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Prime example of why abortion is bullshit!

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chesty said:
not rhetorical questions. Why should the man be the one to make sure the woman doesn't get pregnant? Seems like a statement that removes the responsibility from the woman. She has as much responsiblity if not more than the man that she chooses to screw. Why should he be shooting blanks? Why doesn't the woman go get herself fixed. Walla, problem solved. Or better yet, keep her legs crossed. Go by a B.O.B. if you can't.

and that lead nicely into your next statement..............

chesty said:
Remember, it takes two to fuck and two to be responsible. Let's not pass this off as soley the mans responsibility.

Yet you are trying to pass it off as solely the womans. The man shouldn't have to shoot blanks but a woman should get herself fixed. Or she should keep her legs crossed.

Then you say it takes two to fuck. ??????? It is a dual responsibility. Not the mans and not the womans.

chesty said:
You tell me the reasons to have an abortion, when it does not constitute a health problem for the woman (would cause death or something as bad)? I can understand if the woman was raped and she chose not to carry to term. Or if the baby was malformed such as what happens with spina bifida.

1. Are they going to be a bad mommy? Oh well. This is on the job training.
2. Are they poor? Give the kid up for adoption and get paid for it.
3. Will it interefer with her party life? Get a life
4. Will it interfere with her professional life? Guess they shouldn't have fucked then.
5. Will it ruin or at least affect her physical appearance to some degree? See number 4.
6. Is she afraid sex won't be as good (since things get stretched out?) Suck it up.
7. Is she afraid her parents won't accept (if she is under 18)? Understand fear, parents are fucked up if they won't accept.
8. Is she afraid in general? Deal with it. There are a lot worse things out there.
9. Was her timing off? See number 4.

Most of the reasons I have heard from women who have had abortions were for selfish reasons or by threats from parents. Neither of which I find acceptable.

Well guess what? They don't have to have your permission so who cares whether there reasons are acceptable to you. Leaving that aside, your list is nothing short of ludicrous. Interfere with her party life? Afraid of damaging her figure? Afraid sex won't be as good? Are you for real? I find these statements offensive as a male, I can only imagine what females think of your diatribe on this thread.
 
bluepeter said:
lmao

Post up some statistics supporting that ridiculous statement.

The example you started this thread with has absolutely nothing to do with abortion and everything to do with contradictory laws causing a travesty of justice. If you wanted to create a thread to spew ignorant views on abortion, why didn't you just do that?


Yes, I know that. The flow of the thread went anti abortion. So, I go with the flow.

I did put up some examples. My personal experience with several women friend who told me why they had their abortions. One was due to the parents threatening their daughter, and the other was because she didn't want another child.

And of all my women friends that have had one, this is the recurring theme of excuses.
 
chesty said:
Yes, I know that. The flow of the thread went anti abortion. So, I go with the flow.

I did put up some examples. My personal experience with several women friend who told me why they had their abortions. One was due to the parents threatening their daughter, and the other was because she didn't want another child.

And of all my women friends that have had one, this is the recurring theme of excuses.

I won't deny that their are idiots like this out there but let's be honest. The vast majority of women do not get abortions because they are afraid they will lose their shape or their sex life will suffer.
 
Beached Whale said:
The person in question bitching about a woman getting pregnant is a man.

Hence my question - if men are so upset about women becoming pregnant then perhaps they oughtta keep their dicks in their pants. Problem solved.

It's called personal responsibility.

Unless I am forcibly raped, I can not bitch about how some "asshole GOT ME pregnant".
....And even then, this would be HIS PROBLEM.... exactly HOW?

I am not bitching about a woman becoming pregnant, because I would choose to keep the child and raise it on my own with out if need be. I am bitching about how the argument always gets turned around to it being mans fault. "he should keep his dick in his pants" "he should be fixed (firing blanks)" "he should ensure she can't get pregnant" Why is it his responsiblity? Shouldn't the burden of protection be upon the woman?.
 
The main argument I have is that abortion laws are bullshit and in this case it is readily apparent.

either correct the laws so that killing an unborn child is murder and illegal for all or make it legal for all to kill. Even a criminal attacking a woman.
 
chesty said:
The main argument I have is that abortion laws are bullshit and in this case it is readily apparent.

either correct the laws so that killing an unborn child is murder and illegal for all or make it legal for all to kill. Even a criminal attacking a woman.

I agree at least that the law is silly. How can the girl be protected by the right to have an abortion but the guy is prosecuted under some fetal protection law? What the law should be is another topic altogether.
 
bluepeter said:
and that lead nicely into your next statement..............



Yet you are trying to pass it off as solely the womans. The man shouldn't have to shoot blanks but a woman should get herself fixed. Or she should keep her legs crossed.

Then you say it takes two to fuck. ??????? It is a dual responsibility. Not the mans and not the womans.



Well guess what? They don't have to have your permission so who cares whether there reasons are acceptable to you. Leaving that aside, your list is nothing short of ludicrous. Interfere with her party life? Afraid of damaging her figure? Afraid sex won't be as good? Are you for real? I find these statements offensive as a male, I can only imagine what females think of your diatribe on this thread.


My entire post there is rhetorical. But for the list, these are actual excuses I have personally heard from women who have had or are having an abortion. So don't lecture me about ridiculous or ludicrous. I also really don't care what some internet gal thinks of me. If you are embarrased to be a male and against abortion great, more power to you.

I for one am not embarrassed.

As for permission, she wanted to have sex, as much as the guy did which means both had to have permission. Therefore, both should have a say so in the entire matter.
 
chesty said:
I am not bitching about a woman becoming pregnant, because I would choose to keep the child and raise it on my own with out if need be. I am bitching about how the argument always gets turned around to it being mans fault. "he should keep his dick in his pants" "he should be fixed (firing blanks)" "he should ensure she can't get pregnant" Why is it his responsiblity? Shouldn't the burden of protection be upon the woman?.

See you are assuming that just because she becomes pregnant with your child (that BOTH of you made) she would want to bring it into this world.

Sorry, but because the child grows in her body - YOU dont get that option. The same way that a woman does not get the option of saying, "Ummm sorry bitch, but I dont know you." and skate leaving her holding the back. You got issue with that - TAKE IT UP WITH GOD.

Your entire arguement is silly. :rolleyes:

If a woman is wise she will most certainly make every effort to ensure that she does not become pregnant as it will be her burden alone, however, the only way to make sure of that is 100% abstinence.

If a man does not want to bear the burden of becoming a father or being faced with the issue of having a child that he sired aborted - guess what? He will most certainly do the same as the woman - keep his dick in his pants.
 
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