Question for needsize

[babymonkey]

This question is for needsize and for anyone else if they want to reply. I was just reading some of your posts on bad techniques used in your gym. I have two questions though.

First: I like to go to the cables and drop them all the way to the floor and do cross overs in an upwards motion. I feel this gives my lower chest a good work out. Am I wasting my time with this exercize?

Second: I don't know much about weightlifting but I am learning a lot from this site. I can be accused of doing "partials" on some exersizes also. I just figured out what a partial was. When doing incline dumbell press, my first four sets I go all the way down. When I do my fifth set I grab the 100's and I go just past half way with those because it feels like my chest is going to rip if I go any further. My reasoning for doing so much weight but only partially is that I think my body needs to feel the 100's. Even if it is only for 3 partial reps. Is this a waste of my time also?

 

[louden_swain]

Partials have their place. . . . but not all the time. In your case, I don't see a problem. Sometimes I will perform a set of partials to get the feel of the weight.

 

[needsize]

Personally I've never done partials, have always used full range, and have done well for myself doing that. But that's not to say that they dont have their place. As long as most of your routine is full range, and you're not kidding yourself when doing partials, you know that's what they are, then it's not a problem.

As for cables, my philosophy has always been, the more weight you use in good form, the bigger you get. As a result I stick with compound exercises where I can lift more weight. My whole chest routine consists of heavy bench, dumbell presses and dumbell flyes, and this has built a pretty solid chest for me. I used this example in the other thread, but flyes are my third exercise, and on a good day I'll use 80-90lb dumbells for clean reps. There is no way a cable could duplicate that sort of stress on the muscle.

Hope I answered your question, it's 2am in the morning here and I think I'm rambling.....

 

[babymonkey]

Thanks for the feedback bro. I'll take it for what it is worth. Now
I was reading your work out routine and your chest work out was very simple and your chest is very big. You say you only do Flat bench, Incline dumbbell press, and incline dumbbell Flyes. Do you change this up to hit the muscles differently. Like swaping bar for dumbbell or Pec Deck for Flyes. Do you do any Decline exercizes. Maybe I am just over working my chest, because I bench a lot but my chest isn't very big.

 

[needsize]

Thanks for the feedback bro. I'll take it for what it is worth. Now
I was reading your work out routine and your chest work out was very simple and your chest is very big. You say you only do Flat bench, Incline dumbbell press, and incline dumbbell Flyes. Do you change this up to hit the muscles differently. Like swaping bar for dumbbell or Pec Deck for Flyes. Do you do any Decline exercizes. Maybe I am just over working my chest, because I bench a lot but my chest isn't very big.

too be honest I dont switch up the exercises much as there really arent many good mass builders for any body part. That being said i probably should switch it up more. What I will do is keep the same basic exercises, but switch up the order or the rep scheme. Personally I dont like decline press, I dont think they are necessary, flat bench hits the lower chest as well, but has a better range of motion.
This is just opinion though

 

[babymonkey]

Alright, I started your training routine today. I will post progress in a few weeks.

 

[needsize]

cool, let us know how it works out