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PCT and Wait time after last shot

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qZanity

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Okay so I'm currently on week 13 of the cycle below. As you can see I stopped test e, now I'm starting test-p. Right after I'm done with the test p, (week 14) should I start pct right away? Or wait? Cause I knew test p is a short ester which is why I run it now.

Also does my pct look okay?

1-4 prop 150eod
1-12 test e 600/split
13-14 prop taper....150.....100 eod
1-14 provi 25Mg/day
5-10 75mg Anavar ED

Pct.....
Clomid 100....100....50...50
Nolva 20....20...10...10
Aromasin 6.25 Ed
Ostarine 12.5mg ED

Thanks
 
I would wait a week, then start PCT. You will still have some long esters from the Test E still clearing, and it will take several days for the prop to clear. You have nothing in your PCT to boost test. The SERMS only stimulate LH and it is temporary. It will not help you for recovery once you come off of it. I suggest running a Test a Stack 17 in your PCT. It's the best OTC booster you will find with 12 ingredients, and with the discount codes I have it's priced very well for what you are getting

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You definitely want to add some natty test boosters bro.

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Thanks guys.

At what dosage and how long should I run these natty test boosters?

They obviously aren't suppressive then?
 
Thanks rick.

So what would be the better choice for pct. baring in mind I ran HCG throughout cycle.

Test stack or the ntbm products.. Although the unleashed/post cycle is out of stock.

Is test stack actually that effective? And when you said wait one week and start pct.. One week from when? My last test p shot?

Cheers
 
need help! mass and strenght cycle

I am ready to do a 12 week cycle. I am looking for a mass and strenght cycle. What is a good one for a semi beginner and a good pct afterwards. I have used deca, winstrol, and stanzanol in my last 12 week cycle. Liked what i was getting, but was not truly impressed. Thanks
 
Re: need help! mass and strenght cycle

windycitykid said:
I am ready to do a 12 week cycle. I am looking for a mass and strenght cycle. What is a good one for a semi beginner and a good pct afterwards. I have used deca, winstrol, and stanzanol in my last 12 week cycle. Liked what i was getting, but was not truly impressed. Thanks
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Start your own thread bro
 
need help! mass and strenght cycle

I am ready to do a 12 week cycle. I am looking for a mass and strenght cycle. What is a good one for a semi beginner and a good pct afterwards. I have used deca, winstrol, and stanzanol in my last 12 week cycle. Liked what i was getting, but was not truly impressed. Thanks
 
Re: need help! mass and strenght cycle

windycitykid said:
I am ready to do a 12 week cycle. I am looking for a mass and strenght cycle. What is a good one for a semi beginner and a good pct afterwards. I have used deca, winstrol, and stanzanol in my last 12 week cycle. Liked what i was getting, but was not truly impressed. Thanks
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Start a new thread bro

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Re: need help! mass and strenght cycle

windycitykid said:
I am ready to do a 12 week cycle. I am looking for a mass and strenght cycle. What is a good one for a semi beginner and a good pct afterwards. I have used deca, winstrol, and stanzanol in my last 12 week cycle. Liked what i was getting, but was not truly impressed. Thanks
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Do not post in here again. If you want answers stop hijacking ng somebody else's thread and start your own
 
Hiver13 said:
Really ? It is possible to recover, then crash ? Because it is exactly what happened with my deca PCT and it would explain a lot.
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Most guys do a 4 week PCT whoch isnt long enough. You cant expect to recover in 4 weeks with 10-20 week cycle. Also you need more then just a serm. You need powerfull natty test boosters

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@shrine1 @rick

How does this PCT look?

Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Aromasin 12.5mg ED
Ostarine 12.5mg ED
Test stack 17 2 caps ED

Would also like to carry in osta as a bridge for another 6-8 weeks after pct. Would this be a bad idea?

Also should I extend it to 5 or 6 weeks? If so what dosages?
 
qZanity said:
@shrine1 @rick

How does this PCT look?

Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Aromasin 12.5mg ED
Ostarine 12.5mg ED
Test stack 17 2 caps ED

Would also like to carry in osta as a bridge for another 6-8 weeks after pct. Would this be a bad idea?

Also should I extend it to 5 or 6 weeks? If so what dosages?
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You are on the right track, but you really don't need both SERMS in there. I would do Clomid only, and your dose is too high. 50/50/25/25 is what I recommend. Aromasin should be 12.5mg EOD, and not ED. You don't want to kill your estrogen post cycle. Just control it. Running Ostarine throughout your PCT and a few weeks afterwards is also fine. Your PCT should look like this:

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I would add HCGenerate too, it contains a powerfull plant extract that stmulate the LH, and LH is what you want back during the PCT.
 
I'm of the thinking that there's no reason to wait and becoem more supressed -- start PCT at the end of the cycle while there's still more exogenous T in you.

Also, Ostarine does not help in recovery. People will argure that it's "not THAT suppresssive", but that's not PCT is about. You're supposed to be fighting suppression , not adding it.

UNLEASHED and protein Factory POSTCYCLE are the proven winners. Test stack is a good add on too though more expensive , but with UNLEASHED you'll know the exact dosages you're getting. That's what works.
 
So Nelson for you Ostarine is a bad choice during PCT ? Because it is suppressive for the HPTA and can make the recovery harder ?
Isnt it possible to avoid that with a lower dose ?
 
You will get a lot of varying answers on PCT protocols on this board, but I am a strong supporter of Ostarine in PCT. As long as you have a good PCT stack for recovery (like the one I posted), ostarine will not hinder it and only help.

I also would never advise starting PCT immediately coming off of long esters. The only thing I would run during that time is HCG to kickstart PCT for its LH stimulation.

If you start PCT too early while a large amount of exogenous hormones are in your body, recovery is impossible because those hormones will keep you shutdown. The second thing is if you start PCT too soon, you end too soon when recovery isnt complete...so you end up not even recovering at all
 
RickRock13 said:
You will get a lot of varying answers on PCT protocols on this board, but I am a strong supporter of Ostarine in PCT. As long as you have a good PCT stack for recovery (like the one I posted), ostarine will not hinder it and only help.

I also would never advise starting PCT immediately coming off of long esters. The only thing I would run during that time is HCG to kickstart PCT for its LH stimulation.

If you start PCT too early while a large amount of exogenous hormones are in your body, recovery is impossible because those hormones will keep you shutdown. The second thing is if you start PCT too soon, you end too soon when recovery isnt complete...so you end up not even recovering at all
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Thanks all.

Rick, I ordered the test stack.

So when should I start this PCT? I stopped test e on the 19th, currently on a prop taper until the 5th of March. Should I wait like 3 days after I come off the test prop then start. PCT? That means it will be 19 days since the last long ester (test enan)

Is it worth adding hcgnerate in there too? I'm a fan of osta too cause last time I recovered well..

Cheers bro
 
I have had plenty of blood done and Ostarine in PCT is fine. As long as you run hcgenerate along side of your test you will be fine

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