin said:October 6 2006
Mood = Awesome (It's friday)
Soreness = Quads feel tired, knees kinda sore, Still knot in my gastroc. Which they also feel tired.
Weight = 152.4
Food = oatmeal switched out for shredded wheat today, and added a cup of green beans to lunch.
Decided maybe next week to start adding some red meat in.
Weights = Leg day yesterday was GREAT!!! Tore them up. Tonight is Chest and arms.
Notes:
-Yesterday was a health fair here at work and they had one of those hand held electronic things. Same one I used to play with when I was dieting down just to see what it would tell me. Well I was suprised it read 22%. Lower then I was thinking. Then when I used to use it back in the day when I was at 14% it would read me out as 17%. So if that is still holding true.... who knows.. I know a lot of things factor in like water but I would be happy knowing my BF is 19-22%. So SBT and I are still working with calipers to calibrate each other on taking the measures accurately and consistently.
-Switched out my NO2 Anavar supp, with Trac. I think I had a great leg day with it. The stuff still is not the best tasting stuff... I think all the flavors they have are trying to mask the bitterness of the N02. So yesterday was fruit punch aspirin taste. The anavar Supp is like chewing on a orange peel.. 10 times stronger then just the peel. I'll monitor this one.
-Face finally clearing up a bit.. not sure what the dealio is...
-3 weeks of a clean diet this sunday, whowhooo
treilin said:October 9 2006
Mood = Good
Soreness = Achey here and there
Didn't really get a day off last week from the gym well working out because I did enough activity on my off day to at least constitue a gym day.
Food = Switched it up a little bit
Today I have shredded wheat instead of oatmeal (new replacement), and a apple cider, sweet potato, chicken meal for lunch. Not the tooth decay apple cider..
Weights hams, glutes, abs
Notes...
-Have my new program starting next week wrote up, just need to type it up
-Face is starting to clear up almost clear... I have no idea what that was all about. CK I don't eat bread so ?!
-JPT as far as Trac we will see.... I don't have a vote in yet on it!
-Weight seems to be increasing about a pound a week, clothes still feeling the same, a bit tighter around the legs and butt, but that's good!
-Measurements and all will be done again this next sunday at the end/beginning of a new cycle, and then again every 4 weeks from there.
Pictures... Hmm I'm still getting my diet in order and once I get the BF and measurements in check, I may... In due timeck2006 said:While I agree with JPt, but foods do affect your homormones so it is all corilated. But if you don't eat bread, I don't know, maybe stress, which sucks.
With those measurements will we be getting pics????
Have a good one!
ck2006 said:good morning,
Awesome job on the clean dieting. Not that I am an expert but as soon as I started bulking my face broke out like never before, especially my forehead. My trainer told me it was the bread?? As soon as I switched from whole wheat to rye and melba toast it has been clearing up and fast. I also noticed a difference in the texture of my hair??
Maybe... but I didn't start eating the shredded wheat until after I was broke out?!?! I have eaten it the past 2 days and my skin is clearing up. The only other thing I can think of... Was computer processing took a BUNCH of time here at work last week and I think I was holding my head in my hands waiting for stuff to finish... Maybe the bacteria on my hands caused it.. because it's only around my chin area... and the past two days was the weekend and I was not sitting around holding my head waiting on stuff... I went crazy with Pro Activ and a few masks. If it were hormonal it should be messing up now because I start in the next few days.Sassy69 said:Are you allergic/sensitive to wheat?
Otherwise Vitamin B5 - Pantothenic Acid is fantastic for clearing up acne.
treilin said:Maybe... but I didn't start eating the shredded wheat until after I was broke out?!?! I have eaten it the past 2 days and my skin is clearing up. The only other thing I can think of... Was computer processing took a BUNCH of time here at work last week and I think I was holding my head in my hands waiting for stuff to finish... Maybe the bacteria on my hands caused it.. because it's only around my chin area... and the past two days was the weekend and I was not sitting around holding my head waiting on stuff... I went crazy with Pro Activ and a few masks. If it were hormonal it should be messing up now because I start in the next few days.
I will give that a try, ThanksSassy69 said:Ah ok -- intersting only on your chin.
Anyway Vit B5 is still my main secret weapon against zits.

I can be an eye witnessck2006 said:While I agree with JPt, but foods do affect your homormones so it is all corilated. But if you don't eat bread, I don't know, maybe stress, which sucks.
With those measurements will we be getting pics????
Have a good one!

treilin said:Was computer processing took a BUNCH of time here at work last week and I think I was holding my head in my hands waiting for stuff to finish... Maybe the bacteria on my hands caused it.. because it's only around my chin area....
trimojo said:I get some acne on my chin too. I touch my face too much. Also, make sure you wipe off telephones with rubbing alcohol. Bacteria city!![]()
Especially when people are all excited on the telephone and spit on the mouth piece.

Thank uSassy69 said:Awesome deads progress!
Thank GOD I have my own phones, and 2 out 3 keyboards I only use!Trimojo said:I get some acne on my chin too. I touch my face too much. Also, make sure you wipe off telephones with rubbing alcohol. Bacteria city!
Especially when people are all excited on the telephone and spit on the mouth piece.
You mean you can feel people spit, through the phone?trimojo said:I get some acne on my chin too. I touch my face too much. Also, make sure you wipe off telephones with rubbing alcohol. Bacteria city!![]()
Especially when people are all excited on the telephone and spit on the mouth piece.

OK, I'll ask. What's Trac?jpt said:you really dissapointed me with that whole massging the warts business.....i thought it you were going to say sb or something...
diet looks good...excellent notes. i have them in my head and usually too lazy to type them in my log lol. good luck with back tonight...i hope it's the trac this way theres a new supp i can tryi'm such a supp junkie!!
Thanksjpt said:
Death to the legs! Hams are tighter then heck right now. Can't wait to see what's in store in tomorrow's soreness making me much more eager for that HIIT session, treilin said:O.k. I'll update on my work-out now.. Since it's 10 o'clock and I still could go back 4 more...
Weights all increased again. Funny because I was getting ready to do rows with 90 pounds, 12 reps low tut (last exercise) blah blah blah.. and SBT got this paranoid look on her face like WTF?!?! We only did 60-70 last week... So I did a couple and stopped because the furrowed eyebrows on her face made me think I was doing something wrong... Until I realized I copied over 90 and I was supposed to copy over 70 onto my new sheet. Well needless to say I finished my 4th set at 80 pounds, 12 reps w/ a little aid on a few reps. Most weight went up roughly 5-10 pounds. Last week of Hypertrophy and I want to go all out so I'm doing heavier weights, more focus on eccentric training on the last 2 sets. I didn't feel the full on fledged pump I did yesterday.. but I did train at 7:00 instead of 5:30.. I seem to do better at the 5:30 slot.. 7 I start getting tired. Tomorrow is cardio so I won't be able to give a full report... but THURSDAY.... is Quads and calves!!Death to the legs! Hams are tighter then heck right now. Can't wait to see what's in store in tomorrow's soreness making me much more eager for that HIIT session,
sarcasm inserted here.
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