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[drrman]

Definitely wrong.. tren gives a LOT of people gyno.

It is also not recommeneded for a first cycle. Stick with just test for now.

well mike, i said the same thing last week and ulter came back and told me that it was close to 1%, i agree with you, it gives more people gyno than many think

 

[Fluffy]

ok thanks a lot

 

[mikefear]

Just going from anecdotal evidence and the amount of people on here who report gyno after using tren... real world statistics may be different.. I'd say less than 1/10% of people who use AAS come on EF, so I'm sure the majority don't get it.. but it's not an impossibility.

 

[Fluffy]

the more I read I see that everyone says "do not use deca(or any other gear?) ALONE".

But could someone explain to me WHY not?

 

[drrman]

the more I read I see that everyone says "do not use deca(or any other gear?) ALONE".

But could someone explain to me WHY not?

because deca will shut you down extremely hard and can often cause "deca dick" meaning you can't get a normal erection while you are using it and some time afterwards. general rule always run as much test in a cycle as you run deca

 

[Fluffy]

when you say " shut you down", what do you mean?... thanks

 

[drrman]

when you say " shut you down", what do you mean?... thanks

i mean your body shuts down its production of natural testosterone, so when you come off your body isn't producing ANY test and you ahve no test in your system....so you "crash" hence that is why you run PCT

 

[dsh89]

Yup always keep it simple first time. Running 500mg/week Test E or Cyp will yeild a good 20 lbs gain in 10 weeks. Keep your diet and training in check, run an AI during the cycle, and HCG/Clomid or Nolva afterwards, and you will be pleased with the results.