Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I know all about overtraining and shit, but I was wondering can you over train doing cardio. I know that alot of cardio will lead to the burning of some muscle along with fat but besides this is there really anything bad that will come from doing cardio 7 days a week and possably twice a day maybe 3-4 time a week.
Overdoing Cardio??
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quartermiler
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It would depend on how many miles you run or what kind of cardio you do... During track season my friends run close to 70 miles a week... I am a sprinter so I only run about 20... If you do the SAME carido, everyday, twice a day then it would be bad... Do intervals one day, Short sprints another, a road run the next day, then maybe swim... shit like that.. I would change it up... So to answer your question(s), Yes you can over train cardio in my opinion but only if your doing the same exercise everyday twice a day... change it up and youll be fine... thats my 2 cents
quartermiler
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Dont run? Solid... Next time wear a heart rate monitor and tell me what your heartrate is when you WALK...
Silent Method
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Excessive cardio will eat muscle tissue. Excessive cardio without recovery intervals will lead to overtraining and speed up lean tissue loss.
So what's "excessive cardio?" This depends on your genetics, your level of training and prior adaptation, you diet, the intensity of your runs, the duration of your runs, the frequency of your runs, the duration of the schedule, etc.
Unless your a top level competitive runner at a training peak, running 8 miles twice a day 7 days a week is excessive. On the other hand, two 10 minute light joggs a day every day is not going to kill you. The best approach is to periodize your cardio training, utilizing various training volume, intensity, duration, and of course making sure you get ample recovery time.
BTW, I think the blanket advice "don't run" is pure crap. There are without a doubt times in a competitive bb's training where he or she should not run. However,for the rest of us, in the name of good health, some form of vigourous cardio (besides resistance training) should be practiced. Now, "don't run as your sole means of altering bodyfat composition" is a statment I can live with.
So what's "excessive cardio?" This depends on your genetics, your level of training and prior adaptation, you diet, the intensity of your runs, the duration of your runs, the frequency of your runs, the duration of the schedule, etc.
Unless your a top level competitive runner at a training peak, running 8 miles twice a day 7 days a week is excessive. On the other hand, two 10 minute light joggs a day every day is not going to kill you. The best approach is to periodize your cardio training, utilizing various training volume, intensity, duration, and of course making sure you get ample recovery time.
BTW, I think the blanket advice "don't run" is pure crap. There are without a doubt times in a competitive bb's training where he or she should not run. However,for the rest of us, in the name of good health, some form of vigourous cardio (besides resistance training) should be practiced. Now, "don't run as your sole means of altering bodyfat composition" is a statment I can live with.
liquidmuscle
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i do cardio in the a.m. about 3 times a wk and i warm up by walking for 5 mins then run for 10 then walk for 5 then run for 10 so on and so on that shit has been working real good
Silent Method
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140!!! Jeeze, maybe you should stay away from running, your heart might explode!
Look, the duration of vigorous exercise such as fairly intense walking or running and its effect on your metabolism has much more to do with the your body using its own protein for fuel than the difference between an intense walk or jog. To get the same cardio and pulmonary benefit from walking that you'd get from jogging, you will need to walk for an exponentially greater duration.
If you like to walk thats great, keep it up. Just don't be so afraid of running.
Look, the duration of vigorous exercise such as fairly intense walking or running and its effect on your metabolism has much more to do with the your body using its own protein for fuel than the difference between an intense walk or jog. To get the same cardio and pulmonary benefit from walking that you'd get from jogging, you will need to walk for an exponentially greater duration.
If you like to walk thats great, keep it up. Just don't be so afraid of running.
SOLID
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running takes mass away from the legs- ever seen a long distance runner with massive legs?
I dare you to try my cardio - walking on a treadmil set at a 15% incline at 3.5mph and come back telling me it wasn't harder than running!!! It's hard and if your not used to it- your legs are going to be extremely sore the next day.
I dare you to try my cardio - walking on a treadmil set at a 15% incline at 3.5mph and come back telling me it wasn't harder than running!!! It's hard and if your not used to it- your legs are going to be extremely sore the next day.
JG1
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SM,
Right now I'm doing cardio 5-6 days a week, 30 minutes a session. 3 cardio days are postworkout, and I keep my heart rate at around 130bpm. The other two-three cardio days are first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, cept for 5g glutamine and 2 NYC caps. Would you suggest I run on these days and do a higher intensity cardio rather then the same 130bpm steady walk I usauly do? I'm looking for maximum fat loss.
Right now I'm doing cardio 5-6 days a week, 30 minutes a session. 3 cardio days are postworkout, and I keep my heart rate at around 130bpm. The other two-three cardio days are first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, cept for 5g glutamine and 2 NYC caps. Would you suggest I run on these days and do a higher intensity cardio rather then the same 130bpm steady walk I usauly do? I'm looking for maximum fat loss.
Silent Method
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I must add that I think cardio for the sole purpose of burning fat is a mistake. Sure, that last bit of rippage and striation is not going to pop out without utilizing cardio. Is that what were talking about here? Shooting for that last little bit of rippage? I doubt it. Cardio is for your heart and lungs. Diet is for fat loss. Yes, cardio can be a very effective tool along with diet to aid in fatloss. Don't fear the run.
Iwan2bsolid2, reread my post - the duration part. Yes, running can take mass away from the legs. "Ever seen a long distance runner with massive legs?" No. Whats your point? Did you read where I advocate distance running for those looking to preserve every last ounce of muscle tissue? I actually know exactly what 3.5mph at a 15% grade is. Harder than running? Uhh, just run at a harder intensity.
JG1, I'm not even prepared to give you recommendations on running for max fat loss, running is just such a personalized exercise based on your fitness level. I think diet comes first in that department. Besides, I'm making a stubborn point that running for your heart and lungs.
Iwan2bsolid2, reread my post - the duration part. Yes, running can take mass away from the legs. "Ever seen a long distance runner with massive legs?" No. Whats your point? Did you read where I advocate distance running for those looking to preserve every last ounce of muscle tissue? I actually know exactly what 3.5mph at a 15% grade is. Harder than running? Uhh, just run at a harder intensity.
JG1, I'm not even prepared to give you recommendations on running for max fat loss, running is just such a personalized exercise based on your fitness level. I think diet comes first in that department. Besides, I'm making a stubborn point that running for your heart and lungs.
SOLID
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I do agree with you on diet being important- however I think cardio is more important than most people think.
here is basically how I feel about this issue, I don't have time to write a long ass post basically I have the same view as this very knowledgeable bro from another board- this is his post and his opionion on cutting.
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Doggcrapp: I am under the opinion of "if it aint broke dont fix it"---meaning what you did training and protein wise to be a huge bodybuilder in the offseason will keep you being a huge bodybuilder in a contest. I like people to train heavy still (at a safe rep range) and keep their protein high (with low carbs at nite) and let the cardio and supplements take the fat off. Im sorry to be so simple but an hour of cardio in the morning upon arising 16 weeks out (# of weeks depending on your bodyfat) with whatever fat burning compound/s you want to use (usnic acid, ECA, or clen etc, etc) during the day is going to get you shredded. Severely changing your diet, panicking, being obsessive/compulsive with precontest cardio etc is the surefire way of coming in flat, catabolized and a shadow of what you should be up there. (I trained a guy a couple years back who wanted to compete ---he was a hard 287lbs and I told him he wasnt ready (he had just gotten up to 287lbs--I brought him up from the 240's...but I felt he needed to get some of his weaker bodyparts up--calves, more back width)--he wanted me to train him for the show but I refused and he was pissed. He went for it on his own and this guy was so obsessive compulsive he ate tuna or chicken and rice 4-5 times a day and cardio 2-3 times a day for 45 minutes to an hour for his whole precontest. He weighed in at 206lbs onstage (206!!!) he was 287 fairly hard in offseason. I shouldnt even have to say he got smoked--finishing 13th I believe out of 16 competitors. I feel if he had his head on straight he could of come in at 237 to 242lbs and done much better (still no calves)---I like to see people get inside out-- just nasty shredded 14 days out and cruise in
here is basically how I feel about this issue, I don't have time to write a long ass post basically I have the same view as this very knowledgeable bro from another board- this is his post and his opionion on cutting.
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Doggcrapp: I am under the opinion of "if it aint broke dont fix it"---meaning what you did training and protein wise to be a huge bodybuilder in the offseason will keep you being a huge bodybuilder in a contest. I like people to train heavy still (at a safe rep range) and keep their protein high (with low carbs at nite) and let the cardio and supplements take the fat off. Im sorry to be so simple but an hour of cardio in the morning upon arising 16 weeks out (# of weeks depending on your bodyfat) with whatever fat burning compound/s you want to use (usnic acid, ECA, or clen etc, etc) during the day is going to get you shredded. Severely changing your diet, panicking, being obsessive/compulsive with precontest cardio etc is the surefire way of coming in flat, catabolized and a shadow of what you should be up there. (I trained a guy a couple years back who wanted to compete ---he was a hard 287lbs and I told him he wasnt ready (he had just gotten up to 287lbs--I brought him up from the 240's...but I felt he needed to get some of his weaker bodyparts up--calves, more back width)--he wanted me to train him for the show but I refused and he was pissed. He went for it on his own and this guy was so obsessive compulsive he ate tuna or chicken and rice 4-5 times a day and cardio 2-3 times a day for 45 minutes to an hour for his whole precontest. He weighed in at 206lbs onstage (206!!!) he was 287 fairly hard in offseason. I shouldnt even have to say he got smoked--finishing 13th I believe out of 16 competitors. I feel if he had his head on straight he could of come in at 237 to 242lbs and done much better (still no calves)---I like to see people get inside out-- just nasty shredded 14 days out and cruise in
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