American male homosapien. Who the fuck do you think you are jumping into my tread being a smart ass? No room for punks here dude just asking for advice from people who matter.
American male homosapien. Who the fuck do you think you are jumping into my tread being a smart ass? No room for punks here dude just asking for advice from people who matter.
fuckin article 15 for a tattoo bullshit
American male homosapien. Who the fuck do you think you are jumping into my tread being a smart ass? No room for punks here dude just asking for advice from people who matter.
That's funny I know exactly what you mean, I'm there myself!! And it's usually only the guys who have had hot brass down their collars understand. They offered me a pretty sweet deal too. A close friend of mine is already there, they are willing to give me a 1 year contract with a sign on bonus!! But....
We all know how that shit goes. I have a good job a good girl who is encouraging me to do it with a kid on the way and I am thinking about jumping without a shoot. I am very fortunate most people would be thrilled with what i have.But I feel like something is missing....
Triple canopy, Aerotek, honeywell. It took me 6 months of emails and phone calls to get on with Aerotek. Started at 120k for a 6x6 Helmand Afghanistan.
Nice! Good for you brotha! I'm talking (email) with SOC and triple canopy right now. But its going soooooo slow.
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Nice! Good for you brotha! I'm talking (email) with SOC and triple canopy right now. But its going soooooo slow.
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My resume looks good. I actually talk to triple canopy. Two spots I applied for wouldn't work because they require a "active clearance" mine ran out years ago. I applied for another spot last week with them for a armed guard position. Won't be nearly as fun, or as much pay as I want. But they will get me a clearance that way. Looking now for companys out side of the middle east that don't need a clearance. There's not as many though.....
Talk to the Marines again but they don't have short contracts. The Army does offer a one year contract for prior service. So I might go in for one year just to get a security clearance.
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I have been thinking about doing the unthinkable and "going back"!! I recently got an offer from an ODA group and been thinking about taking them up on it. Have I forgotten all the pain??
What are they requiring? S, TS, TS/SCI, TS/SCI w/POLY?
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my brother in law did.. he was one of the 1st 500 that died in Iraq...
don't do it..
my sister and her son miss him very much
on the other hand she's Almost spent the $500,000 in death benefits but she gets to go to college for free and so does he, and she gets social security for the boy til he turns 19..
oh and she's moved on living with another Joe giving him 2 children but not getting married to him because that would terminate the benefits..
but you know..
oh his mom misses him as well, his 3 sisters and 2 brothers, it's a mess at christmas and thanksgiving time.. but you do what you think will make you happy..
Anything good ill need a s or ts.
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My buddy works for triple canopy, they paid for his clearance, its all online now. We were both 11b's, 105 day deployments, 500$/day is the rate theyre paying him. Hes doing psd, says is easy. Their training facility is in lousianna. Seems like a pretty good gig though. I currently work for the DoD, ill never quit for a contractor job.
Irrelevant. I was shot 5 times in two deployments and wouldn't hesitate about going again. Dying is an understood risk assumed by all. I lost my brother on our birthday Apr 7 of this year in Helmand province, same place I was hurt in. But that still doesn't change my outlook on it.
I feel the same way! You take that risk when you join, any branch for that matter. The only reason her and her kids are safe is because people give there lives to protect are country.
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Well thanks for all the advice guys I appreciate it, thanks. Most people have no idea what kind of sacrifices it takes to ensure our way of life continues and you know what I'm glad they don't that let's me know we are doing a good job! I love it when people ask about the armed forces and say thank you and call you a hero. I always think about the RI who told me there are no live heroes! But we don't say that to civilians bc they would never understand. Death is always part of the equation but you don't realize it untill the shit gets real and you think to yourself what the fuck am I doing here! We all have to die from something As for you guys trying to get into contract work.... PM me and I will do what ever I can to help. As for the SF thing... I'm thinking I'm going to go for it. I would rather be dead and know than spend the rest of my life wandering "what if " I had the balls to go after something that gives you
satisfaction that can't be found doing anything else.
Well put my friend, and sorry for being a little off subject but it really bothers me that so many people now a days take our Freedom for granted and could give 2 craps less about the men and women who have sacrificed so much for us (this country) to have and maintain our Freedom!
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I have been thinking about doing the unthinkable and "going back"!! I recently got an offer from an ODA group and been thinking about taking them up on it. Have I forgotten all the pain??
"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me."
Just a couple questions, regarding this statement, "Most people have no idea what kind of sacrifices it takes to ensure our way of life..."
what is "our way of life," just so we have a baseline for discussion.
Secondly, assuming "our way of life" means the continuation of the political system we've had since the 18th century, when has it been threatened by an external military threat? The best I've got is the War of 1812 which was started by the United States as a land grab for Canada but The British Empire had no intention of re-subjugating.
Coffee, nobody wants your Wikipedia quotes or lectures
I quoted the OP...
If you want to participate intelligently I would suggest you read the post you respond too. Otherwise, go back to jerking off to Full Metal jacket and spare us.
First learn the difference between to, too and two. I respond to shit I know about unlike you whom I've noticed don't know too much. Also I jerk off to heartbreak ridge not full metal jacket, that's just what I use to get hot.
First learn the difference between to, too and two. I respond to shit I know about unlike you whom I've noticed don't know too much. Also I jerk off to heartbreak ridge not full metal jacket, that's just what I use to get hot.
"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me."
Just a couple questions, regarding this statement, "Most people have no idea what kind of sacrifices it takes to ensure our way of life..."
what is "our way of life," just so we have a baseline for discussion.
Secondly, assuming "our way of life" means the continuation of the political system we've had since the 18th century, when has it been threatened by an external military threat? The best I've got is the War of 1812 which was started by the United States as a land grab for Canada but The British Empire had no intention of re-subjugating.
My friend, im pretty sure the way he said "our way of life" has nothing to do with politics! Im pretty sure it is directly related to: you pick your job, you choose where you want to live, you have the freedom to come and go as you please, things of that nature. Obviously you haven't experienced the things that (from what I can see) most all the others in this conversation have! We have luxuries in this country that we take for granted every day that people in other countries would love to have! Also instead of jumping into something and acting like a douche, if you truly want to know something ask politely! And another thing while im going, You should count your stars for the past present and future troops of this country my friend! Without them, the team work, and courageousness they have shown and will continue to show, by now this probably wouldn't even be a country! If it weren't for our troops overseas right now, this war would still be going on it would just be in our front yard instead of in theirs!
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why are they always special forces?? I dont get it
I think its just missing that familiar enronment, and not used to dealing with "stupid" civilians.
Name a single military conflict that preserved the rights you listed. Every right you listed has been infringed on by the federal government since 9/11, not some foreign power. If you want to play the "patriot" card then you need to go all the way back The American Revolution.
I just pulled my report of seperation and record of service;Between active duty and reserve time I have 8 years 3 months and 28 days of thugery as a 13B. I lost six months of my life sitting in the Saudi desert with only the French Foreign Legion armored brigade to associate with defending Israeli and House of Sayed interests as a mercenary paid for by US taxpayers.
The former head of the Bin laden unit explains the greatest threats to US security in southwest Asia.
Pirates and Emperors are the same thing...
Well i do not have the time nor am i willing to put up and listen to some hippy liberal English major dush bag who reads the news paper and watches Glenn Beck and thinks he knows something about U.S. foreign policy! Rocket was spot on with what i met by "our way of life"...... Additionally what i men by that is so that American people don't have to live in fear of someone flying planes into buildings or blowing them up with car bombs on U.S. soil. And like i said; that is why civilians do not understand. I will tell you what if you don't like it here than get the fuck out!!! There is a great place in France waiting for you, and I am even willing to pay your way and I mean that. The only condition is that you have to hand over all ID so that you can not come back here and infect this world with your bullshit. I realize that you are entitled to your opinion regardless if i like it or not, but you must be absolutely insane to jump into a conversation (which you added no relevance to the over all topic) and stir a shit pot. I hope that I have made my point or did I make a mistake in grammar?
quit crying you brainwashed faggotWell i do not have the time nor am i willing to put up and listen to some hippy liberal English major dush bag who reads the news paper and watches Glenn Beck and thinks he knows something about U.S. foreign policy! Rocket was spot on with what i met by "our way of life"...... Additionally what i men by that is so that American people don't have to live in fear of someone flying planes into buildings or blowing them up with car bombs on U.S. soil. And like i said; that is why civilians do not understand. I will tell you what if you don't like it here than get the fuck out!!! There is a great place in France waiting for you, and I am even willing to pay your way and I mean that. The only condition is that you have to hand over all ID so that you can not come back here and infect this world with your bullshit. I realize that you are entitled to your opinion regardless if i like it or not, but you must be absolutely insane to jump into a conversation (which you added no relevance to the over all topic) and stir a shit pot. I hope that I have made my point or did I make a mistake in grammar?
quit crying you brainwashed faggot
Java jumps into every military thread thinking he knows shit and that he's some well educated historian and shit.
As for woot. Well you're fighting a losing battle trying to get him to not talk shit. This is CC and he loves to stir the pot. Don't take it personally. When I first joined EF I almost got banned cause he pissed me off so bad I said some shit we're not allowed to on here.
I know, right? LOL! Who knew all the SF badasses would congregate here at EF?
My dad wasn't SF, but he lived war for 4 years, every day in the South Pacific. When the time came to get out after the Japs surrendered, he couldn't go fast enough or get far enough away.
War was a lot messier then I guess. We (mom and the kids) didn't know he had nightmares all the time. The stories we heard were about him and his buddies getting into trouble for fighting with some drunken sailors or some other foolishness. He never talked about the bodies he'd seen piled up (both American and Japs), or the buddies that got killed or the Japs he'd shot, or any other "totally cool adrenaline rushing" sort of stuff. He would talk about getting shot at and the food running out and not getting rations for several weeks, sleeping under a parka in a hole filled with muddy water and worse. He was clear that it was very shitty.
He never showed the effect that the horrors of war had on him though. Back then they didn't talk to shrinks when they came home. Hell they didn't talk to anyone about what they had done. They got jobs, got married, had kids, and lived a normal life. I guess they got pretty adrenaline'd out after 4 years non stop. Or maybe they were just weak and helpless?
My dad didn't want any of his kids to go into any branch of the service. That was how bad war was for him. He said when they got back and were lined up and were asked who wanted to re-up...not one of them stepped forward. Maybe they should have waited a few weeks or months to ask them? lol.
Let me also say that I respect those who serve and have served. I am glad and thankful they do/did what they do/did. Thank you guys for your service.
Well i do not have the time nor am i willing to put up and listen to some hippy liberal English major dush bag who reads the news paper and watches Glenn Beck and thinks he knows something about U.S. foreign policy! Rocket was spot on with what i met by "our way of life"...... Additionally what i men by that is so that American people don't have to live in fear of someone flying planes into buildings or blowing them up with car bombs on U.S. soil. And like i said; that is why civilians do not understand. I will tell you what if you don't like it here than get the fuck out!!! There is a great place in France waiting for you, and I am even willing to pay your way and I mean that. The only condition is that you have to hand over all ID so that you can not come back here and infect this world with your bullshit. I realize that you are entitled to your opinion regardless if i like it or not, but you must be absolutely insane to jump into a conversation (which you added no relevance to the over all topic) and stir a shit pot. I hope that I have made my point or did I make a mistake in grammar?
American male homosapien. Who the fuck do you think you are jumping into my tread being a smart ass? No room for punks here dude just asking for advice from people who matter.
Java jumps into every military thread thinking he knows shit and that he's some well educated historian and shit.
As for woot. Well you're fighting a losing battle trying to get him to not talk shit. This is CC and he loves to stir the pot. Don't take it personally. When I first joined EF I almost got banned cause he pissed me off so bad I said some shit we're not allowed to on here.
American male homosapien. Who the fuck do you think you are jumping into my tread being a smart ass? No room for punks here dude just asking for advice from people who matter.
woot lives in canada...eh
java does jump in to every military thread...his views change depending on what pot he's trying to stir
semper is a good bro...even if his sense of humor is a little flat (jarheads what can ya do)
and here I thought you were jumpin in to follow me around and your swingin from woots nuts
wtf
I know, right? LOL! Who knew all the SF badasses would congregate here at EF?
My dad wasn't SF, but he lived war for 4 years, every day in the South Pacific. When the time came to get out after the Japs surrendered, he couldn't go fast enough or get far enough away.
War was a lot messier then I guess. We (mom and the kids) didn't know he had nightmares all the time. The stories we heard were about him and his buddies getting into trouble for fighting with some drunken sailors or some other foolishness. He never talked about the bodies he'd seen piled up (both American and Japs), or the buddies that got killed or the Japs he'd shot, or any other "totally cool adrenaline rushing" sort of stuff. He would talk about getting shot at and the food running out and not getting rations for several weeks, sleeping under a parka in a hole filled with muddy water and worse. He was clear that it was very shitty.
He never showed the effect that the horrors of war had on him though. Back then they didn't talk to shrinks when they came home. Hell they didn't talk to anyone about what they had done. They got jobs, got married, had kids, and lived a normal life. I guess they got pretty adrenaline'd out after 4 years non stop. Or maybe they were just weak and helpless?
My dad didn't want any of his kids to go into any branch of the service. That was how bad war was for him. He said when they got back and were lined up and were asked who wanted to re-up...not one of them stepped forward. Maybe they should have waited a few weeks or months to ask them? lol.
Let me also say that I respect those who serve and have served. I am glad and thankful they do/did what they do/did. Thank you guys for your service.
Java jumps into every military thread thinking he knows shit and that he's some well educated historian and shit.
As for woot. Well you're fighting a losing battle trying to get him to not talk shit. This is CC and he loves to stir the pot. Don't take it personally. When I first joined EF I almost got banned cause he pissed me off so bad I said some shit we're not allowed to on here.
Well i do not have the time nor am i willing to put up and listen to some hippy liberal English major dush bag who reads the news paper and watches Glenn Beck and thinks he knows something about U.S. foreign policy! Rocket was spot on with what i met by "our way of life"...... Additionally what i men by that is so that American people don't have to live in fear of someone flying planes into buildings or blowing them up with car bombs on U.S. soil. And like i said; that is why civilians do not understand. I will tell you what if you don't like it here than get the fuck out!!! There is a great place in France waiting for you, and I am even willing to pay your way and I mean that. The only condition is that you have to hand over all ID so that you can not come back here and infect this world with your bullshit. I realize that you are entitled to your opinion regardless if i like it or not, but you must be absolutely insane to jump into a conversation (which you added no relevance to the over all topic) and stir a shit pot. I hope that I have made my point or did I make a mistake in grammar?
It took years to stop drinking the koolaid...
I cared about my soldiers and I care about the soldiers to this day.
I know what the young ones think.
oh, you "KNOW" what the young ones think huh? You sure are painting with a broad-ass brush Mr. Beck-misrepresentative.
I'm not trying to start anything but so many ppl in this country and in the military are completely brain washed. We are fighting the these great wars on in the name of democracy., give me a break. We have no freedom anymore in this country. Military men should want to fight in our own boarders because our own government has been overtaken for quite some time now. You guys should also be aware of false flag attacks. I'll leave it at this.., Kissinger: "military men are dumb stupid animal to be used as pawns in foreign policy".
I'm not trying to start anything but so many ppl in this country and in the military are completely brain washed. We are fighting the these great wars on in the name of democracy., give me a break. We have no freedom anymore in this country. Military men should want to fight in our own boarders because our own government has been overtaken for quite some time now. You guys should also be aware of false flag attacks. I'll leave it at this.., Kissinger: "military men are dumb stupid animal to be used as pawns in foreign policy".
I do understand and respect your opinion but you need to go and see for yourself what it is like to have no rights! Some American civilians feel that the war in Iraq and Afghanistan is unnecessary and they are allowed to have that opinion. But everyone is loosing sight on the big picture, you have to ask yourself is the world a better place without Saddam Husain? Yes it is the man exterminated thousands of people, bc they had different beliefs. When you talk to those people over there they were terrified of Saddam even after he had been found guilty in a court of law that the US helped set up for stabilization of the country. As for Afghanistan I think the results speak for themselves, there have been no attacks on US soil since the invasion. I would rather have soldiers being attacked than American civilians, at least the military has the means to defend themselves. War is terrible, but it is necessary to defend the civilian populace. One thing that drives me absolutely insane is that people bitch about how bad things are but they don't vote!! Well my vote doesn't matter they say; well how do know if you don't do it? That is our right and duty as citizens to make our voice heard.
I do understand and respect your opinion but you need to go and see for yourself what it is like to have no rights! Some American civilians feel that the war in Iraq and Afghanistan is unnecessary and they are allowed to have that opinion. But everyone is loosing sight on the big picture, you have to ask yourself is the world a better place without Saddam Husain? Yes it is the man exterminated thousands of people, bc they had different beliefs. When you talk to those people over there they were terrified of Saddam even after he had been found guilty in a court of law that the US helped set up for stabilization of the country. As for Afghanistan I think the results speak for themselves, there have been no attacks on US soil since the invasion. I would rather have soldiers being attacked than American civilians, at least the military has the means to defend themselves. War is terrible, but it is necessary to defend the civilian populace. One thing that drives me absolutely insane is that people bitch about how bad things are but they don't vote!! Well my vote doesn't matter they say; well how do know if you don't do it? That is our right and duty as citizens to make our voice heard.
I do understand and respect your opinion but you need to go and see for yourself what it is like to have no rights! Some American civilians feel that the war in Iraq and Afghanistan is unnecessary and they are allowed to have that opinion. But everyone is loosing sight on the big picture, you have to ask yourself is the world a better place without Saddam Husain? Yes it is the man exterminated thousands of people, bc they had different beliefs. When you talk to those people over there they were terrified of Saddam even after he had been found guilty in a court of law that the US helped set up for stabilization of the country. As for Afghanistan I think the results speak for themselves, there have been no attacks on US soil since the invasion. I would rather have soldiers being attacked than American civilians, at least the military has the means to defend themselves. War is terrible, but it is necessary to defend the civilian populace. One thing that drives me absolutely insane is that people bitch about how bad things are but they don't vote!! Well my vote doesn't matter they say; well how do know if you don't do it? That is our right and duty as citizens to make our voice heard.
I'm "allowed to have an opinion." How magnanimous of you to allow me to disagree with you. Who pays for the military? It doesn't pay for itself...the military is the ultimate welfare queen.During his reign Saddam killed how many people? He was a US ally for most of his reign and roughly 100,000 Iraqi's died during the US occupation, that's a pretty solid death toll. In regard to your no attacks on US soil, Fort Hood shooting was a terrorist attack by someone with a security clearance issued by your government, there have been more attempted terrorist attacks by US citizens since 9/11 than the entire history of the country; The fact they are incompetent actors is irrelevant.
War is NOT NECESSARY it is a choice. The Taliban agreed to hand over Osama and his henchmen in 1998.
Taliban agreed Bin Laden handover | World news | The Guardian
Bush rejects Taliban offer to hand Bin Laden over
Bush rejects Taliban offer to hand Bin Laden over | World news | guardian.co.uk
"Taliban 'ready to discuss' Bin Laden handover if bombing halts
The Taliban would be ready to discuss handing over Osama bin Laden to a neutral country if the US halted the bombing of Afghanistan, a senior Taliban official said today.
Afghanistan's deputy prime minister, Haji Abdul Kabir, told reporters that the Taliban would require evidence that Bin Laden was behind the September 11 terrorist attacks in the US.
"If the Taliban is given evidence that Osama bin Laden is involved" and the bombing campaign stopped, "we would be ready to hand him over to a third country", Mr Kabir added.
U mad?
U mad?
Well it's a good thing a spineless pussy like you isn't running our country and making tough decisions bc a lot of innocent people would get hurt. You say war is not necessary you know nothing. You can quote youtube all you want and all these other supposed experts you want ,but i know what i saw and experienced you are going off someone's opinion. War is terrible and should only be used as a last resort but it is very necessary. I have tried to be nice and at least try to have some sort of dialog with you but your just as bad as the religious extremist who hate us. You are no veteran your a spineless COWARD who hides behind the people that gives you the rights to have conversations like this, and then bad mouths them for it. I have more respect for the people who hate us bc at least they stand for something. I'm have no time for cowards
Your a jackass, do yourself a favor and move to Mexico
Hey Woot. Looks like java is giving you a run for your money on shit starting lol
Hey Woot. Looks like java is giving you a run for your money on shit starting lol
To everyone else; stop responding. That's the only way to deal with douche bags like java. He's a spineless worm and really doesn't benefit anyone on this earth.
Ad hominem attack....
I never expect much from marines..they like to brag about non-accomplishments or battles the Army carried.
No, we let others gush at how bad ass we are. The rest, well it's all history. Give me a battle that the Army won and Marines claimed.
Most battles in the Pacific during WWII....
The Japanese were a pathetic opponent at best, antiquated equipment, outnumbered and starving at every battle. I have an arasaka carbine my father brought back as a war trophy; It's a patheic firearm.
The battle of Inchon is another....
non-accomplishments are in your theme song....beating up on Tripoli pirates and Mexico.
Marines are supposed to specialize in amphibious assault but the largest amphibious invasion in the history of humanity was 100% Army while the marines were in the rear with the gear, the June 6th assault on Normandy.
Ad hominem attack....
I never expect much from marines..they like to brag about non-accomplishments or battles the Army carried.
If you want to consider yourself a "hero" for attacking people that agreed to hand over Bin Laden and his henchmen to the international community for a fair trial then so be it but take off your body armor, trash your commo gear and fight the Taliban like men. Murder those peasants like God intended, with infantry tactics and overwhelming force not artillery, air strikes and advanced communication and control; Fight like men on equal ground.
Most battles in the Pacific during WWII....
The Japanese were a pathetic opponent at best, antiquated equipment, outnumbered and starving at every battle. I have an arasaka carbine my father brought back as a war trophy; It's a patheic firearm.
The battle of Inchon is another....
non-accomplishments are in your theme song....beating up on Tripoli pirates and Mexico.
Marines are supposed to specialize in amphibious assault but the largest amphibious invasion in the history of humanity was 100% Army while the marines were in the rear with the gear, the June 6th assault on Normandy.
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