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OK, now THIS pisses me off....

Re: Re: Message from a black man

Quadsweep said:


That was awsome brother! Yes I am white but I still consider all men regardless of color brothers! Karma to you!

Quad

Thanks, I'm just not one to sit around, criticize, bitch and moan and not do anything about it. Fuck affirmative action; fuck welfare; fuck thinking I'm cool just cuz I'm black; AND FUCK SLAVE REPARATIONS. I'm a man who can do for himself... speaking of which, who wants to hook me up with a fat ass winter bulking cycle???
 
Re: Message from a black man

big4rt said:


"I don't mean to get off on a rant here, but" as a black man, I will tell you that you do have a point.
However, it's not about being perfect. Your country ever have any problems with racism?????? HMMMMMM. How about in the middle east???? HMMMMM. How about me telling you this: I would rather be here, malaria and aids free than "back in africa" where I'm told what religion to follow and who is to be my leader without a choice in the matter. I would rather be here with an equal chance to succeed or fail the same as everyone else. And although our laws in the US have changed since 1964 we didn't change everyone's attitudes--that's ok with me because their freedom to believe what they want is guaranteed the same as mine.
I've got friends who are white. I call them "dude". I've got friends who are black. I call them "dawg". I even have friends who are gay. We just don't watch porn together.... That's besides the point. The point is you criticize what you don't understand. You remind me of that european tennis player who said that Serena Williams (God, she is seXXXy) only gets endorsements because she is black. How in the fuck are you gonna say something like that when she is paid in US dollars by US companies and not be american? That's like my stupid ass walking into a physics class and try to tell the professor he's solving the problem ALL WRONG. Not mad at you, bro, but you can't speak french to a man who only understands spanish.
Now, I'm going downstairs to cook some collard greens, spaghetti, bratwurst, curry chicken with a kosher pickel on the side. WHY???? Because I fucking can!!!! :fro: :fro: :fro:

I forgot this was the aas discussion board, so let's make my post legit: So far I am on my third fina cycle with winny and test. I am actually steady at 210 looking solid and getting stronger. By the way, I did buy the winny and test out of mexico.:D


Karma to you. Good post. And yes Serena is one of the finest women (black or any color) on Earth!!!!
 
I saw this the other day and thought that it would add well to is discussion.





An Open Letter to Our Fathers and Grandfathers
You Won the Battle But Lost the War
By Aaron Zelman
Executive Director of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership
Fleet Marine Force Medic, Third Marine Air Wing, Vietnam Veteran

To our fathers and grandfathers who fought in World War II:

America owes everything to you. You sacrificed your youth, you saw your buddies die before your eyes, you gave up life and family and love as you fought in Europe or the Pacific -- all to save the world from fascism.

We can't even measure how much we owe you -- you, and the staunch women who stood with you -- the WACs, the Waves, the nurses who treated the wounded under unthinkable conditions, and the Rosie-the-Riveters who kept the country going back home. Yet, in the decades since the end of the war, your victory has been stolen. From you, from your children, your grandchildren, and from all of us.

You won a long, hard, painful battle. But when you came home, you lost the war. You lost the Bill of Rights and freedom. And so we all lost.

America is becoming a lot like the countries you fought against.

The country you fought for was a land of self-reliant people, people proud to stand on their own two feet. It was a country of decency, of neighbors and neighborhoods, where people took care of each other, their families and themselves. It was a country where citizens had a say in what their government did, a country where the government respected private property, family life, the right to worship, the right to express opinions without fear, the right to own firearms, and the whole way of life those freedoms stood for.

It wasn't perfect, but it was America.

The countries you fought against were rule-ridden bureaucracies where citizens did what they were told -- or else. They were countries where people were supposed to hate whomever the government wanted them to hate, and to love and trust the government more than they loved and trusted themselves. In these countries, children belonged more to the rulers than to their mothers and fathers, and private property was subject to control by bureaucrats. In these countries people didn't dare do or say anything the politicians didn't approve of.

Today in the United States there are people who spit on the memory of your sacrifices -- people like Sen. Charles Schumer, who successfully pushes "gun control" laws that trash the Second Amendment, and Sen. John McCain, whose infamous "campaign finance" law made free speech a federal crime for independent advocacy groups. We shrink before officials who decree that unpopular opinions are "hate speech." We endure leaders who tell us that it's wrong to hate certain groups of people, but perfectly okay for those groups to hate and malign others. Today much of America is controlled by people who'll fine us or even put us in prison for doing perfectly harmless things to our own land and homes.

Free speech. The right to keep and bear arms. Property rights. The right to live your daily life free of interference from people who want to push you around. Weren't these rights the very things you were fighting for?

The steady downhill slide

This process of destruction isn't new. You no sooner came home than the government you fought for started handing over power to the governments you defeated -- and even worse governments. They did it by handing authority to the United Nations, an organization dominated by unfree countries who don't share, or even have minimal respect for, the values that gave us the Bill of Rights. All they want is to take what they can get from us.

The U.N. quickly dragged us into another war in Korea - where many of you also suffered and died. Since then its powers have expanded so much that the U.N. has gained control over some U.S. lands (in the name of "biosphere sites," "world heritage protection," and "anti-desertification" treaties). Now they've even got a world court -- run from our own New York City, even though the impotent U.S. voted against it. This court can try American citizens and soldiers without giving them any of the constitutional protections you fought so hard for.

And next they're talking about imposing global taxes. On you. On what Tom Brokaw rightly called The Greatest Generation. And on us, your sometimes-less courageous successors.

The downhill slide has been steady: inflationary spending, debasement of the currency, punitive taxes, propagandizing of schoolchildren so they can't think for themselves, restrictions on property rights. Politicians have maneuvered to prop up the dangerously broken Social Security system, which Ronald Reagan rightly called an "intergenerational Ponzi scheme." They've created giveaway programs that let everyone from drug addicts to billionaire businessmen live off the sweat of ordinary working people. The regulations of this Nanny State have us so wrapped in bureaucratic red tape we can hardly move. And often we dare not express our honest opinions for fear of being labeled -- sometimes even punished -- for being a "hater," a "gun nut," or an "extremist" (which sometimes means nothing more than being an independent thinker).

Your federal government even passed a "gun-control" law (the Gun Control Act of 1968) based directly on the Nazi law that Sen. Thomas Dodd had the Library of Congress translate for him. This Nazi law was then signed by "Mr. Great Society," President Lyndon Johnson1

Did you risk your life fighting Hitler so that American politicians - some of whom you voted for and contributed money to -- could impose Hitler's very own laws on you? But that's exactly what happened -- and that was only the camel's nose under the tent when it came to "gun control."

Who's to blame?

Good Americans were once spirited, individualistic, independent, and skeptical of government power. Now, good Americans are a lot like the stereotypical "good Germans" of Hitler's day, compliant, docile, and worshipful of government.

This is largely our fault -- we of the Baby Boom and Generation X. We let you down. We, who in many cases knew nothing but comfort and security, weren't willing to sacrifice for freedom, as you did. Fat, happy, and lazy, we believed our government when it said it would take care of us, so we could remain children forever. We believed the slickly smiling politicians when they told us that if we just handed them enough power and money, they would eliminate every danger and make us as eternally content as sleeping babies in a nursery.

We chose to ignore the fact that this is the path to an all-powerful police state. We chose not to remember the historic truth that Ronald Reagan and many others have expressed: A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take it all away. Already we see the government rationing heath care -- rationing care to the very people it falsely and grandly promised to protect! How long before the old, the chronically ill, the "unfit" are decreed to be, as the Nazis put it, "useless eaters"?

Maybe you won't live to see the all-powerful state at its most cold and brutal. Will your children or your grandchildren be the ones to suffer?

It's a crime and a shame. It's un-American in the truest sense.

But when you cry, "Why are they doing this to my country?" at least part of the answer also has to be, "Well, where have you been all this time?"

Look in the mirror.

Your early life was tough, scarred by the hunger, insecurity, and national self-doubt of the Depression. You did your duty in a war that was longer and more brutal than anybody bargained for. When you came home, you were tired and just wanted -- perhaps for the first time since your childhood -- to live normally. And you deserved your peace.

But as Thomas Jefferson said, "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

The dirty little secret is that freedom wasn't stolen from us entirely by other people. We lost freedom ourselves because we weren't vigilant. We didn't exercise our rights or responsibilities as citizens -- we of the Baby Boom and Gen X, but also you, our fathers and grandfathers of World War II..

We went on voting for politicians who lied to us. We obeyed -- or maybe even enforced -- unconstitutional regulations. We had our hands out when politicians bought our freedom in exchange for subsidies, grants, and "entitlements." We tolerated, sometimes even cheered, violations of the Bill of Rights, as long as they were committed against people or groups we didn't like, not realizing the Bill protected our rights, too.

When every president since Richard Nixon told us we had to fight another war, a War on Drugs, we paid our taxes and cheered as millions of our fellow Americans went to prison, as no-knock midnight raids became an American institution, and as police forces were corrupted by the lure of illegal drugs and black-market money, just as they had earlier been corrupted during Prohibition. None of this has saved our children from drugs or made American streets safe. On the contrary, it's been one of the biggest destroyers of the Bill of Rights, and one of the biggest factors in increasing violence and police-state power in the U.S.

Even those of us who called ourselves conservative or libertarian often demanded that "there ought to be a law" against every activity we disliked. We forgot the very essence of freedom: The essence of freedom is leaving our fellow citizens, and the citizens of other countries, alone as long as they're not using force or fraud against others.

It's a fact -- though sometimes not a simple one to live with: If you want freedom you have to accept that, every day, millions of people might be doing things you don't personally approve of. You have to recognize that it isn't your right to stop them. That was what people came to America for. We hate it when others try to keep us from living our lives as we wish. But how often have we demanded laws to keep others from going about their own peaceable business?

Look in the mirror. We have met the enemy. And as Pogo said, "He is us."

It's time now for True Americans to act.

You World War II veterans, you World War II nurses, and you Korean War veterans ... you all have one last job to do in the fight for freedom. My fellow Vietnam veterans, this goes for you, too -- and for the young soldiers who fought in the Persian Gulf, Afghanistan, the Balkans, and Somalia. It goes for you, also, Rosie the Riveter.

You must teach the coming generations about what freedom really means. You must teach them it's not just having a lot of consumer goodies and fancy electronic toys. You must remind them that those pleasures are the product, not the heart, of free individual choices - and that those choices are protected by the Bill of Rights. You must remind them of the real meaning of the things you fought for -- the freedom of peaceful individuals to speak, believe, and live as they wish, unfettered by government dictates and punishments -- and to respect the right of others to do the same.

In fact, each and every one of us must do this if we want to restore and maintain freedom.

We must all live our personal lives like free men and women while we fight to restore the values of freedom to our country and our culture.

We must fight ALL enemies, foreign and domestic -- as you pledged to do when you signed on to serve your country. We must recognize that some of our most ruthless, implacable enemies ARE domestic -- men and women who look like us and talk like us but whose values are as foreign to America as those of any Hitler, Mussolini, or Hirohito. We must not allow ourselves also to become domestic enemies of freedom by supporting their policies.

America today seems a fallen land -- politically and economically powerful, but empty inside. A land that has lost its heart, its passion for freedom.

But freedom doesn't have to be gone forever. Many times in the past enemies made the mistake of thinking that America was lazy and complacent, too well-fed and self-satisfied to put up a good fight. The Japanese believed it before World War II. The terrorists believed it before September 11.

Our enemies have always been wrong.

You can never underestimate the fighting spirit of the American people, once they know that a fight is necessary to preserve their own future and their children's. An awakened America is a powerful thing, and dangerous to all opponents. We put aside our petty political differences, our daily pleasures, and our selfishness and we fight like wildcats.

There's hope for freedom -- if we can unite behind the Bill of Rights, unite behind freedom and individual rights. We must remember what the Bill of Rights is. It is a list of things an honest government -- a government that is truly of, by, and for the people -- is forever forbidden to do. And we must never ask our government to do these forbidden things, or stand by silently when it tries to.

To unite behind the Bill of Rights is to unite against crushing, bloated, grasping government power. This time our fight may not have to be with guns and cartridges. This time our weapons can be ideas and ideals. This time our job is to fight against the apathy and ignorance of our own culture. This time our aim is to arouse other Americans so they'll neither want nor tolerate an un-American government whose false promises of security are used to enslave them

Let us make forever sure that our American dead have not died in vain, that they have truly died for freedom. Let us live -- and cherish -- that freedom every day of our lives.
 
OK, now THIS pisses me off..

gainerxxl
Cool Novice



Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Germany
Posts: 236
Gender: queer

Your country and its false and hippocritical morals suck, that´s all

I habe Deutchland besuchen. Minen Grossvater hat Das Reich besuchen in seinem B17. Haben Sie etwas zu sagen? Wohen Sie in den East oder West? Sind sie eine große Socialist order Communist Schüft? Eine Grün? Ich leibe seine socialist Bundestag. Nein!


(I've been to Germany. My Grandfather visited The Thried Reich in his B17. Got anything else to say? Do you live in the east or the West? Ae you a grand socialist or a Communist Bastard? Green Party maybe? I love your socialist government. Not! )
 
Quadsweep said:

:mad: Sorry but that makes me wanna whip you ass. Our country is by far the best in the world, Envy of other countrys is where the hate stems from. (and the attacks) Yes we have our problems but are you going to sit there and tell me your country has a better and superior political process? And how much money over the years has the USA given all these "countries" that hate us only to have our generosity turned around and used aginst us??? What are all these countries going to do when we say piss off...solve your own problems!

QUADSWEEP


:doublefi: USA #1:doublefi:


This is all you need to know. There's no reason to even read the rest of the posts.......
 
i think every country has its fair share of problems. at my school the muslims or whatever stood up and cheered during class when they heard the bombings happened. how fucked up is that. if these mother fuckers and their fellow people hate america so much get the fuck out. these are the people who take advantage of america's genorsity. free education job opportunity etc. and if these terrorists have all this support and money to fund terrorist attacks why dont they put their time and money into trying improve their shit stain of a country. and in addition to that i think americans are getting sick and tired of babysitting the rest of the world.

-Beef
 
Quadsweep said:

:mad: Sorry but that makes me wanna whip you ass. Our country is by far the best in the world, Envy of other countrys is where the hate stems from. (and the attacks) Yes we have our problems but are you going to sit there and tell me your country has a better and superior political process? And how much money over the years has the USA given all these "countries" that hate us only to have our generosity turned around and used aginst us??? What are all these countries going to do when we say piss off...solve your own problems!

QUADSWEEP


:doublefi: USA #1:doublefi:

The truth is pretty much the opposite of everything you just said.

And for the record, the USA is the stingiest aid donor in the OECD giving only o.16% of GDP in aid. As for the money it does give most of it goes to a few strategic allies such as Israel and Egypt to support American national interests and usually for use in buying American armaments.
 
grafix-GNC said:


i hear ya faggot, but when it comes down to it, who whipped whos ass in WWII? and whos 'great leader' was fuckin psychpath by the name of Adolf Hitler? your saying were fucked up?

It was Russia which defeated Germany in WW2. Anything the Americas did was simply a side show. DDay simply sped up Germany's eventual defeat at the hands of the Russians.

As for Hitler, Germans have learned their lessons from history well. However the mentality of Germans in the 1930s and the mentality of present day Americans is terrorfyingly similar.

Sadly for the world we will have to be terrorised by the USA spreading "freedom, democracy and human rights" (i.e. pursuing it's selfish national interests under the guise of "helping" the world) before the Americans finally lose their primacy in the world and another larger country hits them on the head.

Onl;y a society as brainwashed as the USA could possibly believe that anything it does overseas has anything to do with freedom, democracy or human rights. Whoever would have thought we'd be nostalgic ofr the bad old days of the USSR. At least then there was someone to keep a check on American arrogance.
 
Burgboy said:




EXACTLY!


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I think many us citizens had empathy for the palastinians before all of these suicide bombings.....If I were israel I would bomb the living fuck out of those shit heads....I mean they use 15 yo girls to carry out thier political terror....U never see anyone higher in the palestinian org. blow themselves up for the "cause". Where is the outrage at this.....are we (the US) the only ones that see that this it definately the wrong way to get a Palestinian state.....Arafat had a chance to run his own state in the mid 90's.....it was classic....they couldn't even manage to coordinate garbage pickups, there sewage plants shut down because the dumb fucks couldn't run them....

The palestinians (PLO) make it very clear....they are not interested in a state....they are interested in the complete destruction of Israel!

The palestinians were kicked out of Jordan and looked at as a scurge....similiar to gypsies.....

I think the israelies have shown lots of restraint....I can guarantee u this....if that situation would take place in the US....it would be handled swiftly and forcefully! [/B][/QUOTE]

First of all, the Israelis basically stole the land from the Palestinians. Why was this not opposed when it was going on?
Now Japan used kamakazi pilots as young as 16 to fly in WW2, no one said anything about that. The palestinians have NO choice. Israel is backed by the U.S. and has more financial power to do whatever it wants. You think the Israelis have shown restraint? How about the father and son (age approx. 7) that were EXECUTED by Israeli soldiers? It was filmed by an Associated Press newsgroup that the Israeli's didnt know were there. Both are unarmed and against a wall and shot to death.
The only thing you will see on TV in America is ONE sided reports because all the TV stations are Jewish controlled!
I say America needs to STOP supporting Israel and stay out of things that arent our concern.
 
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