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night time protien

Basically, having a protein shake before bed gives your body something to feed on while you are sleeping. Doing this on a regular basis, you'll notice you wake up feeling stronger.
 
i've heard of also taking different types before bed ,but i din't notice a differance when i did so i just take a regular whey .....
 
Alright, when you sleep... you grow
when you have no amino acids in yur system you become catabolic
when you become catabolic when your muscles are healing/growing... it will hinder your gains
take a mix of 3 proteins before bed. THe more you take (don't exceed 60g), the longer lasting proteins you take, the less you will be catabolic. I used to wake up in the middle of the night to "refuel" as to avoid becoming catabolic

I recommend taking a whey/egg album/ milk casiente shake with either some nat pb of some flax right before you go to bed. Like breakfast and your postworkout meal, it's one of the most important meals of the day (although, to me, every meal is Damn important)
 
Benzi is correct.

protein substrats are the best. recent studies show that no one protein should be used in quantity alone. gains of lean muscle mass and fat loss have been proven to be greater using caesin (CAS) vs using whey (WP) powders.

younger guys with fast metabolisms shouldn't even use straight whey post workout, but a whey/caesin blend.
 
whey will last 2 hours in your system
Egg will last 3 hours in your system
Cassein is longer lasting than egg.

Soy will slow absorption time by 30%
Flax and Fiber will also slow down absorption time.

I use a good mix of it all
 
it's not recommed to add fatty oils to protein drinks. fats coat the lining of the stomach and the villi of the small intestine. which can allow the proteins to pass with out being properly digested.
 
I take a casienate, soy, whey shake before bed. I wake up at about 2AM to take a piss, so as I'm pissing I slam a premixed shake, then stumble back into bed. Why let your body go 8-9 hours without protein? I figured I'd take advantage of waking up for a couple minutes each night. I think it helps a lot.:)
 
FitnessFrk said:
it's not recommed to add fatty oils to protein drinks. fats coat the lining of the stomach and the villi of the small intestine. which can allow the proteins to pass with out being properly digested.
I disagree, like risky biz said, it slows down absorption and therefore is ideal for nightime protein
 
FitnessFreak this is new news to me, never heard of it hindering the absoption of protein by coating the stomach. Are you speaking of all fats or just flaxseed oil mixed w/ whey? And by the way, where did you hear this?

Sorry for questioning it, I just don't trust "rumors" too much if you know what i mean.
 
the negative effect is more prominent with protein supplements with larger chain aminos like caesin than it is in whey (high in BCAA's easily digested). using whole milk and caesin is also a big no no. fiber is the only thing proven to slow down the digestion of proteins. I would take the fats at a seperate time and to get a long lasting digestin effect use a protein substrate with fibersol.
 
riskybizz007...I'm pretty sure I have the reference on my PC at work regarding the source of the information. I will try to dig it up on monday.
 
FitnessFrk like i said i never heard about any of this, so if you can provide an abstract please do. I've been taking my night time shake before bed w/ flax for a long time.
 
I work out late which means my post-workout shake is also my pre-bedtime shake. I used to take it with flax until I learned that it was not a good idea for a post-workout shake as it slows absorbtion. Can I have one MRP serving two functions like that? Or do I have to split them up somehow?
 
"Can I have one MRP serving two functions like that? Or do I have to split them up somehow?"

bro i can't understand this question... i know you shouldn't have flax w/ postworkout shake, but everyone else has recommended taking it any other time. This is the first i heard it would hinder protein absorption. I for one am having a really hard time believing this.
 
riskybizz007 said:
"Can I have one MRP serving two functions like that? Or do I have to split them up somehow?"

bro i can't understand this question... i know you shouldn't have flax w/ postworkout shake, but everyone else has recommended taking it any other time. This is the first i heard it would hinder protein absorption. I for one am having a really hard time believing this.

I actually could be wrong about that. There is some reason not to take flax post workout, but that might very well have nothing to do with protein absorbtion. I'm not real sure. And yeah, I know it's ok to take it any other time.

My question is that since my post-workout shake is taken at around 9 - 9:30 pm, that's my last meal of the day. So it serves as my post-workout and pre bedtime shake. So I guess I'm wanting to know if I can or cannot put flax in it.

Man, these little details are getting irritating. :mad:
 
Taking any form of protein before sleep is good. Taking a blend of protein that isn't just whey is even better, seeing casein is an anit-catabolic protein, it digests slower than whey. Another way to slow down the digestion of whey is to take it with flax oil. You get a few extra calories that way too. Some powders worth trying include......

- Met Rx Protein Plus (has lots of glutamine peptide too!!)
- Cytosport Muscle Milk (FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!)
- or any whey with a tablespoon of flax
 
just a question ... do they sell caseine or egg protein like whey??
if yes ,,, what brands are out there?
 
wsup Gymtime? sorry i didn't understand the first post. Well here's my $0.02 on it. Considering the small amount of time whey is in and out of your body i wouldn't make it my before bed shake and post workout shake. Let me explain... After a workout you are most catabolic the first four hours. And after that is a gradual process back.

Considering that... you need to maintain anabolism for at least a few hours at the bare minimum IMO. I would say take a whey shake post workout for sure. And the meal after that if you want to stick to powders use eggs and/or cassein. If not you can also make it an all protein meal, just make it small. You want something that's going to cover you for the night, especially in your case since you're working out at this time.
 
I can't sleep well (if at all) with food in my stomach. Does anyone else have this problem? I've always thought sleeping with food in your stomach gives you indigestion...
 
foods that don't agree with your body or digestion process give you indigestion.

your stomach doesn't know that the brain is alseep.
 
Thats true... I guess it might be that I have problems digesting food while lying down, maybe its not natural for foods to digest foods in this position? Or maybe I'm just wierd and am the only one with this problem...
 
I can't go to sleep w/out a little something in my stomach. I'll toss and turn and eventually drink my protein shake and then i could fall asleep.
 
if you don't fell well when going to bed with a whey or casein shake in the stomach,
why don't you eat .... just real food (ie tuna, chicken ... as solid food) ?
 
Well, I meant that I am uncomfortable when I lay down soon after eating pretty much anything (protein shake or real food).
 
you could try not to eat that much before bed
but wake up in the middle of the night for something to eat/drink
 
Yup, i prepare myself 2 shakes within a 1.5 litre water bottle. Keep it next to my bed, drink half before i go to sleep, the other half if i wake up during the night.
 
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