I was one of those lucky women who never had pms symptoms until the last couple of years (2 kids and approaching 40) and now I can be such a b****h. Sometimes I tell my DH "if could leave myself I would". I am so snappish and snarky with my kids. I always feel better when I w/o. I recently changed my routine and it is much more intense. I was surprised when TOM showed up no clue, no bloating, no mood swings. The only clue was some mild sugar craving but nothing compared to the last couple of months. Although, this month I am under alot of stress and I am trying to really focus on eating clean so I have a feeling that I will be challenged to stay the course. jck