New too this plz help

[Mdoyle1990]

A little about myself .. I'm 21 and 5'10 135lbs I'm curently taking muscle juice protein 18oz of milk with 4 scoops of the protein after my workout . also taking p6 and kre-alk creatine 2 in the morning of both and 2 of both pre workout I'm just wondering if you think this is a good set of stuff to get bigger mainly looking for big arms / upper body and abs

 

[stevesmi]

workout 4-5X per week and eat real food.

protein shakes are not gonna build muscle sorry. REAL FOOD bro.

 

[Mdoyle1990]

I work out eveyday cept sat and sun.. Mainly taking protein just to gain fat so it can turn to muscle.. But as for the taking creatine and p6 do you think that's a good idea?

 

[coreygb]

I work out eveyday cept sat and sun.. Mainly taking protein just to gain fat so it can turn to muscle.. But as for the taking creatine and p6 do you think that's a good idea?

I recommend doing some more research on how the weight training and the human body works. Fat doesn't turn into muscle. Muscle doesn't turn into fat. They are two seperate things. As for the original question, I drink whey twice a day -- once post-workout and once as part of my breakfast. Creatine is also a nice thing to have around, you'll just want to make sure youre drinking enough water. I don't know what P6 is, but I can only assume it's a waste of money and ineffective.

Most people will agree that the only supplements you need are whey, creatine, and a multivitamin. But, don't worry so much about supplelements. That's the least important part of training, really. As previously said, save your money for better food.

 

[packers6211]

I agree with the above eat solid whole foods, with lean meats. Make sure your getting at least 1 gram of protein per lb of body weight. You will get your goal in protein by whole foods if your diet is right, but adding a protein shake will also help. Try to use those for post workout days that your not going to be able to eat with in a reasonable amount of time from training. Myofusion is an awesome protein easily mixes and taste good. Orbitnutrition.com has it for a great price. Good luck bro.

A little about myself .. I'm 21 and 5'10 135lbs I'm curently taking muscle juice protein 18oz of milk with 4 scoops of the protein after my workout . also taking p6 and kre-alk creatine 2 in the morning of both and 2 of both pre workout I'm just wondering if you think this is a good set of stuff to get bigger mainly looking for big arms / upper body and abs

 

[kdc1023]

I agree with all the information listed above pretty much everything i would of said. One thing i might add because your kind of skinny is to try to spend as little time in the gym as possible meaning no longer than 1 hour of actually weight lifting. Also decreasing alot of your compound lifts to 6-8 rep range at a moderately heavyweight will help. Also training legs all out helps overall growth of the body because it increases natural HGH levels. It takes alot of discipline to not go to the gym when your mind is telling you that you want to but rest is gunna help you build muscle and gain the weight your looking for.

 

[Power Chews]

Everyones bodies are going to respond slightly different to lifting and diet.

Personally I like to hit the gym six days a week, but others will tell you four to five tops.

Take the time to research different workout routines and diet plans on EF.

Don't forget working out is like anything else, what you put in is what you get out!!
Good luck.

 

[shibs]

I have an idea.

Post up your workout for us here bro, and we will critique it and tell you what you need to change. Also, try to give us the best layout of your diet plan as possible. This will be THE best possible thing for you right now.

 

[stevesmi]

small amount of creatine on workout days .. i dont take anything else. no whey, no casein.. i eat real food

 

[Mdoyle1990]

I switch it up daily one day I'll do bench , pushups, squat, crunches, the next day I'll do skull crushes , curls , legs, more crunches and pushups and just go back and forth between those .. I take sat and Sunday off .. My diet isn't that great I eat All day long but nothing crazy heathy I hate most fruit and veggi but love steak ... Also p6 is a t-booster .. And why do I take creatine in the mornings? It's always confused me cuz I don't workout till after work at 6 that night

 

[ramnares]

I switch it up daily one day I'll do bench , pushups, squat, crunches, the next day I'll do skull crushes , curls , legs, more crunches and pushups and just go back and forth between those .. I take sat and Sunday off .. My diet isn't that great I eat All day long but nothing crazy heathy I hate most fruit and veggi but love steak ... Also p6 is a t-booster .. And why do I take creatine in the mornings? It's always confused me cuz I don't workout till after work at 6 that night

Well you've pretty much identified your own problem there. You don't have a routine that's working for you, and since you're a beginner it's important that you get your fundamentals right. A lot of the advice given above is spot on. You're not working hard enough to justify taking creatine or testosterone boosters. Also, the majority of your protein intake is coming from supplements and not actual food (also noted by posters above).

You should definitely read Starting Strength if you're serious about making gains. Also, the beginner 5X5 program would be ideal for you. I know you said you want a big upper body and abs but I hope you realize that upper body strength will only be sustainable if you also work your lower body as well.

 

[Mdoyle1990]

Thanks alot that helped alot .. I'm guessing that will tell me exactly what and how to workout for good gains?

 

[Mdoyle1990]

Where can I find starting strength to read ? And the 5x5 program. ?

 

[shibs]

Where can I find starting strength to read ? And the 5x5 program. ?

Let me google that for you

jp lol but yeah do this program definitely, it will give you a great foundation. and don't skimp on the squats and deadlifts, push them as much as you're pushing your bench.

 

[shibs]

and otc test boosters aren't going to do much for you at your age and experience level. I'd take that money and go buy some whole milk

 

[ramnares]

Look at your messages bro, sent you a summary of Rippetoe's starting strength and a link explaining 5X5...

 

[Mdoyle1990]

Cool thanks and yes I know I don't know much about this but you gotta start somewhere

 

[CoBra666]

Cool thanks and yes I know I don't know much about this but you gotta start somewhere

true dat. read, ask, and you will learn. the world especially tv is full of alot of shit. there be some damn smart people on here. rock that rippetoe 5x5 for a while, then when you got a good solid base in terms of a body and knowledge move upto a more advanced 5x5. work on your diet. dial in your diet. 40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% good! fats is a good average. and you will make damn good gains with time and effort