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hehateme000 said:
PP what about what CEO said...about the cortisol not matching up with the test and how the test is supposed to increase when the cortisol decreases?

Are you referring the Testosterone:cortisol ratio? Because testosterone generally does rise when cortisol is reduced, and this is a good thing.

-Pp
 
ceo said:
Interesting. In this study, testosterone had a small increase during the first 3 weeks, then fell back. Cortisol didn't decrease until after week 6. Doesn't really fit with the indirect result we would expect of testosterone levels increasing due to cortisol levels decreasing.


How when tesosterone increases, cortisol decreases but in that study cortisol dropped at week 6, and test went up week 1-3.
 
hehateme000 said:
How when tesosterone increases, cortisol decreases but in that study cortisol dropped at week 6, and test went up week 1-3.

Which study are you referring to?

PS is going to help raise testosterone by reducing cortisol, however if your under significant training stress then the PS will at least help minimize the cortisol rise, which will at least minimize the reduction in testosterone generally associated with over-training.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Protein retention (aka muscle growth) can be enhanced by either an anti-catabolic, or an anabolic. Essentially they are the same thing, and either function can sway the equilibrium.

As far as the testosterone boost from cortisol reduction, it’s quite simple. When cortisol goes up, testosterone goes down and vise versa. Cortisol breaks down the leydig cells, so if you can prevent this catabolic breakdown, then you can increase the testes sensitivity to LH, and thus testosterone secretion. PS also has some intricate benefits for increasing steroid-to-enzyme association and increasing 3b HSD in testes. All these reffs are in the write up

Here is one abstract -

11. HORMONAL EFFECTS OF PHOSPHATIDYLSERINE DURING 2-WKS OF INTENSE WEIGHT TRAINING
[Annual Meeting Abstracts]
Fahey, T. D.; Pearl, M.
California State University, Chico

A double-blind, crossover design study, measured the effects of 800 mg/d soybean derived phosphatidylserine (PS) or placebo (C) during 2-wk intense weight training on cortisol (CT), adrenocorticotropin hormone (ACTH), testosterone (TS), luteinizing hormone (LH), well-being (WB), and muscle soreness (MS) in 11 trained males. Subjects did 5 sets of 10 repetitions of 13 exercises, 4 times/wk for 2, 2-wk periods (3-wk recovery). Venous blood was sampled 6 mornings (T1-T6) and 15-min following the 8th work-out (T7). WB and MS were estimated using 10-point scales. CT was the same in PS and C in T1-T6 but decreased between T6 and T7 in PS (15.6 ± 1.7 to 10.0±0.9μg/dL, mean±SEM, P<0.05) but not in C. ACTH did not change in PS in T1-T7 but increased in C between T4 and T5-7 by over 50%. TS increased in PS between T1 (3.3±0.3 ng/mL) and T3 (4.4±0.5 ng/mL) and fell in both treatments between T3 and T7 (3.3±0.3 ng/mL, PS; 3.3±0.4, C). LH increased significantly between T1 (1.5±0.1 mlU/mL) and T6(2.2±0.3 mlU/mL) in PS but did not change in C. WB was greater in P than C in T2-T6. In C, WB at T3 was markedly depressed (4.9±0.8). MS increased in both treatments and was greater in C than PS at T2 (61%) and T5(55%). Cortisol decreased in PS after exercise, possibly by depressing ACTH. PS attenuated the negative effects of intense weight training on perception of well-being and muscle soreness


This one. ^^^
 
Primordial Performance said:
Right, PS is going to lend to a better overall cortiol/testosterone ratio. As in, you're going to maintain lower levels of cortisol and higher levels of testosterone with PS.

-Pp
I have been using it and its great.
 
awesome PP and needto, thx again. Im gonna be kickstarting my test/deca cycle with dbol and derma!!
 
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