Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Yeah maybe I should get some 25 gauge needles, I didn't however have any pain while the injection, but only hours later and the next morning. I also read that the higher the pin gauge the less PIP? I might've injected into a vein and it is hard to tell because forgot to aspirate (dumb mistake), but yeah today I will inject in my left glute, I just hope not to have the pain I did in the right otherwise I won't be able to sit or sleep on either side...lol
pain from first pin of test e
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Yeah maybe I should get some 25 gauge needles, I didn't however have any pain while the injection, but only hours later and the next morning. I also read that the higher the pin gauge the less PIP? I might've injected into a vein and it is hard to tell because forgot to aspirate (dumb mistake), but yeah today I will inject in my left glute, I just hope not to have the pain I did in the right otherwise I won't be able to sit or sleep on either side...lol
Yes stevesmi, I am hoping for that too, today is the 3rd day and it hasn't got anymore red, now I had this pimple on my right glute so I actually sat in a hot tub yesterday with some epsom salts, a little better and the pain is a little better today, I think the pain is a combination of the stupid pimple and first time injection right above it and also the redness because of it maybe. Just trying to decide which site to inject today, should I pin my other glute and risk not being able to sit properly because of the existing pain in my right glute or should I pin my shoulder and maybe risk working out my chest on Sunday...man decisions decisions....
Thanks CD, isn't it the less the gauge (so 23 or 21) the less PIP? Or is it the other way around? I read about the warming of the oil and massaging the area. What do you recommend, dipping the test e vial a little into warm water for a couple of minutes? Also when you say massaging the area, should I massage with just my palm after the injection is made? Also can I put some ice before injecting to numb the area for less pain especially in the shoulder and then wipe it with some isopropyl alcohol and then inject?
aspirating has no affect on if you have PIP or not.
next time do more research on pinning, you seem to have zero understanding about.. there are hundreds of youtube vids that show you how to pin and what to look for etc.
i get PIP everytime i inject prop or even ace. primo gives me horrible PIP. even the most gentle steroid can give you PIP. some guys get it more than others. but yeah its definately a case of a virgin muscle and too much shaking.. you are sticking a piece of metal through a muscle then putting in oil so the muscle of course is not gonna appreciate that
and you can try every trick in the book.. ice it, heat it, baths.. blah blah blah. it won't do very much. it might help a little but there is no magic cure for PIP. just like there is no magic cure for muscle soreness.. just gotta deal with it until it goes away.
next time do more research on pinning, you seem to have zero understanding about.. there are hundreds of youtube vids that show you how to pin and what to look for etc.
i get PIP everytime i inject prop or even ace. primo gives me horrible PIP. even the most gentle steroid can give you PIP. some guys get it more than others. but yeah its definately a case of a virgin muscle and too much shaking.. you are sticking a piece of metal through a muscle then putting in oil so the muscle of course is not gonna appreciate that
and you can try every trick in the book.. ice it, heat it, baths.. blah blah blah. it won't do very much. it might help a little but there is no magic cure for PIP. just like there is no magic cure for muscle soreness.. just gotta deal with it until it goes away.
MaxxReps
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I pin in my quads and first time had me limping for a couple of days. Next ones were much better and now there is no post injection pain (PIP). I think I did hit a vein though once and the pain from that was easily 2x the pain from the virgin muscle pin.
Your other glute may be just as sore but best get it over with.
Your other glute may be just as sore but best get it over with.
^^^ its easy to hit veins when you go into the quads.. too many guys inject at a bad angle or inject too low on the leg. i used to do that when i was a newb, i learned my lesson fast though. draw a cross on your leg from your knee to your thigh and then pin the outer upper quadrant of the cross. that gives you the best chance to avoid veins
I wouldn't say I have zero understanding otherwise I wouldn't of pinned in the first place, mind you I did not aspirate and that is a big f*&k up...but I am not solely saying that not aspirating is what exactly caused this as of course it is a virgin muscle and already have a pimple on my ass which is painful. I've seen many vids on youtube, trust me...and not aspirating can be bad of course as at the time I did not do it and maybe as people have said on here I might've hit a vein, but I believe it is because a combination of stuff, I just got a little more worried because there was a little bit of redness underneath but not at the injection site., that is the only reason I was worried, that's it... I'm just gonna man up and continue to inject in my other glute tonight, from your experience would you recommend just do it in the other glute or should I do it in my shoulder or quad for my 2nd pin?
bonacris
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You will get mixed opinions on aspirating.. some always do it and so.e never do it.. I've never seen a doctor aspirate when giving a shot
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That's true...but then again I'm no doctor...lol
So last night was my 2nd pin in my left glute, took all the precautions, heated the vial a little, wiped the entire glute area pretty much with the alcohol pad and the vial. Also aspirated this time, had my wife do it again for me, unfortunately all was going well but all of a sudden after the injection was in for like 7-8 seconds I started feeling nauseous and having a slight blackout (very slight), started sweating then after the injection was out, I had to put my head down on the sofa but then got better in like a minute. rubbed the area thoroughly and also after a little while used some heating pad. This morning the pain is minimal, it is there but no where near the first pin. Honestly after the negative symptoms I had I felt like forget this I will stop my cycle now, but then I was like no it's okay. My question is even though the aspiration was done correctly there wasn't any blood but a few bubbles, did this happen because a possible nerve was still hit even though no blood came while aspirating?
