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Guinness5.0
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It's prop at 100mg EOD, tren at 75mg EOD, winny (oil based) at 25mg ED (orally - it gave me a NASTY welt when I put it in my delt).C3bodybuilding said:
And it's only been 7 days. I need to chill - I thought it had been ten
Pre-juice 5x5: Darkness on the Horizon
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And it's only been 7 days. I need to chill - I thought it had been ten
c3bodybuilding
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Even with prop and tren, it is still too soon. Within another week you will be feeling like King Kong!!
anotherbutters
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Have you been to see a chiro for you back? He (or she if you're lucky) might be able to point something out that you hadn't noticed/considered.
Guinness5.0
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Not yet but I will. It may take care of itself. Read on...anotherbutters said:
Guinness5.0
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Week 4 - MONDAY
Deload day. It went very well.
Squat 135x10x2, 225x5, 275x3, 315x3, 335x3, 355x3, 275x8
-OK so it's not MC2's textbook deload of cutting volume and leaving the intensity up, but this is a unique situation in that I needed to iron out my form. I'm very pleased as there was a marked improvement in the feel of the movement. I made less of a point of holding the arch as tight and pronounced as possible (which I did Friday) and was just careful not to round. Now I know what hamstring/glute stretch reflex really feels like
-It's strange - I figured since I was rounding my back in the hole, I must have a very strong low back in order to get moving. It seems the eopposite is true - that maybe rounding is a cop-out and my hips/legs take up the slack of my 'lazy' lumbar region. My back was tired quickly by this (not in pain, it was just the most fatigued part of my post. chain). The fact that I'm in the neighborhood of my previous work weights is a plus. Hopefully the tren will get my back up to speed w/out any vertebrae zinging across the gym and lodging into unsuspecting cardio bunnies
Bench windmills, 135x15, 185x5, 225x5, 265x3, 280x1, 300x3
-Cake. Totally cake. I had a spotter for the last set and he seemed a little confused that I stopped at 3
Power clean135x5, 185x3, 205x3, 225x3, 245x1x2 (PR's)
-first single w/ 245 was solid, second may have been a little out from my torso - not sure.
Close grip bench 135x?, 185x5, 225x8, 255x8, 275xx7
-How weird is this? I'm not sure that I can bench 275 7 times w/ a 'normal' width grip, but I had another rep when I stopped the set w/ 275. I had planned to use 225 throughout but it was a joke. Then 255 was a joke. So I said 'what the hell'. BTW my previous best CGBP was 300x5 (about a month before I even heard of 5x5, so it could have gotten better had I emphasized it), so I'm stronger on these than reg. bench. How funny would it be to enter a raw PL meet and do CGBP :frlol:
DB curls 50's, 2 sets of 8 per arm
CoC #1 5 triples w/ each hand
-Hmmm... this isn't getting any easier
Hanging leg raises BWx15x3
Stretched too. All in all this was just what I needed after a miserable Friday workout. It'd been so long since I had a bad one that I was just miserable about it. I overestimated how quickly the gear would hit - I got to thinking and last cycle I was not only running double the dose of both compounds, but I frontloaded the prop as well w/ 200mg/day for 4 days. That's why I was feelin' like superman by week 2 IMO.
Also, my deadlift buddy is pulling on Thurs so I'm gonna get in w/ him. Perfect timing.
Deload day. It went very well.
Squat 135x10x2, 225x5, 275x3, 315x3, 335x3, 355x3, 275x8
-OK so it's not MC2's textbook deload of cutting volume and leaving the intensity up, but this is a unique situation in that I needed to iron out my form. I'm very pleased as there was a marked improvement in the feel of the movement. I made less of a point of holding the arch as tight and pronounced as possible (which I did Friday) and was just careful not to round. Now I know what hamstring/glute stretch reflex really feels like
-It's strange - I figured since I was rounding my back in the hole, I must have a very strong low back in order to get moving. It seems the eopposite is true - that maybe rounding is a cop-out and my hips/legs take up the slack of my 'lazy' lumbar region. My back was tired quickly by this (not in pain, it was just the most fatigued part of my post. chain). The fact that I'm in the neighborhood of my previous work weights is a plus. Hopefully the tren will get my back up to speed w/out any vertebrae zinging across the gym and lodging into unsuspecting cardio bunnies
Bench windmills, 135x15, 185x5, 225x5, 265x3, 280x1, 300x3
-Cake. Totally cake. I had a spotter for the last set and he seemed a little confused that I stopped at 3
Power clean135x5, 185x3, 205x3, 225x3, 245x1x2 (PR's)
-first single w/ 245 was solid, second may have been a little out from my torso - not sure.
Close grip bench 135x?, 185x5, 225x8, 255x8, 275xx7
-How weird is this? I'm not sure that I can bench 275 7 times w/ a 'normal' width grip, but I had another rep when I stopped the set w/ 275. I had planned to use 225 throughout but it was a joke. Then 255 was a joke. So I said 'what the hell'. BTW my previous best CGBP was 300x5 (about a month before I even heard of 5x5, so it could have gotten better had I emphasized it), so I'm stronger on these than reg. bench. How funny would it be to enter a raw PL meet and do CGBP :frlol:
DB curls 50's, 2 sets of 8 per arm
CoC #1 5 triples w/ each hand
-Hmmm... this isn't getting any easier
Hanging leg raises BWx15x3
Stretched too. All in all this was just what I needed after a miserable Friday workout. It'd been so long since I had a bad one that I was just miserable about it. I overestimated how quickly the gear would hit - I got to thinking and last cycle I was not only running double the dose of both compounds, but I frontloaded the prop as well w/ 200mg/day for 4 days. That's why I was feelin' like superman by week 2 IMO.
Also, my deadlift buddy is pulling on Thurs so I'm gonna get in w/ him. Perfect timing.
Cynical Simian
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Good times. Glad to hear the squat form change and workout as a whole went well.
I suppose I'll preempt Phaded and remind you that we're eagerly awaiting a video of your new and improved squat.
I suppose I'll preempt Phaded and remind you that we're eagerly awaiting a video of your new and improved squat.
Jim Ouini
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Good to hear that you're back on track.
I had a PL friend like that, his preferred grip was CG. I saw him do 500+ like that pretty easy. One day he came in practicing his 'new technique' which was basically just a normal grip. Don't know the results though.
Guinness5.0 said:
I had a PL friend like that, his preferred grip was CG. I saw him do 500+ like that pretty easy. One day he came in practicing his 'new technique' which was basically just a normal grip. Don't know the results though.
Guinness5.0
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Week 4 - TUESDAY
This was supposed to be a cardio/stretch day, but I locked up three treadmills again trying to do HIIT and decided that pressing on was futile (there isn't enough money in the world to get me on a treadmill for 45 minutes of moderate walking
).
So here's what happened instead
Farmer's walk 100 lb DB's, 4 walks of 50 yards each (give or take)
-Pretty nifty grip workout. Got me huffin' and puffin' a bit by the third one.
I had trouble coming up w/ another GPP-type of exercise, so I just did some...
Clean and press 135x3x5, 185x3x2
-Did 'em rapid fire w/ like 30 seconds rest. Really got the blood flowing and the sweat pouring. On my final set w/ 185 I transitioned into front squats for the hell of it. They felt good so I did some more...
Front squat 185x5, 205x5, 225x3, 255x3 (PR), 275x3 (PR), 295x1x2(PR), 315x1 (PR), 275x2, 315x1 (better form - full pause in the hole)
-Pretty wild. I had a guy that knew his shit watch me on the first attempt w/ 315. He said it was good but a tad bouncy. So I lightened up, paused on the next ones, and realized that I could hit 315 w/ a pause. I almost did a double but the session was getting out of hand as it was. This was to be a cardio day when I walked in the gym
Push press 185x3, 205x3x2 (PR), 225x2x2(PR), backoff w/ 135x5 (strict OHP)
-Hells fuggin' yeah. Felt like a goddman animal on these. They were all fast, explosive, and locked out at the top.
I played around w/ overhead squats but I figured that I'd done enough already. Besides, I was having trouble w/ 95 pounds. I should have my Oly shoes by Christmas (ordered 'em from glennpendlay Friday I think) so these will be good to learn w/ proper footwear. BTW during this entire workout I was wearing New Balance running shoes. Can't wait to do fronts again in Oly shoes. Next workout will be Thursday w/ my 'form coach' - DL's on the menu. I'll be careful but I don't see why a big fat PR would be out of the question.
This was supposed to be a cardio/stretch day, but I locked up three treadmills again trying to do HIIT and decided that pressing on was futile (there isn't enough money in the world to get me on a treadmill for 45 minutes of moderate walking
).So here's what happened instead
Farmer's walk 100 lb DB's, 4 walks of 50 yards each (give or take)
-Pretty nifty grip workout. Got me huffin' and puffin' a bit by the third one.
I had trouble coming up w/ another GPP-type of exercise, so I just did some...
Clean and press 135x3x5, 185x3x2
-Did 'em rapid fire w/ like 30 seconds rest. Really got the blood flowing and the sweat pouring. On my final set w/ 185 I transitioned into front squats for the hell of it. They felt good so I did some more...
Front squat 185x5, 205x5, 225x3, 255x3 (PR), 275x3 (PR), 295x1x2(PR), 315x1 (PR), 275x2, 315x1 (better form - full pause in the hole)
-Pretty wild. I had a guy that knew his shit watch me on the first attempt w/ 315. He said it was good but a tad bouncy. So I lightened up, paused on the next ones, and realized that I could hit 315 w/ a pause. I almost did a double but the session was getting out of hand as it was. This was to be a cardio day when I walked in the gym
Push press 185x3, 205x3x2 (PR), 225x2x2(PR), backoff w/ 135x5 (strict OHP)
-Hells fuggin' yeah. Felt like a goddman animal on these. They were all fast, explosive, and locked out at the top.
I played around w/ overhead squats but I figured that I'd done enough already. Besides, I was having trouble w/ 95 pounds. I should have my Oly shoes by Christmas (ordered 'em from glennpendlay Friday I think) so these will be good to learn w/ proper footwear. BTW during this entire workout I was wearing New Balance running shoes. Can't wait to do fronts again in Oly shoes
. Next workout will be Thursday w/ my 'form coach' - DL's on the menu. I'll be careful but I don't see why a big fat PR would be out of the question.
Cynical Simian
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Well, you pretty much already independently derived this, but... http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/par37.htm
Transitioning into squats as you did is also something I've heard of people doing to make it even more of a full-body exercise.
Now you have no excuse not to do cardio.
Transitioning into squats as you did is also something I've heard of people doing to make it even more of a full-body exercise.
Now you have no excuse not to do cardio.
