Postworkout timing???

[JKurz1]

I'm slated to be on a schedule where my pw shake comes as soon as I finish training of whey, dextrose and pie filling. 1 scoop whey, 50g of each carb source. Then within that "magic window of 45 minutes, I kick in another scoop of whey, another 50g of dext, and drop the pie filling for a cup of oats. Then one hour later, I have a good size meal of a meat with a little more fats (dozen eggs, using 2-3 yolks, or salmon and chicken etc.) and 2 cups of rice. THEN..........I have a boatload of almonds/walnuts with a cup of cottage cheese and a casein shake as I crawl into bed. Long story short, what do you think about this magical approach for someone trying to put on some lean mass, at 6'2, 170lbs? Time frame from the time I drop the last set weight till the time I climb into bed in 6pm - 930/10pm.........thoughts?

 

[OMEGA]

I woudl stay away from ADDING fats in that window of opportunity

just go with Whey Isolate and some form of Carb
always like a mega shake, like 75 grams of Protien with 75 grams of carbs.
consider added Glutamine peptides to the mix
and leucine as well

 

[JKurz1]

i know bro...it's more like 90 minutes........the wndow is a little weary anyway.....30-45 is definate, up to an hour is a gray area

 

[JKurz1]

Too many cals in such a short time???

 

[OMEGA]

depends on your metabolism and goals

 

[JKurz1]

very very slow metabolism, goal is a severe cut.....

 

[Lifterforlife]

i know bro...it's more like 90 minutes........the wndow is a little weary anyway.....30-45 is definate, up to an hour is a gray area

Yeah man, that window slams closed at 45 minutes exactly!

No fats till after that! Geez....

This dam window thinng is such a crock. I myself, and folks I have competed with and been associated with in gyms for the last 10 yrs. have been doing this(found this "window" out back in 96 from Paul Cribb I believe over at AST). Anyway, I see noone getting huge from doing this, in fact, no noticeable difference from going home, having a large glass of milk(full fat if bulking, eating a steak and baked potato.

The window..."the horror, the horror".

Elliot TA et. al. Milk ingestion stimulates net muscle protein synthesis following resistance exercise. Med Sci Sports Exerc. (2006) 38(4):667-74.

PURPOSE: Previous studies have examined the response of muscle protein to resistance exercise and nutrient ingestion. Net muscle protein synthesis results from the combination of resistance exercise and amino acid intake. No study has examined the response of muscle protein to ingestion of protein in the context of a food. This study was designed to determine the response of net muscle protein balance following resistance exercise to ingestion of nutrients as components of milk. METHOD: Three groups of volunteers ingested one of three milk drinks each: 237 g of fat-free milk (FM), 237 g of whole milk (WM), and 393 g of fat-free milk isocaloric with the WM (IM). Milk was ingested 1 h following a leg resistance exercise routine. Net muscle protein balance was determined by measuring amino acid balance across the leg. RESULTS: Arterial concentrations of representative amino acids increased in response to milk ingestion. Threonine balance and phenylalanine balance were both > 0 following milk ingestion. Net amino acid uptake for threonine was 2.8-fold greater (P < 0.05) for WM than for FM. Mean uptake of phenylalanine was 80 and 85% greater for WM and IM, respectively, than for FM, but not statistically different. Threonine uptake relative to ingested was significantly (P < 0.05) higher for WM (21 +/- 6%) than FM (11 +/- 5%), but not IM (12 +/- 3%). Mean phenylalanine uptake/ingested also was greatest for WM, but not significantly. CONCLUSIONS: Ingestion of milk following resistance exercise results in phenylalanine and threonine uptake, representative of net muscle protein synthesis. These results suggest that whole milk may have increased utilization of available amino acids for protein synthesis.

Old timers have known this for years...and some vindication here.