Pre-bedtime?

[ESQ]

IVE BEEN EATING EITHER COTTAGE CHEESE OR SLICED DELI TURKEY BEFORE BED,WONDERING IF THOSE ARE GOOD CHOICES OR IS THERE SOMETHING BETTER.I'M TRYIN TO PUT ON A LIITLE MASS BUT DONT WANT CARBS LATE NIGHT. ANY INFO WOULD BE GREAT.

 

[blood_drinker]

You want something SLOW absorbing before bed. Slow absorbing would mean low gi carbs (brown rice, oats, etc.) but since you do not want those and want some protein - avoid whey like the plague. Use casein (in cottage cheese) or something like tuna and mayo. If you combine fats it will also slow absorption. Watch the lactose in the cottage cheese though - it's a carb too (although low gi).

200g has 7,8 carbs (danone cottage cheese).

 

[Stiffler]

I use proteinfactorys bed time protein drink works good.

 

[MarkFlC5]

You want something SLOW absorbing before bed. Slow absorbing would mean low gi carbs (brown rice, oats, etc.) but since you do not want those and want some protein - avoid whey like the plague. Use casein (in cottage cheese) or something like tuna and mayo. If you combine fats it will also slow absorption. Watch the lactose in the cottage cheese though - it's a carb too (although low gi).

200g has 7,8 carbs (danone cottage cheese).

Why avoid whey before bed, because its faster absorbing? And I'll guess on the "No Carb Before Bed issue" you don't want glycogen stores for morning workouts so you can burn fat, right (I don't agree with this btw, but i'm just trying to make sure that everyone is avoidng carbs before bed for the same reason)?

 

[blood_drinker]

1) yeah because its fast absorbing thus less chance you wake up hungry in the middle of the night and cannot eat.

2) yes because of glycogen depleteion, which theoretically makes it easier for morning cardio to tap into fat stores. PLEASE dont bring up that endless debate.

 

[MarkFlC5]

yes because of glycogen depleteion, which theoretically makes it easier for morning cardio to tap into fat stores.

hmmm . . no comment.

 

[blood_drinker]

please, do comment.
i know it's theoretical, but in my experience and that of many others, it works.

 

[MarkFlC5]

please, do comment.
i know it's theoretical, but in my experience and that of many others, it works.

Lots of things work, at least for a while, some longer for others.

But I never look at fat loss in terms of a day. If you are competing or preparing for a contest, then maybe you have to do this every now and then.

Personally, I always focus on the big picture. When you look at the big picture, you tend not to split hairs, getting caught up with "Am I burning FAT or Glycogen right now?" The BIG picture says, "I'm burning neither one of these - I'm burning calories, period.

The big picure means measuring waist lines every 2-3 weeks instead of every 4-5 days resulting in emotional attachment which can be psychologically damaging. You train like a machine without the emotions. Shit, if measurements are not down in 2 weeks or strength is not up, you make adjustments or you wait another week or 2.

The big Picture doesn't involve a scale every 3-4 days day but perhaps at 2-3 week intervals to make sure you are on the path to your goal(s) or at the very least not deviating from the path.

Finally, it means that you have confidence that everything will come out in the wash as long as you are training hard and following procedures to lower bodyfat (if thats your goal) making periodic adjustments accordingly.

Just my .02.

 

[blood_drinker]

I agree with the long term views. However, I don't agree with

"I'm burning neither one of these - I'm burning calories, period.

At least for me - that is not my goal. The whole issue behind all these glycogen or fat debates is because us bodybuilders are really concerned about keeping our hard earned lbm during cutting phases. Burning cals does equate to fat loss, but without proper manipulation of diet and exercise it will result in lbm loss.
But overall, i think we agree.

 

[diamonddiceclay]

turkey is excellent before bed-it helps you sleep

 

[MarkFlC5]

Burning cals does equate to fat loss, but without proper manipulation of diet and exercise it will result in lbm loss.
But overall, i think we agree. [/B]

Whereas my goal is to reduce bodyfat with a calorie deficit via excercise, my diet is very strict. There are things that I do follow and value the importance of, such as large post-workut meals. And wheeras I normally avoid sugar, this is the only time I introduce the simple sugars. Also, every 14 days I have a cheat day where I stuff my face with ice cream, pizza, etc.

But my feeling is if you are eating often, say 4-5 good balanced meals per day, the metabolism should be ok. Every now and then I change the ratios (40-30-30 or 60-30-10) or do something crazy just to break the monotony or to to fool the body but I'm not all that sure even that matters. As long as you aren't getting these 1 or 2 meal a day jobs for a long period of time, I think most will be ok. But once again, I understand that competitors have to look for that edge wherever they can find it and if it works for you, then ignoring the body's response would be foolish.

As Far as BMR or LBM, The only thing I've known to to affect mine is age - period. 15 years ago, I could eat 1 meal a day, 10 meals a day, get plastered on weekends, whatever and I always had around 7-8 % bodyfat. But nowadays, my friends laugh at me saying "Welcome to the Club," or stupid shit like "whats the matter Mark, haven't been doing those situps lately?" So I my only recourse is to add more activity into my life. Age obviously affetcs LBM with HGH and Testesterone levels dropping. I think 40 or a little older for some is when LBM is really hard to keep. I saw Arnold recently - he looks like a totally different person than he did even when he did the Terminator movie.

 

[Will B.Huge]

Canned clams are my favorite bedtime snack, high in protein and very tasty.