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New Diet: Please Read... thoughts?

NJstacked

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Ok... My deal is I have been "bulking since end of summer" (not sticking to the cleanest diet) I always lift hard .... just the foods have not been the best choices... it is all cyclical happens every year... I have been in this game for a while and know which aspects of dieting work best for me... My stats... 5'10 225 ... I have a 34" waist..... after dieting a 33" .... So here is my new diet..... I will post first then answe all questions... I have created Diets in the past on here... My TEMPTS DIET was a huge success and everything is usually based off of that... I believe in dieting hard/cheating/mixing ratios up..... Here is my newly constructed DIET:

DAY 1-5 (Just an Example)

Meal 1- 3 Eggs, 3 stips of Bacon, 1 slice of Cheese
Meal 2- Protein Shake + 1 serving Almonds
Meal 3- Grilled Chix Caesar Salad (full fat dressing)
Meal 4- Protein Shake + Almonds
Meal 5- (Pre Workout) 1 or 2 Apples or 1 Gatorade 45 mins before
Meal 6- Steak, Salad with Olive Oil and Vinegar
Snack- 1 scoop Natty Peanut Butter

Day 6- Carb Up (use your imagination) Just make sure you do not take in tons of saturated fat.... Stick to multiple carb sources and some protein... I love Fat Free Muffins for breakfast or bagles, Subway for lunch, Sushi dinner, usually I go out so some drinks that night

Day 7- Complete Keto NO CARBS AT ALL.... Lots of Fat 2 grams of fat to 1 gram of Protein...


THOUGHTS???
 
A little variation of a CKD? LOoks pretty much like it. CKD's do indeed work very well for those who are able.

I personally do better on a TKD, usually use this approach pre contest for instance.
 
Lifterforlife said:
A little variation of a CKD? LOoks pretty much like it. CKD's do indeed work very well for those who are able.

I personally do better on a TKD, usually use this approach pre contest for instance.

NO.. I would say more like a TKD... because the Pre Work Out Carbs(Gatorade/Apple) ...but the 1 day carb up is not on a TKD... How is your TKD setup example... Peace...-Stacked
 
NJstacked said:
NO.. I would say more like a TKD... because the Pre Work Out Carbs(Gatorade/Apple) ...but the 1 day carb up is not on a TKD... How is your TKD setup example... Peace...-Stacked

I realize the one day carb up is not on a TKD, is why I saw it more as a variant of a CKD. The apple pre workout with the gatorade just did not seem like carbs enough to keep up with a heavy training session, albeit less sets. I believe in going heavy right up to the end, in my opinion spares lbm. Reduction of sets of course is in order, and do not take sets to complete failure.

I work out in the morning, so I stack my carb intake around workout. I target "X" amount of carbs depending on where I am at in bf. I feel this gives me some energy to get through my workout, and some needed carbs for after.

I have gone the CKD route totally, I do not do well with it. My workouts suffer big time, even after ketosis. I also have a hard time with the carb up day.
 
Regardless of cleanness/macro goals, you might want to change your pre-/post-workout meals a bit.

Pre-workout, you need plenty of carbs, preferably low-GI so you have consistent energy rather than a sugar rush then crash. I'd recommend replacing the gatorade with a grain of some sort to go along with the apple and adding a bit of protein (a small protein shake would be fine).

Some sort of post-workout shake/meal 30-60 minutes before meal 6 with glucose-based carbs (dextrose, oats, rice cakes, etc.) and a scoop of whey would also be a good idea. Right now, you have pretty much no carbs to refill depleted muscle glycogen after your workout until the pre-workout shake the next day.
 
Good Responses... I was not sure if I should add to many more carbs but after thinking about it.... I will probably bump it up to 75 grams... (Apple Pre Workout... Gatorade During Workout... Dextrose after workout) Do you think that will be enough carbs? Also... if I have these other carbs should I lower the fat in the other meals...? What do you guys think? A sample diet LIFTERFORLIFE would be helpful... Now my diet is looking more and more like ~SC~ Diet.... which is not a bad thing.
 
The nutrient partitioning environment created by a lifting session is so favorable that you really shouldn't worry much about having too many grams of carbs at this time; if anything, 75 seems a bit low. Making sure you have enough carbs and protein around your workout should be a top priority. Adjust your fat intake in other meals downward as necessary to accomodate adequate nutrition around the workout if you want to keep total calories the same.
 
i would love to help but IMHO CKD or Atkins is the worst dieting approach in the world....just my opinion, so I can't help you.......although I can say, lose the fruits post workout, they do nothing to speed recovery of muscle glycogen. Nix the ceasar dressing jun and use olive oil, and 1tb of PB before bed does what? Zilch....you need some casein.......
 
Agreed pretty much with cynical. A sample diet I would use, as mentioned I do my workout in the morning. A sample of how I do it after dropping carbs down to the tkd point...So, it would be as follows....

Meal 1 which is pre workout, I will have oats and protein
Train
Meal 2 pwo I will have either dex/prot tapering(last thing I change) as I lose fat or malto/prot "meal" like Mass maker(again tapering last thing)
Meal 3 ppwo I will have my other carb meal, usually a high fiber carb like beans and 6-8 oz. meat and veggies
Meal 4 will be meat/2 cups fibrous veggies/1 oz. walnuts
Meal 5 will be meat/fibrous veggies/4 fish oil
Meal 6 will be meat/fibrous veggies/5 fish oil
Meal 7 before bed will be 6 eggwhites/cup of omlette veggies/few almonds
 
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