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question about pl federations

sinjinsmythe33

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new guy here. i have a question about the various pl organizations. i was reading powerlifting usa's march issue specifically the ipf top ten world records. the highest bench listed was 672 in the 125+ class, squat 970 in the 125 class. there seem to be a number of guys benching over 700 at a lower bodyweight, i.e jesse kellum 700+ at 209. i have also read about squats well in excess of 1000 by a number of guys. i understand that some of these lifts may have been done in exhibitions and that the ipf records are for the world championship event. my question is do the standards for the execution of the lifts, equipment or drug testsing vary that much between the organizations? sorry for this disjointed post but i was just curious. i did perform a search but didnt turn up anything useful.
 
usapl/ipf -- the usapl is the USA's IPF affiliate. the IPF is pretty much the most popular for international competition. the rules are very strict, the gear use is limited (single ply only), and there is supposedly drug testing (but this has been proven time and time again to be a farce).

apf/wpc -- apf is probably most popular is US judging by membership numbes, but the WPC (international version) is not as big as the IPF. Multiply gear use is legal here, the judging is NOT as strict (uneven extensions, head raised off bench, squats to parallel but not way below), and the use of a monolift and extra long squat bars are allowed, and there is no drug testing

ipa -- almost exactly like the apf. it has a strong base in the northeastern part of the us. most westside lifters lift here.


that is a rundown. if you are new to competition, i would heartily recommend the APF. I believe it combines the best of all. If you are a committed drug free lifter, the AAPF (amateur apf) is also around but there are not a whole lot of lifters participating with this yet.

hope this helps.
 
I have been very happy with the APF. Of course, the meet promoters play a large role in that, and I've gotten lucky with great people like the Wessels and Gorrell. I like knowing that whether I'm on or not, in lots of lifting gear or not, I've got every odd stacked against me going into it. I'd rather take 5th to a bunch of people openly taking advantage of the limitations, than take 1st to a bunch of people that are "working around" the limitations. There's no need for BSing in the APF.
 
...you should probably check your facts.

everyone in the know or who has been around for any period of time knows the APF is headquartered in Aurora, IL by Ernie Frantz and now Ernie and Kieran.


My hope is Kieran Kidder has his lawyers handle LB Baker and his squad of idiots. The internet is not the place to settle their gripe. If you have been following, an injunction has already been filed seeking to prohibit Baker and co. from hosting 'APF' meets.

There is no need to spread dissention about it here. let the courts deal with it now.
 
USAPL's rules aren't strict! They just follow the rules as written! Deep squats, motionless pause on the chest to a full locked out position for bench, etc. , and they do not allow the use of 2 ply, 3 ply, denim crazy gear! And yes, they do drug test.
 
The rules are strict-- in comparison to others.

I've had squats that were clearly below parallel, still get red lighted.


I've gotten called on deadlifts for a leg twitch , that looked like a tiny hitch.

If you screw up a tiny bit.. you're done for in the USAPL..

I still think they kick ass though :)

And yeah..they do drug test.. i got drug tested when i was 14
 
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