Oral only for MASS?? Some advice PLEASE

[italiabrat]

quite running, eat more, sleep more.. eat 4000 cals a day and no running or jogging period.

The thing is I am in the military, and my so called BOSS went crazy and makes us run for PT 5 days a week, but I am lifting heavy 6 days a week after work! It is hard to eat because I am always working so i rely on shakes, weight gainer (cyto gainer, true mass) for in-between-meals. I just got off a cycle of NOexplode which the new formal is a lot better than the first, but really only gave me a cracked out boost.

 

[italiabrat]

While I don't like the idea of an oral stack, you're probably going to run it either way. This being said, you can try 6 weeks with dianabol+anavar+clenbuterol+arimixed and use this PCT stack.

Week 1-6:
Dianabol 30mgs/day
Anavar 20mgs/day
Arimidex 0.25mgs ED

It's not an optimal cycle (oral only never optimal), but if you're doing to run something effective and fairly safe, I would go with this.

Along with the cycle you gave me, (thank you by the way!) as a PCT could I run nolva "during cycle" (what mg/day?) and liv 52 as a post treatment? I can't afford the PCT stack you posted

 

[bowly]

you probably burning more than you need to..try cutting the workouts to alternate days and see how it goes..having a shake at 6 am with vitamin c is good for cortisol control that mostly happen with ectos early morning..tbol var combo will give you tight retainable gains...but after the cycle you will say that it could have been better..

 

[italiabrat]

you probably burning more than you need to..try cutting the workouts to alternate days and see how it goes..having a shake at 6 am with vitamin c is good for cortisol control that mostly happen with ectos early morning..tbol var combo will give you tight retainable gains...but after the cycle you will say that it could have been better..

I understand, my first cycle a while ago was test/deca and had great gains. I am not expecting the same just a boost of maybe 10-15 lbs and good gains. I am stuck taking oral because of the location I am at.

 

[italiabrat]

Up

 

[mishuc2]

Hey, I'm running an oral only cycle tbol(60)+var(30) and get it from me, it HURTS, kidneys, liver, even stomach a bit, and this is on 10 pills of LIV 52 so trust me dude, if you are not a wuss like me, listen to the guys who say pin up and if your situation doesn't allow it since I take it you are in the army, just hold off on it a bit

 

[datamon]

4% bodyfat? How did you measure?

 

[ConanX]

4% bodyfat, 5'7, and 165lbs!? Damn bro, I should be taking advice from you! You must be rock solid...

My brother put on 20-something pounds without bloat or any gain in bodyfat using Beastdrol (aka superdrol) and Katanadrol (prohormone "tren", 4-chloro).

I used Beastdrol as a kickstart to my current cycle and so far I have gained 15lbs in 3 weeks. Bodyfat increased maybe 1% at the most, but I think I have less water retention.

I love Anavar but I don't know if it will give you the gains you the mass gains you want. Nothing gets me big like good old Testosterone. But if you can get a hold of Beastdrol, I recommend that. Some people have good success with Dianabol only cycles so you can always give that a try.

 

[skinsfan]

2 caps of tren-tfo and 2 caps of beastdrol everyday in the morning on an empty stomach. You won't be dissapointed.

 

[EZ_E]

Along with the cycle you gave me, (thank you by the way!) as a PCT could I run nolva "during cycle" (what mg/day?) and liv 52 as a post treatment? I can't afford the PCT stack you posted

PCT is every bit as important as the cycle. No PCT=No cycle....

Also, Liv52 should be run with an oral not after