Oral only for MASS?? Some advice PLEASE

[italiabrat]

I just want to say that genetics play a huge roll in ones mass gains! I unfortunately got the shit end of the stick with a very very fast metabolism. It has taking me FOREVER to get where I am at right now. I eat and eat and eat, I sleep pretty well (military affects this!) I have been training for about 3 years. I feel I look pretty good, but don't have it in me to get bigger than what I am with out a boost. My point is I am looking for an oral cycle for 6-8 weeks that will boost me over this hump. I did test cypioject with deca in high school to get me over my first hump and it worked very well for 8 weeks (kept about 75% of gains), but now I am stuck at 165 (walk-around-weight) 170 on a good day (more or less WATER) 4%bf @ 5'7" any help would be nice!

STATS:

22 Years old
165 lbs.
4-5% BF
5'7"
Shit genetics

Oral Cycle Only, stacked or not.

 

[eClenbuterol]

I just want to say that genetics play a huge roll in ones mass gains! I unfortunately got the shit end of the stick with a very very fast metabolism. It has taking me FOREVER to get where I am at right now. I eat and eat and eat, I sleep pretty well (military affects this!) I have been training for about 3 years. I feel I look pretty good, but don't have it in me to get bigger than what I am with out a boost. My point is I am looking for an oral cycle for 6-8 weeks that will boost me over this hump. I did test cypioject with deca in high school to get me over my first hump and it worked very well for 8 weeks (kept about 75% of gains), but now I am stuck at 165 (walk-around-weight) 170 on a good day (more or less WATER) 4%bf @ 5'7" any help would be nice!

STATS:

22 Years old
165 lbs.
4-5% BF
5'7"
Shit genetics

Oral Cycle Only, stacked or not.

While I don't like the idea of an oral stack, you're probably going to run it either way. This being said, you can try 6 weeks with dianabol+anavar+clenbuterol+arimixed and use this PCT stack.

Week 1-6:
Dianabol 30mgs/day
Anavar 20mgs/day
Arimidex 0.25mgs ED

It's not an optimal cycle (oral only never optimal), but if you're doing to run something effective and fairly safe, I would go with this.

 

[EZ_E]

Could be that there are other factors @ play here. Most of the time when someone thinks he is a "hard gainer" it's because diet and training are in dire need of work

What do you eat on a daily basis and how do you train?

~EZ

 

[Powerlifting57]

i feel your pain but oral only is a bad idea.

 

[empirebuilder]

Man bro 4-5 percent body fat now thats lean. I wouldnt be afraid to just run a six week cycle of d bol. Lots of guys do d bol for their first cycles. I know I did. If I could do it again I would have ran test with it.
EB

 

[2DIEZEL]

Common guys no d-bol only cycles. Most orals that put weight on you are just for kick starters and mainly water weight that you will loose when you come off.

 

[C.K.]

Common guys no d-bol only cycles. Most orals that put weight on you are just for kick starters and mainly water weight that you will loose when you come off.

I gained ten lbs on a 6 week winny ONLY cycle... just saying!

 

[informer112]

If you have shit genetics I recommend anavar with dbol or anavar with adrol for a mass cycle. You will get insane results.

 

[jstarr37]

quite running, eat more, sleep more.. eat 4000 cals a day and no running or jogging period.

 

[Powerlifting57]

I gained ten lbs on a 6 week winny ONLY cycle... just saying!

At what mg and were you drinking it or tabs?