Questions Regarding Helladrol

[uhh123abc]

Hi all,
I'm putting together a cycle with Helladrol, but I'd like a little more guidance as to being the smartest I can with it. There are also a few discrepancies that I've noted from some sources that I'm sure you guys can help with. Thanks in advance, and here's what I've got so far:

Cycle (5 weeks)
-Helladrol (From MrSupps)
25/50/50/50/75 So basically, 25mgs a day for the first week, then 50 for the next three, and then one final week of 75mgs a day.
-CEL Cycle Assist 4 capsules 2 hours after my first Helladrol capsule, and 4 2 hours after my final capsule before bed.

PCT (5 weeks)
-Forged Post Cycle 2 capsules a day
-Forma Stanzol 5 pumps in the morning and 5 pumps at night
-CEL Cycle Assist 3 capsules 2 hours after Forged Post Cycle and 3 capsules after, before bed.


Supplements I'll be taking during both Cycle/PCT
-Hydrolyzed Whey
-Animal Pak Multivitamin
-Enteric Coated Fish Oil Pills


Here's my diet

Breakfast- 6 Hard boiled eggs, 2 cups of oatmeal with a protein shake
Second Breakfast- 8-9oz chicken breast with a fruit or vegetable
Lunch-8-9oz chicken breast/beef with a fruit or vegetable
Dinner- 4 hard boiled eggs, 5oz chicken breast with a fruit of vegetable
Bedtime snack- 1 cup of 0% fat cottage cheese


Usually what I do is throw in a protein bar between one of those meals. I don't always have the time when I work out, but what I do know, is that it will always be after breakfast, and I'll take my whey immediately after. I also don't have a specific time that I will eat dinner, but I do know it will be before 11. Nor do I know when I will wake up, go to sleep. Probably not before 7am, and I do like to get a full 8 hours. This is because of work.



Questions
-Is Forma Stanzol worth it? I'm looking for the most beneficial PCT, of course, but I just find it odd that it goes on through the skin. It's interesting.
-Should I need more support for my liver and such then what I've got?
-Should I start taking Forged Post Cycle and Forma Stanzol on the last week of my cycle?
-Will my normal suppliments interfere with the cycle or vice versa? What if I drank some green tea?





Thanks guys.

 

[dan188]

25mg is real low to start, that's 1 cap. Add a liver supp to the cycle. Search for helladrol cycles, Dylan has offered several cycle setups with hella that are spot on.

 

[uhh123abc]

25mg is real low to start, that's 1 cap. Add a liver supp to the cycle. Search for helladrol cycles, Dylan has offered several cycle setups with hella that are spot on.

That sounds like a plan. However, if I added, say, forged liver support, wouldn't it be redundant?
This is part of the description of CEL cycle assist from amazon: "Cycle Assist contains a combination of specifically dosed ingredients designed to help provide liver, blood pressure, cholesterol, prostate, and acne support."


I'll look for those cycle examples

 

[uhh123abc]

Oh wow I was reading his helladrol transformation thread. He took Helladrol for two weeks longer than recommended and on his last week 125mg! That's 2-3x the recommended dosage. I don't know what to think of that because obviously I don't know as much but that's a lot. But from reading his thread I'm going to make these changes:
25/50/50/50/75
Move Forma Stanzol to week 3 and continue throughout PCT



I can't seem to find anything like "Recommended Helladrol cycles" but I'm still looking. Also, he's got creatine on there. I've been staying away from that from the water retention. Should I bother? Dylan looks shredded anyway.
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Also, I was reading another post from someone else from that same thread:
"I love it! I think he brain picked me Well thought out cycle. All the esters are basically the same; he's using different compounds that hit different receptors; and the compounds he is using all have a different biological benefit. Also, his dosages for each compound are moderate, which will enable him to utilize each compound without wasting the gear. Moreover, his cycle is not too short nor is it too long, it is moderate, which will give him optimum results. Nice work!!"



As I said previously, he's running helladrol for 2 weeks longer and taking 2-3x the recommended amount according to Mrsupps. What's going on?

 

[dan188]

I believe that quote is regarding an AAS cycle, not hella. Here is an example cycle that is pretty average around here with hella

1-6 helladrol 75/75/75/100/100/125
1-6 transaderm
1-6 n2gaurd
3-12 forma

PCT
6-10 Unleashed Post cycle combo or test infusion
6-12 forma
6-12 DAA 5g e/d

I bolded some things you don't have included... on cycle no test support/shutdown support. Such could be transaderm, hcgenerate or unleashed. PCT test support, again same products or DAA like listed above.

 

[uhh123abc]

I believe that quote is regarding an AAS cycle, not hella. Here is an example cycle that is pretty average around here with hella

1-6 helladrol 75/75/75/100/100/125
1-6 transaderm
1-6 n2gaurd
3-12 forma

PCT
6-10 Unleashed Post cycle combo or test infusion
6-12 forma
6-12 DAA 5g e/d

I bolded some things you don't have included... on cycle no test support/shutdown support. Such could be transaderm, hcgenerate or unleashed. PCT test support, again same products or DAA like listed above.

Okay, makes sense. That sounds pretty good, but could you explain the differences between the example I gave and yours? I'm still under the impression that taking 125mg any day and exceeding 5 weeks is a little bit crazy. Thanks for the help so far.

 

[joonp]

Im in my first cycle of helladrol at 75/75/100/100/125/125. Im bout 3 1/2 weeks in. I thought the same thing b cuz the bottle dose advice is 25mg=1pill but from all that i read and from dylan's advice i upped it to this dosage and im very happy wih the results so far. Looking back if i ran at 25 or even 50 that would be way too low a dosage....

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[notjake11]

Most who have used it will tell you that running it at 25 or 50 is just a waste.

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[uhh123abc]

Alright, thanks for the advice guys. I'm still hesitant to go over 100, but I'll up it to
50/50/50/75/75/100.


I'm still curious as to the differences between my stated cycle and the one Dan posted.

 

[infraredline]

Alright, thanks for the advice guys. I'm still hesitant to go over 100, but I'll up it to
50/50/50/75/75/100.


I'm still curious as to the differences between my stated cycle and the one Dan posted.

You don't even need to go over 75 in my opinion, 100 is a pretty hefty dose. Remember less is more

You would probably be fine at 50 for the first 3 weeks and 75 for the last 3